News ‘It was pretty ordinary’: Bulldogs players break ranks over Ciraldo’s ‘shark bait’ punishment

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There is a shitload of soft cocks and primadonnas on this kennel with this punishment subject, and maybe CC and Gus should take a different approach when it comes to players being punished for coming in late, by dishing out 5k fines

That would shut up every cuñt
It should be a collective team decision. Let the players decide what the acceptable standards should be and if you dont live up to that then you suffer what your mates you play with think is about right. If its tough love and hard discipline then they know they have the right players to be winners.
 

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The one thing I took out of the whole article was the statement he was 10 minutes late and never apologised. To me, that says the player didn't think it mattered, especially with what has been reported elsewhere I.E. didn't think he was late. The attitude close enough is good enough seems to come to mind.
 

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Here are my thoughts:

The mole - RFM
The disgruntled player who left - Nu Brown
If they are or not neither should have been at the club in the first place. Bad injury history and especially with RFM lazy defence. But you do sound right.
 

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There is a shitload of soft cocks and primadonnas on this kennel with this punishment subject, and maybe CC and Gus should take a different approach when it comes to players being punished for coming in late, by dishing out 5k fines

That would shut up every cuñt
Did you watch the CC press conference?

they tried it. Clearly wasn’t enough of a deterrent
 

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It should be a collective team decision. Let the players decide what the acceptable standards should be and if you dont live up to that then you suffer what your mates you play with think is about right. If its tough love and hard discipline then they know they have the right players to be winners.
Sorry I disagree, players in a losing team should not be deciding what the acceptable standards are unless we are all happy for another 10 years of this shit. Maybe a majority vote of senior players, could also be a way to weed out the senior players with the wrong attitude. But for me acceptable standard would always be if you are starting at 8 AM you arrive before 8 AM, so if something goes wrong you will not be late. It is about taking responsibility, if they can't even take responsibility for the time they arrive, they will not take responsibility for what happens on the field.
 

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Why would you post this rubbish. Their could be a player who has some serious problems and all this crap would not be helping him.
 

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The one thing I took out of the whole article was the statement he was 10 minutes late and never apologised. To me, that says the player didn't think it mattered, especially with what has been reported elsewhere I.E. didn't think he was late. The attitude close enough is good enough seems to come to mind.
Sorry I disagree, players in a losing team should not be deciding what the acceptable standards are unless we are all happy for another 10 years of this shit. Maybe a majority vote of senior players, could also be a way to weed out the senior players with the wrong attitude. But for me acceptable standard would always be if you are starting at 8 AM you arrive before 8 AM, so if something goes wrong you will not be late. It is about taking responsibility, if they can't even take responsibility for the time they arrive, they will not take responsibility for what happens on the field.
Well obviously the players led by the leadership group should have set the standards first day of pre-season and signed off in consultation with the HC, not after a losing team performance.
 

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Didn’t we sack Suli for being late and other issues? If the guy was late to his job then he deserves to be punished. When players and former players have been interviewed about this they are 100% behind the punishment. I’m sure the ‘standards’ had been communicated. I’m sure the player who quit won’t be seen in opposition colours or if they do manage to get another position they won’t last long after a ‘punishment’
The media love our stories because we sell papers/get hits!
I see the NRL wants a ‘please explain’ now? Will they now have the bunker watch training and serve crazy suspensions to coaches now for training methods, they seem to think if anything looks bad for the sport it needs to be outlawed.
 

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Funny how Topine, Nu and RFM are trying their absolute best to make the club look bad but no one’s buying it. Every single past player and the commentators are not buying what they’re trying to sell. They’re more irritated that they’re being moles and leaking this stuff. Like they’ve all said and will continue to say if it’s too hard there’s the door.
 

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Lol what if it isn't even RFM and we're all shitting on the poor guy for nothing.
This is my concern.

Tough talkers on TK going off half cocked all based on bloody gossip column journos who have a beef with Gus and/or the Bulldogs...fallen for whatever theyve said hook line and sinker crucifying our players.
 

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Ciraldo using Grecian wrestling as punishment for the slackers must have got inspiration from “swamp kings” the Florida Gators college gridiron documentary on Netflix.
The coach was one tough son of a bitch most of our powderpuffs wouldn’t have made it to smoko break under his watch.
 

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Jai Bednall from News.com.au
August 31st, 2023 6:27 am

The crisis at Canterbury shows no signs of slowing as the fallout over a training punishment known as “shark bait” and clear fractions between some players and the club’s coaching staff and management continues.

The Bulldogs’ disappointing season has hit new lows this week after it was revealed a player walked out on the club after being brutally punished for arriving late to a training session last month.

The club has been unapologetic about its need to improve professional standards at Belmore, but it’s clear not everyone is on the same page as players continue to defend themselves and leak information to the media.

Now players have spoken out annonymously about the incident in a further indication of the division within the club.

On Wednesday night, The Daily Telegraph published explosive new comments from players who are pointing the finger back at a coaching group led by Cameron Ciraldo.

They offered further detail about the player being used as “shark bait”, with one expressing his discomfort at what went down.

“He was made to wrestle everyone and you can imagine how fatigued he got. It was everyone in the top 30 squad apart from the injured guys,” the player said. “After it happened, I thought ‘what the f**k was that?’ It was pretty ordinary. A lot of players didn’t want to do it.”

Another player, who is no longer at the club, told The Daily Telegraph he left because of “the environment”.

