Bondi stabbing

[Memberberries]

Crazy hey. Could never imagine walking around with a knife. I was ambushed about 20 year ago, it was pretty random back then.

A knife in the right hands is useful tool.
Such a shame people use knives with intent to harm or kill.
Gives knives a bad name.

 

[Kempsey Dog]

I have seen a few stabbings.
I've also been threatened by a coward with a knife.

Also seen the police arresting a scum in Bankstown the other day who had a knife.

How many coward pieces of shit are wandering around with a knife?

All drug addicts or mentally unstable people I've met in my life are infatuated with weapons.
Generally knives, swords and anything they can swing on a rope lol. Not sure if others experience the same, but seems commonplace to me.

 

[DinkumDog]

Would have been worse if the perp had a gun

I’ve received several messages from American colleagues and friends this morning (most of whom have spent time in Sydney, including visiting Westfield Bondi) expressing shock that something like this could happen here. One common theme in the messages apart from sympathy was ‘at least you guys have your gun laws sorted - if it were here and the perp had had an AR-15 he could buy at Walmart, likely things end much worse’. Hard to argue. #FreeDumb

 

[Kempsey Dog]

A knife in the right hands is useful tool.
Such a shame people use knives with intent to harm or kill.
Gives knives a bad name.

100% people can conceal a knife pretty easily, even if it's in their hand. Most people in shops are concerned about themselves and can be oblivious to their surroundings. I'm always on edge in shops and crowds through, scanning constantly

 

[Doogie]

It's hard to say what you'd do in the situation. I've intervened when it looked like drunks are about to belt their girlfriends. Helped drag attackers off a person getting the shit kicked out of them on the ground with a couple of my mates also grabbing the attackers. But I've usually had bottled courage in my system when I've intervened. I don't know if I'm quite as brave sober.

And I recall a guy in Melbourne who got shot for intervening on a guy pushing his girl around. So it's easy to say how brave you will be in these situations. But the body preparing for bravery is reacting in almost exactly the same way as the body preparing for intelligent cowardice.

I like to think if id been there I'd have grabbed some type of weapon from a shop and at least tried to slow him up. But every man there barring the one dude probably would be thinking the same if they hadn't been there and found out something about themselves.

Mate - about 6 years ago I'm in the office at Parramatta. Level is completely secured, you need a pass card to get to our floor and then another to get through the glass doors. We also have the Uni in the building and most of the students fck up at some point and piggy back to our floors. No biggy, you tell them to fck off and they go.

Theres a chick sitting about 10m away from me and next thing some dude who definitely doesn't work there is next to her desk and she's looking nervous. Anyways, I get up, walk over and tell the guy he shouldn't be here and has to leave, noting he's got his hands in his pockets. Sort of said it mid-voice so others on the floor would know. Dude about my size who's army reserve jumps up and walks over, says the same thing. Dude says he's just enjoying the view to the city (yep city views) and we said thats great, but out you go.

We escorted him through the doors into the lifts - I pointed at his hands to my colleague and he got the gist - watch the hands. Sent him to the ground floor (no buttons in the lifts) so he's going there unless someone calls the lift on the way down. Turns out the girl rang the cops the moment we got him moving.

Comes out on the ground floor as apparently 3 cops walk in the other end of the building. He sees them and does the dash. We found out later he was armed with a flip knife, pulled it on the cops when cornered and they tasered the fck out of him. None of this made the news as no one got hurt. We put double glass doors in after that.

Now, I know of an ex KC bouncer and two guys that do krav maga who were closer than me and neither of them moved.

All these wanks judging others for not doing x, y and z. And blaming someone for not putting their life at risk for others is just plain shit. Fair play to you for saying what you think you would do. You never know until you are in that position.

 

[Alan79]

Guy near on beheaded his sister in the front yard a while back. Drugs and mental issues. Said she was the devil. (The only one in the family who would take him in apparently)

In Armidale some years back an old man was found beheaded in the park across the street from his home. They eventually found out it was the guys nephew. The nephew had borrowed money to keep his business afloat more than once until the uncle told him no more, let the business go because it was a money pit. The nephew apparently had mental issues too.

So world over I think making it easy and free to access psychological help would be a great step in humanity. Weapons for self defence can very quickly become an object if murder when anger rears its head.

 

[DinkumDog]

To add to the mother, she was shielding her baby and actually threw her to a man which came to her aid.

A brave and good man who there’s a fair chance will be traumatised by what he has seen. These are the knock on effects of such a terrible event.

 

[Memberberries]

100% people can conceal a knife pretty easily, even if it's in their hand. Most people in shops are concerned about themselves and can be oblivious to their surroundings. I'm always on edge in shops and crowds through, scanning constantly

I always scale the sidewalls and keep a watch over my backwhile walking most of the time.

All drug addicts or mentally unstable people I've met in my life are infatuated with weapons.
Generally knives, swords and anything they can swing on a rope lol. Not sure if others experience the same, but seems commonplace to me.

In my opinion that is a bit generalised.
Anyone can have a brain snap and act out irrationally.

It's not just a race or drug issue.

 

[trent_solotar7]

What were security doing at the time, makes me wonder.

Makes more sense to have armed guards in public places because security did shit all.

this was just put in my seccy group chat

 

[The DoggFather]

Mate - about 6 years ago I'm in the office at Parramatta. Level is completely secured, you need a pass card to get to our floor and then another to get through the glass doors. We also have the Uni in the building and most of the students fck up at some point and piggy back to our floors. No biggy, you tell them to fck off and they go.

