Baz has had 1 off season and 5 games.
Pay had 3 years.
Pay never had our team fit, ever. Even Tolman looks fitter and quicker to play the ball now in a new Club.
Trent said he would have our team fit and although they arent as fit as Storm/Roosters etc, I think he did a pretty good job in the short time frame he had. Napa's a write off and Jackson + Hopa's on the decline especially with the pace of the game now.
Storm/Roosters have been fit for years, is part of their system/culture. Our culture was who gives a fuck and I say that not because I know what happens at the Club, but because Ive watched the games the last 3 years.
Also now the rules have changed.
I cant remeber 1 gun player recruited by Pay. It is fact he didnt have funds to buy star quality.
Which players improved under Pay?
I believe it would have been a massive risk /gamble having Pay identify what talent he needed to buy in to build a team especially now with the rule changes.
You asked why move Pay on. I just dont believe he had a modern day footy brain.
This isnt to bag Pay.
All Im saying is our fortunes wont turn around in a short period of time from where we've come from.
Nasheed here,
Not sure we have met before, but I’m Nasheed (as I said).
For me, Pay had two faults.
Signing duds like Lichaa to 2 year deals and Crichton to 3. Both could have been 1 year deals. They weren’t wanted. Crichton could easily be 2, not 3. Low standard cut winger, and unwanted hooker who couldn’t score a deal. If signed at all.
Second was the fitness thang.
I have some sympathy for him. The NRL changed the rules under his feet.
but at the same time he should have identified that quickly and flog the players the way i flogged myself when the fappening stuff was released a few years back.
if you take that aside, he did remarkably well on a cap that was half of other teams on back ended deals. Amazingly.
Iam not sure, and never will be sure if he deserved a deal extension or not. At the end of the day, if the team slides backward, and u don’t have street cred, how can you expect a renewal?
He may have been a good coach with his own team, I’ll never know.
I hope he gets another gig before he returns to us as a defensive coach (as per the oil).
