Opinion State of the roster for 2023

[kap123]

Had a crack at looking at this year vs next years roster and proposed changes I'd make. I don't know the ins and outs of the cap but just kept it to 30 players and getting the thing under 10 mil.

My changes aren't drastic but there are also ones like looking to get rid of Thompson or Jackson that will improve the state of the roster dramatically,

• Don't resign - Dufty, Katoa, RFM, Stimson, Vaughan, Wakeham
• Released - Allan, JMK
• Signed - Mahoney, Kikau, Sutton
• To sign - Jayden Campbell
• Promote - Kiraz, Hayward, Rajab, Toia

Best 17

1 Jayden Campbell 2 Naden 3 Schoupp 4 Kiraz/Alamoti 5 JAC 6 Burton 7 Flanagan 8 Thompson 9 Mahoney 10 TPJ 11 Kikau 12 Hetherington 13 Jackson 14 BBO 15 King 16 Sutton 17 Patolo

Name	2022	2023	Position
Alamoti	150	110	Outside Back
Bailey Hayward	Flegg	110	Half
Hoffman	110	110	Edge
Khaled Rajab	Flegg	110	Half
BBO	150	150	Utility
Burns	150	150	Outside Back
Cook	150	150	Hooker
Jacob Kiraz	Train & Trial	150	Outside Back
Patolo	150	150	Middle
Toia	Train & Trial	150	Full Back
Topine	140	180	Edge
Doorey	200	200	Edge
King	150	200	Middle
Okunbor	200	200	Outside Back
Seumanufagai	200	200	Middle
Schoupp	250	250	Outside Back
Averillo	300	300	Utility
Ryan Sutton		300	Middle
Waddell	300	300	Edge
Hetherington	400	400	Edge
Jayden Campbell		400	Full Back
Naden	400	400	Outside Back
Flanagan	450	450	Half
JAC	550	550	Outside Back
Jackson	600	600	Middle
Mahoney		600	Hooker
Burton	500	750	Half
TPJ	750	750	Middle
Kikau		800	Edge
Thompson	800	800	Middle
Dufty	450	Don't resign	Full Back
Katoa	110	Don't resign	Outside Back
RFM	500	Don't resign	Edge
Stimson	300	Don't resign	Edge
Vaughan	450	Don't resign	Middle
Wakeham	200	Don't resign	Half
Allan	500	Released	Outside Back
JMK	400	Released	Hooker

 

[Como Dog]

Hopefully Jackson on the bench at the very least.

 

[diddly]

Of the unsigned id only seek to keep Vaughn at a reasonable price
Id be exploring ways to move on Thompson Burns Naden Flanagan Averillo Seumanufagai Patolo Okunbor Cook JMK

Releasing players/ clubs from contracts needs lots of moving parts to fall into place

 

[Kelpie03]

Hopefully Jackson on the bench at the very least.

Yea, Yea, Yea, we will go a long way in 2023 with Flanno at 7.

 

[wendog33]

Of the unsigned id only seek to keep Vaughn at a reasonable price
Id be exploring ways to move on Thompson Burns Naden Flanagan Averillo Seumanufagai Patolo Okunbor Cook JMK

Releasing players/ clubs from contracts needs lots of moving parts to fall into place

All the while ensuring that those released are replaced for far better, or at least equal but cheaper.

 

[bradyk]

I can't see the Titans letting go of Campbell, he's not off contract until 2025. I still think they'll play him even with Foran signing.

I have a very similar "don't re-sign" and release list but it's going to be difficult to move on Allan. I'd throw Flanagan in there too but same issue.

Vaughan unlucky to be moved on but I think we need salary cap space (especially if we want another signing or 2). I think it'll be too hard to move Thompson on.

I'd go something like this

1. Averillo
2. JAC
3. Schoupp
4. Alamoti
5. Kiraz
6. Burton
7. BBO
8. Thompson
9. Mahoney
10. King
11. Kikau
12. TPJ
13. Jackson

14. Doorey
15. Sutton
16. Patolo
17. Topine

Transfer Targets
1. Matterson - quality ball playing lock
2. CNK - steel effort experienced fullback

The dream would be Munster and Walsh for 2024 but that's very unlikely.

 

[Como Dog]

Yea, Yea, Yea, we will go a long way in 2023 with Flanno at 7.

We'll go just as well with Jackson at 13.

 

[B-Train]

We can't just release Allan unless we pay his full salary. He has another year left on his deal.. If he's moved on, he'd have to agree and the clubs would have to negotiate what percentage of his deal would be paid..

