Opinion Changes for 2024

[OldDogFan]

I'm pretty on 2sm this Afternoon the boyz stated that Ciraldo said the broom is going thru the joint and some signings are coming who are playing finals atm

David I'm sure the crew doesn't find you pretty no matter what radio station you were on!!!

 

[Teddybear]

I think we need to move the fox on, just like hopaote we screwed up with him as he was starting to regress and resigned him , no pace, no defence but still a good pass.
The fox is nearly there

 

[bradtalo]

I'd like to see

1 Crichton
2 JAC
3 Burton
4 Skelton
5 Kiraz
6 Oloapu
7 Taaffe
8 Jordan McLean
9 Mahoney
10 SST
11 Kikau
12 Preston
13 Edwards

 

[1967]

I think we need to move the fox on, just like hopaote we screwed up with him as he was starting to regress and resigned him , no pace, no defence but still a good pass.
The fox is nearly there

I have no doubt if they move JAC back to the left and put players beside him that can set him up, he’d score well over 20 try’s for us next season … need the coach and players playing to his strengths and covering his weaknesses, like Bellamy does with all his players …

 

[1967]

I'm pretty on 2sm this Afternoon the boyz stated that Ciraldo said the broom is going thru the joint and some signings are coming who are playing finals atm

Hasn’t Crichton & Taaffe already been confirmed, aren’t they playing finals … what didn’t we already know here ??

 

[D- voice]

I have no doubt if they move JAC back to the left and put players beside him that can set him up, he’d score well over 20 try’s for us next season … need the coach and players playing to his strengths and covering his weaknesses, like Bellamy does with all his players …

The problem is much bigger the only JAC...
Winning starts by great defence and defence is our major concern therefore
* Crichton must play in the centres we also need Xerri to be ready in preseason to partner him,
* We need a hard tackling forward that doesn't mind doing the dirty work of the team ,
* Taaffe should be 1st choice at fullback, he'll add an extra dimension to the attack,
* It would've been great if we had signed Haas but it isn't the end of the world that we didn't,
* At least 2 BIG PROPS are needed, they don't need to be of the same calibre as Haas,
If no one is available I'll take a gamble on Greig from Parra and Lees the UK

 

[1967]

The problem is much bigger the only JAC...
Winning starts by great defence and defence is our major concern therefore
* Crichton must play in the centres we also need Xerri to be ready in preseason to partner him,
* We need a hard tackling forward that doesn't mind doing the dirty work of the team ,
* Taaffe should be 1st choice at fullback, he'll add an extra dimension to the attack,
* It would've been great if we had signed Haas but it isn't the end of the world that we didn't,
* At least 2 BIG PROPS are needed, they don't need to be of the same calibre as Haas,
If no one is available I'll take a gamble on Greig from Parra and Lees the UK

Agree mate … you’re preaching to the choir … [emoji56]

 

[Roger the alien]

The problem is much bigger the only JAC...
Winning starts by great defence and defence is our major concern therefore
* Crichton must play in the centres we also need Xerri to be ready in preseason to partner him,
* We need a hard tackling forward that doesn't mind doing the dirty work of the team ,
* Taaffe should be 1st choice at fullback, he'll add an extra dimension to the attack,
* It would've been great if we had signed Haas but it isn't the end of the world that we didn't,
* At least 2 BIG PROPS are needed, they don't need to be of the same calibre as Haas,
If no one is available I'll take a gamble on Greig from Parra and Lees the UK

I'd bring in Darryn Schonig and Matty Lees.
Schonig is at least a big body prop who runs hard and plays aggressive, I know it's only cup but he's had a pretty good year, made over 100m every week and played 50-60 minutes a game.
Lees is a bit under sized like Thommo so he would probably be better suited to 13 in the nrl but he also plays with aggression and high energy, something our forwards could use right now.

 

[top-dog]

Nothing will change until every player is happy and are all on the same page together. And want to be at the club.

 

[wendog33]

Need more assistance from our back 5 in our sets if our pack is still this shit next year

1. Critta
2. Kiraz
3. Skelton
4. Xerri
5. Fox

Their main job is to get our sets rolling…

Skelton could become the next Marzhew

He has to be in there for sets and x factor and needs to be developed to handle that job. If his training attitude isn't right, give him some bloody encouragement and confidence that he has a future in the team. When given the chance he has excelled in a badly performing team.

 

[wendog33]

Wilson has something most of the team doesn’t have. He has heart, tries hard and is for the most part safe. He is the perfect depth player but isn’t a week in week out NRL level player.

I don’t see much X factor in Wilson either. Also his lack of natural instincts, footy IQ are a mystery to to me. For someone that has clearly played the game his whole life. He either doesn’t know certain rules or just doesn’t think in the moment. Simple things like stretching a foot to put a foot in the in goal to get a 7 tackle set. Or running from dummy half when a marker is clearly not square. He runs along way sideways so they don’t tackle him. Rather than running straight at them to get a penalty. (That being said if got the penalty Burton most likely wouldn’t find touch with kick.)

Or the ref penalise the offside opposition either.

