Bulldogs can't bring in stars for three years: CEO

[bert]

I see this rebuilding faze and cap issues as a blessing. Sure we will lose a few known players over the next few years as back ended contracts end and certain players become expendable but it also high lights a new path way into first grade for all the young and talented players willing to sign on with the bulldogs.

Don’t believe everything you hear from Head Office necessarily, third party deals can work wonders

 

[dogluva]

Todd Carney would be available on minimum wage at his age and situation ... i also think he still has a lot to offer over the next year or two

Two NRL clubs Cronulla (who sacked him) and Souths have closed the door on him in relation to playing for their feeder clubs Newtown and North Sydney respectively. I really don't think any club would consider him but I guess we shall see one way or the other within the next month for this season. Don't know which clubs have room in their 30 man squads...

 

[coach]

Don’t believe everything you hear from Head Office necessarily, third party deals can work wonders

Problem is 3rd party payments arnt garuteed, hence why players want large amounts paid by the club and the rest made up of tpa's
You will never see a quality player sign a 100-200k contract and have 2 3 -400k made up in tpa's

 

[doggieaaron]

For 2020 we should go hard for Cameron munster

 

[Big M]

Are the dogs thinking get rid of one to keep two??

If one big contracted player leaves, it means that money can be split between the Morris's. I think there is some hope and I'm sure they have been told they can stay on the proviso the dogs can offload one player.

Or, the other option is Nu Brown and Lichaa leave and that money to the Morris's. It's making sense this is the preferred option. Pay hasn't played Nu Brown and dropped Lichaa to hopefully move them on. And this is why Holland on a contract of approx. $150k is being tested at hooker.

Sure, it's been said directly no one is being shopped around but the likes of Nu Brown and Lichaa would not want to stay in ISP.

The horse hasn't bolted yet on the Morris twins I don't think.

 

[Big M]

Are the dogs thinking get rid of one to keep two??

If one big contracted player leaves, it means that money can be split between the Morris's. I think there is some hope and I'm sure they have been told they can stay on the proviso the dogs can offload one player.

Or, the other option is Nu Brown and Lichaa leave and that money to the Morris's. It's making sense this is the preferred option. Pay hasn't played Nu Brown and dropped Lichaa to hopefully move them on. And this is why Holland on a contract of approx. $150k is being tested at hooker.

Sure, it's been said directly no one is being shopped around but the likes of Nu Brown and Lichaa would not want to stay in ISP.

The horse hasn't bolted yet on the Morris twins I don't think.

Twins are gone ,,,believe that as gospel

 

[Big M]

Our playing group should be thankful that they are earning big bucks plying a game and not working in a factory some where or digging holes trying to earn a living on minimum wage.

Yeh those who dig holes and work in a factory etc don’t risk serious injury every time they go to work....oh and how hard would you work knowing you were expected to sweat bullets,vomit and experience excruciating pain before you put your job credentials on show? Google what a professional sports person does first before you hit ur warrior keyboard

 

[Vlasnik]

Yeh those who dig holes and work in a factory etc don’t risk serious injury every time they go to work....oh and how hard would you work knowing you were expected to sweat bullets,vomit and experience excruciating pain before you put your job credentials on show? Google what a professional sports person does first before you hit ur warrior keyboard

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.a...rch/statistics/fatalities/fatality-statistics

Statistics and Research
3,414 workers have died from 2003 to 2016

39% of worker fatalities were due to a vehicle collision (2003 to 2016)

44 workers who died in 2016 worked in the agriculture, forestry and fishing industry

These were normal hard working family people working for a wage trying to put food on the table for their families. Families that they will never ever see again. Families that buy merchandise and memberships, that buy tickets to sit in cold and wet stadiums to watch their favorite teams compete, etc, etc........ They weren't average rugby league players with BIG MONEY CONTRACTS getting payed to play a game. So if having an opinion and living in the real world makes me a keyboard warrior, SO BE IT!!!!

 

[Headmix]

Margie McDonald & Michael Chammas
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Thu 17 May 2018, 06:01 PM
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Canterbury will only be salary cap compliant next year if they fill their five remaining positions with players on the minimum wage.

Chief executive Andrew Hill admits it could be three years before the club has "clear space" to sign high-profile players.

At a media briefing before their fan forum on Thursday night, the Bulldogs revealed they:

• Were salary cap compliant for 2018;
• Had 7-10 players on back-ended deals throughout 2019 and 2020;
• Had half a dozen players with ratchet clauses;
• Had 25 of 30 spots filled for next season with more than $500,000 to spend;
• Were not actively shopping players around but would be open to discussions;
• Were paying for five players at other clubs.