Theres a chick sitting about 10m away from me and next thing some dude who definitely doesn't work there is next to her desk and she's looking nervous. Anyways, I get up, walk over and tell the guy he shouldn't be here and has to leave, noting he's got his hands in his pockets. Sort of said it mid-voice so others on the floor would know. Dude about my size who's army reserve jumps up and walks over, says the same thing. Dude says he's just enjoying the view to the city (yep city views) and we said thats great, but out you go.

We escorted him through the doors into the lifts - I pointed at his hands to my colleague and he got the gist - watch the hands. Sent him to the ground floor (no buttons in the lifts) so he's going there unless someone calls the lift on the way down. Turns out the girl rang the cops the moment we got him moving.

Comes out on the ground floor as apparently 3 cops walk in the other end of the building. He sees them and does the dash. We found out later he was armed with a flip knife, pulled it on the cops when cornered and they tasered the fck out of him. None of this made the news as no one got hurt. We put double glass doors in after that.

Now, I know of an ex KC bouncer and two guys that do krav maga who were closer than me and neither of them moved.

All these wanks judging others for not doing x, y and z. And blaming someone for not putting their life at risk for others is just plain shit. Fair play to you for saying what you think you would do. You never know until you are in that position.

Exactly bro, without going into details, I've dealt with 3 separate stabbings, had a gun pointed at me and shot at in a driveby at a nightclub. I acted differently all incidents and only knew what I done after reviewing CCTV.

I've seen the hardest ***** turn into little girls and I've seen gentle people turn into beasts.

 

[Ribo Flavin]

Would have been worse if the perp had a gun

if we are going to speak in hypotheticals, whats to say this monster wouldnt have been taken out by a sensible gun owner just out doing his or her shopping? may have prevented a lot of pain and heartache. hypothetical of course.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Makes sense, yeah I agree he likely expected that end result. However, he could have also been experiencing a psychotic episode and hallucinating. Unmedicated paranoid schizophrenics can experience this quite regularly.

Either way the cop made the right call..

Yeah after posting that I also thought what you say here. He may have been suffering a psychotic or schizophrenic episode and wasn’t even thinking about his own life. It’s hard to say without further evidence but it does seem premeditated, and it also looks like he has targeted women as there was only one male victim, but again we won’t know until further investigation. It could have simply been more women in his warpath. I do note that there is video of him not pursuing men though, which does lend support to the idea that he did have some semblance of knowledge of what he was doing. Again though, he could have had schizophrenic ideation that women were evil or something.

I’m not trying to excuse or lessen this man’s actions at all, just trying to understand and explain how something so terrible can happen. The reality is it can be sad for his family too. If he was truly suffering from severe mental episode, he’s a victim too, but for now the victims that deserve most sympathy are those he brutally murdered. Maybe hekll deserve some if it’s proven he had severe mental illness, but for now no.

 

[The DoggFather]

if we are going to speak in hypotheticals, whats to say this monster wouldnt have been taken out by a sensible gun owner just out doing his or her shopping? may have prevented a lot of pain and heartache. hypothetical of course.

As a former licensed gun owner for work and home, I can see arguments for both sides.

But let's be real for a second... no fkn criminal handed in their guns, the only ones that handed them back are obviously law abiding folks.

 

[The DoggFather]

Yeah after posting that I also thought what you say here. He may have been suffering a psychotic or schizophrenic episode and wasn’t even thinking about his own life. It’s hard to say without further evidence but it does seem premeditated, and it also looks like he has targeted women as there was only one male victim, but again we won’t know until further investigation. It could have simply been more women in his warpath. I do note that there is video of him not pursuing men though, which does lend support to the idea that he did have some semblance of knowledge of what he was doing. Again though, he could have had schizophrenic ideation that women were evil or something.

I’m not trying to excuse or lessen this man’s actions at all, just trying to understand and explain how something so terrible can happen. The reality is it can be sad for his family too. If he was truly suffering from severe mental episode, he’s a victim too, but for now the victims that deserve most sympathy are those he brutally murdered. Maybe hekll deserve some if it’s proven he had severe mental illness, but for now no.

Reports coming out saying when a man actually faced him he would run away.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

People turning this into a race war or even gender war is everything that's wrong with social media today... it's not going to bring the deceased back

There’s anti-white racism right here in this thread that’s been ignored. It’s pathetic. Why even mention race when it’s clear this wasn’t politically motivated?

 

[Hacky McAxe]

Queensland Police said that they were aware of him and aware he had mental health issues, but he had no criminal record and was never arrested.

 

[The DoggFather]

There’s anti-white racism right here in this thread that’s been ignored. It’s pathetic. Why even mention race when it’s clear this wasn’t politically motivated?

Bigotry against Muslims was ignored off the bat in this thread too, but don't let that get in the way of your agenda...

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Go on Twitter and read all the comments under Mr Duttons sympathetic tweet. All the anti immigration Muslim haters are out in force and the memes are disgusting.

I’m not going to waste my life looking for that but wtf has Islam got to do with this mass murder?! Like there’s not a single thing that points to that, is there? Afaik the killer was a white Aussie. Could have been Muslim but I haven’t heard that mentioned.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

coming back to Westfield with a knife.

Please explain. He was there earlier in the day and returned later with a knife?

 

[The DoggFather]

Please explain. He was there earlier in the day and returned later with a knife?

Was there, walked out for 10 mins, then came back with the knife.