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News Adam Elliott backs young Bulldogs Jake Averillo and Renouf To’omaga to have breakout 2020 seasons

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  1. CaptainJackson

    CaptainJackson Kennel Immortal Gilded

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    Yep i honestly think he himself goes out searching for the attention from the media.

    From the clubs stature position the logical choices would be Jackson, tolman, and hoppa. Not dudiot. The guys clearly elevated himself by being a yes man

    So I'll stop when he either starts performing in justice of his status or he fucks off from the club
     
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  2. PoundHounds

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    Agree...still plenty of soggy sao's from the anti-Elliot circle jerk unfortunately
     
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  3. MariaZ

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    Well said! I Totally agree!
     
  4. doggieaaron

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    Averillo seems like he could be very good
     
  5. Alan79

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    I wanted him gone when he was elevating his religion over commitment to the club. If you don't want to work or train on Sundays, you shouldn't be in a career where you get paid ridiculous money to work and train on Sundays. I too saw it as akin to treason. But it's been a long while since he gave that up. I'm not Hoppas biggest fan. But on a poor day for him he's solid. On a good day he provides plenty of spark, a selfless passing game that can put a team mate into space, quality defence and the versatility to cover anywhere from 1-5 if the need arises. To me that all stacks up to him being pretty good value for us. Makes no sense to move him on unless we have someone that offers better value available.
     
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  6. Alan79

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    I know he's got some glaring deficiencies in his game. I think that he had improved on them before his last few runs in the NRL for us and I'm hopeful that he can meet the requirements to be solid defensively and with kick reception. And if he's not able to have them sorted out prior to round 1 I hope someone else with an all round stronger game starts ahead of him. But if he sorts out his defence and security under the high ball, he could become a bit of a monster winger. It's up to him to do the work though. I haven't written him off though. There are some quality players in the game who've overcome bigger deficiencies. He's young enough in my opinion to justify more time developing.
     
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    I won’t rainbow you mate :-) but optimistic perhaps that he can sort these glaring deficiencies in the next 3 weeks? I’m just not seeing the required quality at all and we can’t afford him to be an easy target to leak points early in the season. For me, if he’s going to make it at all, it’s CCup where he lives to sort those things, not first grade.
     
  8. KiwiDog7

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    It’s frustrating as he has the build and strength/paste of a new age winger and can act as an extra forward especially starting our sets

    Unfortunately he looks a little gun shy/down on confidence in hitting the ball up and his defensive reads/footy IQ need to improve

    I’m not writing him off at all but just needs ample improvement
     
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  9. s-704

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    I think he needs to start the year in nsw cup and should be moved to the forwards. It is clear as day that he is not a winger.
     
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  10. Alan79

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    I'm not calling for him to start the season in the NRL. The coaching staff are there to make these calls. But I think he's still a decent bit of clay to work with. He's contracted for next year too from memory. So it's up to him and his coaches to do the work required in that time frame. I think that the club recognise that our backline depth needed bolstering by looking at the number of backs in our development contracts. Going off an interview he did, it's only his second year as a winger this year, so I hope he develops in the role. If not I have no issues with the club moving him on if he doesn't sort out the flaws.
     
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    I don’t believe he is a first grader, doesn’t use his size in attack and terrible in defence. If he had his hair cut at least he would look like a footballer.
     
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  12. BlackDawg

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    Okkunbur ticks the box for size, height & speed. Takes the high ball reasonably well and good at carting it off our own line. Terrible at reading defense. Given our offensive capabilities we cant afford to carry someone who lets in simple try's. I believe they will start him for a few games but I cant see him staying in 1st grade if his defense doesn't improve.
     
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  13. 2ndphase

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    Okunbor cant read the play and too slow to cover its simple as that.
    Not first grade material in my opinion.
    We cant afford a weak link in the chain with our inexperienced players in our team.
     
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    I'll leave him be but we must acknowledge if we only get 4 tries from our number one centre history has shown there's little chance of making the semis.
     
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    Why is Elliot to rate blokes this guy should focus on mistake free footy plus giving no penalties away
     
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    Meanest and okunbour will do me on the wings
     
  17. Scoooby

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    Doesn’t really matter who Elliot backs to have break out seasons lol, I think a lot will, or won’t haha!! but Harper will and wakeham if he is given his chance also, and a few others may. it’s still an interesting concept..!!
     
  18. Spoonman84

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    Isn’t it a tad premature to be completely writing off Okonbur on a couple of Nines games?
     
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    No, but the 9s defenitely highlighted a few problem areas in his game. I still don't think he has much of a clue of how to play on the wing.
     
  20. Spoonman84

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    Think he’s paying the price for being played in so many different positions during his development. The problem is we are skinny on the wings and even more so if Reimis is playing centre. Averillo isn’t a winger and I’d take Okunbor over Crichton. I’d say it’s more then likely Okunbor is starting Round 1 hopefully he has a good couple of trials and goes into it confident.
     
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