Canterbury Bulldogs stress club won't bust salary cap

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Canterbury Bulldogs stress club won't bust salary cap and claim Aaron Woods, Kieran Foran yet to sign

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Canterbury are poised to secure the services of Wests Tigers skipper Aaron Woods and New Zealand Warriors playmaker Kieran Foran, although neither have signed a contract as yet

The addition of the marquee men to an already impressive roster has raised questions about how they can fit everyone in without busting the cap.

While Josh Reynolds, Michael Lichaa and Will Hopoate are off contract, their departures alone are unlikely to free up enough space to squeeze in the likely newcomers.

Salary cap auditor Richard Gardham wrote to club chief executives during the week, warning them that the NRL wouldn't be registering contracts unless they are under the indicative salary cap figure of $9.14 million for next year.

Clubs believe the real figure is effectively about $8.7 million for a 30-man squad, raising concerns that most have overestimated for next season and can't comply. The players' union is expected to table a counter to the NRL's initial offer in coming weeks.

Castle provided assurances the club would be within the required spending limits.

"The current uncertainty around the salary cap for 2018 makes the current contracting process more challenging," Castle said.

"The salary cap is hugely important to the competition. The Bulldogs will always ensure that any decisions we are making in relation to recruitment will result in us being in a salary cap-compliant position."

Castle's comments came on the back of Bulldogs coach Des Hasler stressing Woods, who was pictured having coffee with Bulldogs players during the week before the two sides clash on Sunday, and Warriors' five-eighth Foran weren't signed, sealed and delivered.

"I think it's important we get the facts right rather than all the speculation," Hasler said. "No contracts have been signed. There is no agreement with those players. I'm sorry to say they haven't signed here and there's no contracts.

"There have been some discussions with their management. So far [those talks] have been fairly positive. There's no contracts signed [though]."

Hasler also joked the Bulldogs' main attraction for Woods and Foran would be "the colours of us, blue and white" and said speculating about other potential destinations for the Australian prop – such as Newcastle – was how "we create fake news".

But there will be some serious number crunching inside Bulldogs HQ when Woods and Foran pen deals and Hasler was in no mood to ponder how many players he would need to let go in the salary cap squeeze.

"That's an intuitive question," Hasler said. "At this point in time, I think it's counter-intuitive, counterproductive that line of thinking and that line of questioning because at the moment there is no agreement in place. Why go to that space?

"It's all speculation. It just goes round and round."

But Hasler was a little more forthcoming on the on-field threat posed by the Tigers, who have been beaten down and dragged through the gutter off the field in the first two months of the season.

Hasler reasoned the Tigers always trouble the Bulldogs, who have won nine of their past 11 clashes against the joint venture. But Hasler is still expecting "the unknown" on Sunday.

"I think Ivan [Cleary] is well aware [how big his job is], but [the Tigers] have a really experienced person and a very level-headed person and a very good person, which is what you need going forward," Hasler said.

"They are a very classy outfit. They've got some very classy players. Young [Luke] Brooks is back and they've really tested players throughout the year so it won't be easy."
 

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Obviously he's not going to come out and say they signed the day before a game. Theres still a cooling off period and the club can't confirm anything until thats done anyway.

Also the NRL shouldn't be concerned, Raelene wouldn't risk upsetting the refugees by going over the cap which would result in losing points.
 

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ITS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING DISGRACE THAT CLUBS STILL DONT KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE SALARY CAP FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE ARE ALREADY 1/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH THIS SEASON!!!!!!

Get your shit together NRL. How fucking hard is it to do your job?
 

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ITS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING DISGRACE THAT CLUBS STILL DONT KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE SALARY CAP FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE ARE ALREADY 1/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH THIS SEASON!!!!!!

Get your shit together NRL. How fucking hard is it to do your job?
It's not the NRL it's the players union. The NRL have published their salary cap a couple of weeks ago but are giving the union time to argue the toss over the numbers. If they didn't do that then the union would take them to court and it would never be resolved.
 

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ITS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING DISGRACE THAT CLUBS STILL DONT KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE SALARY CAP FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE ARE ALREADY 1/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH THIS SEASON!!!!!!

Get your shit together NRL. How fucking hard is it to do your job?
I despise "CAPS" but in this instance sir, it has been very well used, I'll excuse this use ;)

My exact sentiments though, what in the world are the NRL doing, unprofessionalism 101.
 

