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If you haven't met me in the flesh, you'll no doubt be aware I have a big mouth.
And I dont just say that because I can fit it around the rim of a glass, or put my fist in it.
Here's something life has taught me the hard way many, many times - You CAN'T tell people what should offend them and what shouldn't ! Sorry folks ... that's just the way it is.
There are a few select topics that instantly raise the ire of me. These occur because I am sensitive to the issue, and find it very difficult to tolerate people who are intolerant or ill-educated on certain issues near and dear to me.
As an example ... "Suicide" - THAT topic (non-religious mind you) often finds me on the recieving end of some seemingly innocent 'joke'.Unfortunately for me, every time someone says "go neck yourself" I have to fight hard not to focus on what life experience sadly taught me. With time and exposure to repeat incidents, I have learned to be more tolerant and turn the other cheek a little - This comes from learning the hard way that people can't be expected to "know" what offends me.
Do I accept it ? Somewhat.
Generally I like to make the world a happier place. But sometimes you're just NOT gonna win anything but an aneurysm doing a sole-crusade. Should someone comes along and tells me to HTFU, what do you reckon my smart-arsed mouth is gonna do ? There's no way in hell I will allow them to tell me why I should/shouldn't get offended. My experiences are profound. My knowledge strong.
There's another edge to this sword .... it's called someone else's perspective !
In my time on The Kennel, I have offended people over the following issues ....
• Jokes about Virgin Mary at Xmas.
• Being fat.
• Posting graphic images containing injury or nudity.
• Swearing too much.
• Be-littling people's intelligence/views.
• My views on Indian protesters.
• My views on Indonesian Government.
... to name but a mere few.
Going into some of these issues I was aware it may have caused some offence, but may not have realised how much. Other times I had no intention of offending anyone but still managed to, depsite giving it great thought and consideration.
If at this point you find yourself on the opposite end of criticism, it's probably a good guide that you've offended them. Is that OK to do ? Well, that's up to each of us to decide, but personally speaking it's not OK to get to that point because usually "it's not the intended result". So I'll apologise, explain myself, back down, mend fences, redirect, acknoweldge msiatakes ..... anythign to let people know what I really meant - If I can stop them being offended then I will. Telling them to HTFU certainly does not help.
This place is wonderful for an education is topics you may not otherwise get the chance to learn about ... long held pre-conceptions can be blown out of the water with a simple chat to another Dogs fan. As an example, these days I am one of the most vocal defenders of Muslim's whenever anyone labels a Bulldogs fan a terrorist. I am as white as a milk-bottle.
So what does this all mean for the Hannant and Gibbs issue ?
It means Ben's Mormon faith, is another person's Islam.
Gibbs's taunts are another's "***" taunts.
The problem I have with Gibbs was that he "deliberately targetted what he knew to be a sensitive topic". There's simply no room for "Sorry bro I had no idea". It's the height of arrogance that Gibbs is allowed to give Hannant a serve when requested for an apology.
This "what happends on the field stays on the field" mentality is p*ss-weak in this instance. Gibbs is using it a a convenient hook to hang his little barb on because he knows in the real world you're NOT allowed to do that sh*t without consequences. There's no amount of "it was just a joke-slash-in-the-heat-of-the-monent" in it.
Deliberate. Targetted. Intended.
All the hallmarks of an arrogant, ill-educated douche ... ill-equipped to properly deal with his own failure as a footballer.
If you haven't met me in the flesh, you'll no doubt be aware I have a big mouth.
And I dont just say that because I can fit it around the rim of a glass, or put my fist in it.
Here's something life has taught me the hard way many, many times - You CAN'T tell people what should offend them and what shouldn't ! Sorry folks ... that's just the way it is.
There are a few select topics that instantly raise the ire of me. These occur because I am sensitive to the issue, and find it very difficult to tolerate people who are intolerant or ill-educated on certain issues near and dear to me.
As an example ... "Suicide" - THAT topic (non-religious mind you) often finds me on the recieving end of some seemingly innocent 'joke'.Unfortunately for me, every time someone says "go neck yourself" I have to fight hard not to focus on what life experience sadly taught me. With time and exposure to repeat incidents, I have learned to be more tolerant and turn the other cheek a little - This comes from learning the hard way that people can't be expected to "know" what offends me.
Do I accept it ? Somewhat.
Generally I like to make the world a happier place. But sometimes you're just NOT gonna win anything but an aneurysm doing a sole-crusade. Should someone comes along and tells me to HTFU, what do you reckon my smart-arsed mouth is gonna do ? There's no way in hell I will allow them to tell me why I should/shouldn't get offended. My experiences are profound. My knowledge strong.
There's another edge to this sword .... it's called someone else's perspective !
In my time on The Kennel, I have offended people over the following issues ....
• Jokes about Virgin Mary at Xmas.
• Being fat.
• Posting graphic images containing injury or nudity.
• Swearing too much.
• Be-littling people's intelligence/views.
• My views on Indian protesters.
• My views on Indonesian Government.
... to name but a mere few.
Going into some of these issues I was aware it may have caused some offence, but may not have realised how much. Other times I had no intention of offending anyone but still managed to, depsite giving it great thought and consideration.
If at this point you find yourself on the opposite end of criticism, it's probably a good guide that you've offended them. Is that OK to do ? Well, that's up to each of us to decide, but personally speaking it's not OK to get to that point because usually "it's not the intended result". So I'll apologise, explain myself, back down, mend fences, redirect, acknoweldge msiatakes ..... anythign to let people know what I really meant - If I can stop them being offended then I will. Telling them to HTFU certainly does not help.
This place is wonderful for an education is topics you may not otherwise get the chance to learn about ... long held pre-conceptions can be blown out of the water with a simple chat to another Dogs fan. As an example, these days I am one of the most vocal defenders of Muslim's whenever anyone labels a Bulldogs fan a terrorist. I am as white as a milk-bottle.
So what does this all mean for the Hannant and Gibbs issue ?
It means Ben's Mormon faith, is another person's Islam.
Gibbs's taunts are another's "***" taunts.
The problem I have with Gibbs was that he "deliberately targetted what he knew to be a sensitive topic". There's simply no room for "Sorry bro I had no idea". It's the height of arrogance that Gibbs is allowed to give Hannant a serve when requested for an apology.
This "what happends on the field stays on the field" mentality is p*ss-weak in this instance. Gibbs is using it a a convenient hook to hang his little barb on because he knows in the real world you're NOT allowed to do that sh*t without consequences. There's no amount of "it was just a joke-slash-in-the-heat-of-the-monent" in it.
Deliberate. Targetted. Intended.
All the hallmarks of an arrogant, ill-educated douche ... ill-equipped to properly deal with his own failure as a footballer.