 

[D- voice]

I'd bring in Darryn Schonig and Matty Lees.
Schonig is at least a big body prop who runs hard and plays aggressive, I know it's only cup but he's had a pretty good year, made over 100m every week and played 50-60 minutes a game.
Lees is a bit under sized like Thommo so he would probably be better suited to 13 in the nrl but he also plays with aggression and high energy, something our forwards could use right now.

Schonig is contracted to us but plays for our feeder club Clydesdale,
Aggression is the reason I want Lees at lock, he reminds me of Bupa.

 

[wendog33]

Surely there are big imposing frontrowers in Cup, RM, all our feeder areas incl Canterbury NZ, PNG, Fiji who just can run the ball tough and tackle. Just ask a simple gameplan of them. Other clubs find them. Even Manly ship em in from Blacktown.

 

[red-dog]

We could sign Cleary, Munster and Haas and after 10 months with us they'll look like reserve graders.

The talent is there. The attitude isn't. There is an obvious disconnect between players and management. Who's fault it is etc we don't know for sure, but until that is resolved we won't see improvement regardless of who we sign or play.

What confuses me is our recruitment policy. We are signing or re-signing guys who we end up releasing after half a year cause of attitude problems, so why sign them in the first place? I think it's trial and error at the moment really until it gets to the overall club mentality that Gus wants it to be at. Until then, there's going to be plenty of growing pain.

The question then becomes is Ciraldo the right man for this type of job. It's a big ask for a rookie coach to be part of the rebuild of one of the biggest clubs in the league that has been under performing for a decade.

 

[wendog33]

We could sign Cleary, Munster and Haas and after 10 months with us they'll look like reserve graders.

The talent is there. The attitude isn't. There is an obvious disconnect between players and management. Who's fault it is etc we don't know for sure, but until that is resolved we won't see improvement regardless of who we sign or play.

What confuses me is our recruitment policy. We are signing or re-signing guys who we end up releasing after half a year cause of attitude problems, so why sign them in the first place? I think it's trial and error at the moment really until it gets to the overall club mentality that Gus wants it to be at. Until then, there's going to be plenty of growing pain.

The question then becomes is Ciraldo the right man for this type of job. It's a big ask for a rookie coach to be part of the rebuild of one of the biggest clubs in the league that has been under performing for a decade.

Responsibility must fall on the coach as well when a playing group produce such shocking efforts in defence and execution that we have seen so far.

Ciraldo's methods must be included the seasons review.

No matter how much we bag the players, the coach hasn't coached effectively either.

 

[Grunthos]

What would you like to see in the offseason and our squad for 2024?

I would like to see;

- Crichton and Burton as centres
- Taaffe FB
- Skelton on wing
- Hooker on the bench (Mahoney cannot play 80)
- Purchase a 5/8
- Purchase 3 props
- Employ a Jiu-Jitsu coach (atleast 4th degree)
- Bring in a specialist coach to work with our spine players

Gus also needs to scale back on some of his other media commitments

And a quality sniper to take out the opposition's "X" factor...
(EVERY team seems to have one except us so it's about time we evened things up!)

 

[red-dog]

Responsibility must fall on the coach as well when a playing group produce such shocking efforts in defence and execution that we have seen so far.

Ciraldo's methods must be included the seasons review.

No matter how much we bag the players, the coach hasn't coached effectively either.

Agreed. I said something similar in another post that essentially if we look at the players individually, none of them have improved after Ciraldo and I would argue most of them have regressed. End of the day rugby league is a relatively simple sport tactic wise (especially when compared to other sports like football, NFL).

If you look at the most successful sides in NRL history, the thing they've always had in common is getting the most out of the individual player. Especially the Storm where average players would go there and become rep players, everyone seemed to play their best footy in Melbourne. Storm never played the most expansive style of football, but they always got the most out of the individual. Right now that's where we are failing.

I am not going to pretend to know more than a first grade coach, or have some magical idea to fix it. But I think we can all observe that on an individual player level, no one is playing their best football right now. When it's just one player, you can chalk it down to bad attitude of just him. But when it's an entire squad, there is a more systemic issue. What is the issue? How to fix it? We won't know but as fans we have every right to call it out.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Responsibility must fall on the coach as well when a playing group produce such shocking efforts in defence and execution that we have seen so far.

Ciraldo's methods must be included the seasons review.

No matter how much we bag the players, the coach hasn't coached effectively either.

You can't change whats wrong with a club/place until you understand why things are the way they are, put in some of the changes you want and see how people respond. People are adverse to change, so then you get those people who push back and try and poison the well. I have faith that Gus will keep turning over the squad until they get the guys who are willing to put the work in. The core of the squad is there besides a couple of props.

It is now just about getting all the work done in the preseason to ensure the defence is right. Attack will come. But if you don't need to score as much that will keep us in plenty of games.

 

[speedy2460]

There appears to some sort of disconnect in the club. Players are not happy, management are not happy.
There needs to be some sort of conciliation between the two groups.
Jack Gibson once said that "Winning starts in the front office"

 

[D0GMATIC]

Agreed and I think we already have our ideal 14 in Flannagan who can cover hooker (to give Reed a rest) / half (injury / HIA). Also like someone's earlier suggestion of trying Xerri in the 2nd row with Preston at 13. Xerri potentially could be like a Nikora sort of player. Also if a back goes down then we can move our forwards around and put Xerri out in the backs.

I think Salmon would be an option for 14 as well