 

[Moedogg]

Burton needs an experienced half alongside him. Sell everything and buy Munster with an early release. We gave those Assholes Reimis without getting anything back m

 

[Como Dog]

We can't just release Allan unless we pay his full salary. He has another year left on his deal.. If he's moved on, he'd have to agree and negotiating between the clubs of what percentage of his deal would be paid would need to be worked out.

Hopefully ..... enter Wayne Bennett and the Dolphins.

 

[Philmus]

2. CNK - steel effort experienced fullback

the bloke's made of paper

 

[B-Train]

Hopefully ..... enter Wayne Bennett and the Dolphins.

You'd think it's a chance as Bennett coached him at Souths but it hasn't happened yet despite Allan being available. Either they're not interested or they're waiting to see what happens with higher priority targets first.

 

[bradyk]

the bloke's made of paper

"so is Foran". You get him cheap (~350k) and for ~2 years. I think he's unlucky. No other options on the market, he's not really on the market himself, just depends what Raiders do with Savage.

 

[diddly]

All the while ensuring that those released are replaced for far better, or at least equal but cheaper.

Not all have to be replaced by better BUT if most are replaced by cheaper more dollars are available to spend on better in key positions. Need more emphasis on finding players on the way up in terms of ability n performance and less on finding those that have reached their peak as bench or depth players. Fullback, Half and front row.

 

[Como Dog]

You'd think it's a chance as Bennett coached him at Souths but it hasn't happened yet despite Allan being available. Either they're not interested or they're waiting to see what happens with higher priority targets first.

Given he's not off contract a quick call to his mgr would probably be enough, given how desperate they will be for players they're probably focussed on marquee players at the moment before they finish filling the squad.

 

[c-b-b]

No offence but things aren't that easy.

Firstly Vaughan is doing more work than Thommo, why he wouldn't be retained on another year or two deal is beyond me. He provides much better value than some of the overpaid hacks.

If JMK gets a deal elsewhere he will go which is great, we'll need to paid most of Allan's deal to play elsewhere, it was just a stupid deal but I doubt he goes anywhere unless Skeletor gets desperate later this year.

Jayden Campbell is signed with the Titans until the end of 2024.

 

[Total Fool]

Am I the only one that thinks JAC at 1 sniffing around the ruck looking for offloads especially off TPJ would gets our points ticking along?

JMK gets the offload & looks like a f{}cking stunned mullet, whilst Dufty isn’t a fan of the contact.

Surely T Ballz needs to shake things up a little ffs

 

[Philmus]

I reckon this is the way to go. Still not top 4 though, especially with flanno as 7 but at least its a decent fullback, strike centre, ball playing 13, decent edge backrower in Aitken to partner Kikau. Dont think we can afford them all though

• Don't resign - Dufty, Katoa, RFM, Stimson, Doorey, Wakeham
• Release - Allan, JMK
• Signed - Mahoney, Kikau, Sutton
• Retire - Jackson
• Targets - Drinkwater, Farnworth, Aitken, Matterson
• Promote - Kiraz, Hayward, Toia

Best 17

1 Drinkwater
2 Kiraz
3 Schoupp
4 Farnworth
5 JAC
6 Burton
7 Flannagan
8 Vaughan
9 Mahoney
10 TPJ
11 Kikau
12 Aitken
13 Matterson

14 BBO
15 King
16 Thompson
17 Sutton

 

[B-Train]

Am I the only one that thinks JAC at 1 sniffing around the ruck looking for offloads especially off TPJ would gets our points ticking along?

JMK gets the offload & looks like a f{}cking stunned mullet, whilst Dufty isn’t a fan of the contact.

Surely T Ballz needs to shake things up a little ffs

Addo-Carr was at centre late in the game a few times last week which led to a few half breaks. Hopefully they keep trying things like this and at least give him short stints of games at fullback to get him more involved.

 

[bradyk]

I reckon this is the way to go. Still not top 4 though, especially with flanno as 7 but at least its a decent fullback, strike centre, ball playing 13, decent edge backrower in Aitken to partner Kikau. Dont think we can afford them all though

• Don't resign - Dufty, Katoa, RFM, Stimson, Doorey, Wakeham
• Release - Allan, JMK
• Signed - Mahoney, Kikau, Sutton
• Retire - Jackson
• Targets - Drinkwater, Farnworth, Aitken, Matterson
• Promote - Kiraz, Hayward, Toia

Best 17

1 Drinkwater
2 Kiraz
3 Schoupp
4 Farnworth
5 JAC
6 Burton
7 Flannagan
8 Vaughan
9 Mahoney
10 TPJ
11 Kikau
12 Aitken
13 Matterson

14 BBO
15 King
16 Thompson
17 Sutton

Drinky good shout but looks like he's got the Cowboys fullback spot. Hammer isn't a fullback either imo.