The Bulldogs will be letting three international players go at the end of the year – Greg Eastwood, Brett and Josh Morris – but that won't be the end of the pain.

Hill rejected speculation that the club was way over its cap for 2018 and would have to shed players.

"We are cap compliant for 2018 – not significantly under it - but we are under it," Hill said.

"We are not actively selling any player or shopping them around to be salary cap compliant. We will be compliant for 2019.

"And we're starting to embark on 2020. We will have clear space by 2021."

Eastwood and the Morris twins, who are off contract this year, release $2.2 million but that money has already been largely taken up by back-ended deals and ratchet clauses for players contracted to the club in 2019.

For 2019, even though the NRL cap rises from $9.4 million to $9.6m for the top 30 squad, the Bulldogs have "between seven and 10 players" on back-ended deals.

There are also "half a dozen" players with ratchet clauses in their contracts where their pay increases each year as the cap goes up. Hill would not divulge which players for privacy reasons.

"At the time the club signed some of these deals they obviously were working on the cap being north of $10 million," Hill said, not naming the previous administrators involved headlined by former chairman Ray Dib, chief executive Raelene Castle and head coach Des Hasler.


"I wasn't here so I don't know how or why or who. It was before my time. My focus is now and that is to future-proof the club.

"We will manage our cap diligently and become a club focused on development."

Hill said they are in the market for five players. The catch is they have little to spend.

He addressed reports that Parramatta were after David Klemmer, while the Titans and Cowboys have been circling Moses Mbye. Both players are not off contract until 2020 but are believed to be on back-ended deals.

Hill began his tenure at the club in November. New chairwoman Lynne Anderson swept to power in February. Neither official was told about the dire salary cap situation before they took office.

"We were looking in from the sidelines and thought there was something really wrong," Anderson said.

That was based on the fact the Bulldogs did push former captain James Graham out the door in 2017 "solely because we had to become cap compliant", Hill said.


Graham is one of five players the Bulldogs are still carrying part of their salaries in their cap – the others are Brenko Lee (Titans), Brad Abbey (Raiders), Sam Kasiano (Storm) and Moses Suli (Manly).

Asked if he felt let down by the previous administration, Hill said: "I see it as a great challenge for Dean (Pay) and myself.

"We'll get through the next period because we have wonderful and experienced people in key roles."

The Bulldogs have set up a retention and recruitment committee comprised of Hill, Pay, board member and former premiership-winning coach and player Chris Anderson, general manager of football Andrew Farrar, recruitment manager Warren McDonnell and finance manager Vince Costa.

"Dean will have a large say in who we recruit," Hill said. "But the coach won't be meeting players and managers on his own. We will not offer ratchet clauses moving forward, and we will avoid back-ended contracts."


Pay is contracted until the end of 2019. But Anderson hinted extending Pay's tenure at Belmore was high in her thinking.

Anderson and Hill were due to tell club members and supporters the salary cap situation at a fan forum at Canterbury Leagues Club on Thursday night.


ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie and NRL boss Todd Greenberg were also due to address members on the plan to grow rugby league. The Bulldogs are the first of all 16 clubs they are visiting to talk directly to supporters.


Source: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/05/17...ign-high-profile-players-for-three-years-ceo/

OK... So we can't buy superstars.. Then let's create some!

 

[Doggiezbrah]

There’s one player that is expendable in our squad for 2019. Danny Fualao, he is young and makes good metres. I can see him leaving to a team like the raiders to relive some cap pressure.

 

[KLil]

There’s one player that is expendable in our squad for 2019. Danny Fualao, he is young and makes good metres. I can see him leaving to a team like the raiders to relive some cap pressure.

Tolman and Brown... Release pressure and open up to NRL spots.

 

[Doggiezbrah]

Tolman and Brown... Release pressure and open up to NRL spots.

Brown I can see someone taking up but his a good utility. However, Tolman I cannot. Unfortunately, we stuck with unless we pay the majority of his contract.

 

[KLil]

Brown I can see someone taking up but his a good utility. However, Tolman I cannot. Unfortunately, we stuck with unless we pay the majority of his contract.

I'm sure we can still get 4-500k out of both of them..

 

[doggieaaron]

I actually think it’s exciting to see how some of our young guns develop next year and unlike what some are saying we still have a pretty good squad,pay just needs probably 2-3 changes in particular the wing and bench and get them playing with more energy and aggression

 

[DT]

Her first assignment with Izzy Folau big fat fail

That was her in one, ‘Big Fat Fail’