The publication also reported Ciraldo’s recent criticism of his team’s work ethic has angered some players.

It’s been a wild week for rookie coach Ciraldo, who doubled down on his methods after being accused by a select few players of working them too hard.

The rookie coach drew a line in the sand and said he’ll make no apologies for insisting hard work is at the core of the club’s rebuild.

On NRL 360 on Wednesday night, Canterbury was accused of “letting the inmates run the asylum” while Bulldogs premiership winner Braith Anasta believes “there is a mole” in the playing group trying to bring down the club.

“The inmates are running the asylum, if you allow the inmates to run the asylum your standards will fall,” Billy Moore said on NRL 360.

“Ciraldo has come out and made a very profound statement that the standards will stay high and if you don’t want to get on the bus then get off it and I can’t agree more.

“Compare them to the Warriors under Andrew Webster, every player has gotten better there. You can’t say that about the Dogs, there’s something not right there.

“There is something festering at the club and between Gus (Gould) and Ciraldo they have to lance it and get rid of it because if they’re in this position next year then (the board) might not be as generous to Ciraldo.”

There’s reportedly “a lack of trust” within the club after several leaks to the media in recent weeks.

“There is a lack of trust between elements of the playing group and the coach because things are getting out. Stuff that’s in-house is getting out,” Michael Carayannis said.

“You can trace it back to Josh Jackson’s retirement last year, he sent a text message to the playing group and within a couple of hours it was out there.

“Tevita Pangai Jr’s retirement broke after he told the playing group. This is stuff that’s super in-house.”

“It doesn’t just sound like a leak to me right now, it sounds like a vendetta,” Anasta said. “It’s not just a leak here, it’s someone trying to bring down (the club) from within the group, to destabilise them. There’s a mole in the camp.”

Anasta has declared the state of affairs at the Bulldogs “an emergency” and even suggested the Bulldogs must break the rules and sign a contracted player.

“They need to almost go out and steal a player, they need to go behind closed doors and get a player out of a contract, or whoever is off contract next who is a powerhouse forward, they need to get. It is an emergency,” Anasta responded.

“They need a big fish, they missed out on Payne Haas, they missed out on Tino Fa’asuamaleaui,” Gorden Tallis added.

Canterbury has seen almost 40 players depart since general manager Gould joined the club halfway through 2021.

James Hooper called the current crisis the biggest test of Gould’s administrative career but backed him to lead the club out the hole.

“They’ve got one the best deal-makers in the business to that point in Gus, if anyone can go when there aren’t players on the market and there’s not a whole lot doing. If anyone can identify an area where they might be able to target somebody, it’s Gus,” Hooper said.

“This is a huge test for the Canterbury Bulldogs and the biggest challenge of Cameron Ciraldo’s short career but also close to the biggest test of Gus as a GM anywhere,” Anasta said.

“He got the Roosters to the premiership, we helped the Panthers to the premiership. He comes to the Bulldogs and it’s gone backwards.”
Poodles must go !
Bring back the Bulldogs !
News Lies un-Ltd publications are corrupt !
Eventually the truth will destroy Drunkenfield !
 

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This..

“Compare them to the Warriors under Andrew Webster, every player has gotten better there. You can’t say that about the Dogs, there’s something not right there.”

That’s what good coaches do they make players better..each player is different..it’s the role of the coach to find away to get the best out of em. Some thrive on these individual punishments.. others obviously don’t.. it’s not really about being tough. If you train hard work and get fit it comes out on the football field always.. it helps you enjoy your football..both in attack and defence..

I for one don’t agree with these ‘out of the box’ types of individual punishments..they’re a little childish and I think they are dumb and are a waste of time..I’d be getting em to do extra sprints, laps, a long run..shit like that. .

However, you gotta be made accountable for not adhering to the standards set by the club and coach which have to be clearly set out and the consequences known right from the get go. For me if one person does not meet the standards than the whole team has to take the punishment exactly like it happens out on the field. That whole notion of not letting your teammates down is the cornerstone of success. No player worth his salt wants to let the team mates down. This is what builds a team.
 

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Some creative writing there, makes it sound like the player was thrown in with great whites and torn limb from limb …

My gut feeling is certain players have been shamed and blamed for some pretty piss poor efforts, and they’ve taken offence to it.

Not pointing the finger but it’s strange how Brisbane had this same problem a while back when TPJ was there, once gone things improved pretty quickly …

We need to do the same, this toxic environment can’t be there next season … hopefully it’s just the crew that’s been tapped on the shoulder that are bitching and the stink leaves with them …

Either way the line in the sands been drawn, now they need to stick to it
 

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It should be a collective team decision. Let the players decide what the acceptable standards should be and if you dont live up to that then you suffer what your mates you play with think is about right. If its tough love and hard discipline then they know they have the right players to be winners.
The reason we are in the shit we are is because players have been allowed to drive standards, this attitude towards players is exactly why we are where are. You meet the standards that the club and the coach set then you get a say not before.
 

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Lol what if it isn't even RFM and we're all shitting on the poor guy for nothing.
I think people are just guessing that the Poly guys have there own little group, and with Topine being identified it's suggested that may be the case. I don't disagree though. It's going to be those guys on the fringe who have been there for donkeys like RFM who is probably sad that he won't put the amount of work in to get that starting role when it used to be handed to him on a platter cause we had no one else.
 
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