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What disgusts me is how they don't look into the Sydney roosters or broncos. It's an obvious fucking joke.

It's not hard to see whose cheating. If they choose to stay for xyz club for 250k but other offers for said player are for 750k, it's quite fucking obvious what's going on. If the nrl are serious on whose cheating the cap, they'd monitor all that stuff.

It's fucking atrocious that we have to put up with all this bullshit whereas the broncos and roosters have been getting away with it for years.
 

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Some reporters have no clue
Lichaa
Reynolds
Hoppa
Stanley
Phillips
Can't remember who else is off contract,
There's a mill there and another mill for the cap increase that's 2 mill we have.
How the fuck are we going over?
 

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I'm starting to think that this is a targeted attempt by some parties to stop these signings etc while their would be a cooling off period....if signed. Trying to get them to backflip?
 

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Dear John Grant,

FUCK OFF

Regards,

Every NRL CEO and fan.

......

This useless **** was on his last chance previously when he completely screwed the cap idea, and it seems despite his pleas and ass kissing, the issue is STILL not resolved.

Get rid of the useless bastard, and put someone in his place who will actually DO something for the betterment of the clubs, not himself.
 

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Some reporters have no clue
Lichaa
Reynolds
Hoppa
Stanley
Phillips
Can't remember who else is off contract,
There's a mill there and another mill for the cap increase that's 2 mill we have.
How the fuck are we going over?
Nothing else needs to be said.
 

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Dear John Grant,

FUCK OFF

Regards,

Every NRL CEO and fan.

......

This useless **** was on his last chance previously when he completely screwed the cap idea, and it seems despite his pleas and ass kissing, the issue is STILL not resolved.

Get rid of the useless bastard, and put someone in his place who will actually DO something for the betterment of the clubs, not himself.
What part of the NRL have already released the cap for 2018 are you having the most trouble with? If you are unhappy talk to the players union. They're the ones holding it up and have been for weeks.
 

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Some reporters have no clue
Lichaa
Reynolds
Hoppa
Stanley
Phillips
Can't remember who else is off contract,
There's a mill there and another mill for the cap increase that's 2 mill we have.
How the fuck are we going over?
Well said boxer. That is comfortably over $1.2mill with those players alone. And if you consider that Eastwood is also potentially being shopped around, that would free up at least another $400k I'd say. I actually have sneaky suspicion that we might have one more signing up our sleaves. That would get everyone talking!
 

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Some reporters have no clue
Lichaa
Reynolds
Hoppa
Stanley
Phillips
Can't remember who else is off contract,
There's a mill there and another mill for the cap increase that's 2 mill we have.
How the fuck are we going over?
2.1 increase.
Total of 3.1
 

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We should keep Hopoate for depth. IMO he could be a gun centre.
 

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We should keep Hopoate for depth. IMO he could be a gun centre.
He would be a good replacement for Morris but if he isn't playing Sundy then he aint worth a penny.
 

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You do realise that the cap is going from a 25 man squad to a 30 man squad and thus per capita is actually decreasing? There isn't all this extra money going to be available that people think there will be.....
While your right the number of players included is increasing, but two weeks ago we all thought the cap would be 8.4 mil, now its a minimum of 9.14 mil. Thats an extra 700k to spend regardless of how the cap is to be divied up.
 

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What part of the NRL have already released the cap for 2018 are you having the most trouble with? If you are unhappy talk to the players union. They're the ones holding it up and have been for weeks.
Thay havnt clarified it as this amount, they have simply informed clubs that it could be as much as this. There is no exact figure as of yet. It could even end up being more.
 

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It's not the NRL it's the players union. The NRL have published their salary cap a couple of weeks ago but are giving the union time to argue the toss over the numbers. If they didn't do that then the union would take them to court and it would never be resolved.
It takes two to tango mate. Theyre both at fault. This tv deal was signed off on more then one year ago, so its not as if they didnt have time to get this shit sorted before now!!!
Whoevers fault it is, they need to sort it right fucking now. This is unacceptable at this level of professional sport!!!!
 

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It's not the NRL it's the players union. The NRL have published their salary cap a couple of weeks ago but are giving the union time to argue the toss over the numbers. If they didn't do that then the union would take them to court and it would never be resolved.
I wonder if it goes before the court if the clubs can then target players at all costs and not worry about breaching the salary cap.
If they don't know what the cap is , clubs still have to look at acquiring players as part of their business.
 
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