Why does Schoupp get a free pass?

[Psycho Doggie]

Tbh the breakdown in defense normally starts well before the obvious leak.. yes okunbor and schoupp could have made better choices but the half and second rower should be reading the play better and put more pressure on the opposition half.. each bad decisions made by the inside defenders is amplifier to the bad decisions of the winger and centre..

Our defensive line is far too passive and cannot cope with a quick play the ball by the opposition..

And the half and second rower in turn depend to some degree on the blokes inside them. The impetus for any defensive set on the line starts with the guys marking the ruck and the potential first receivers.

It is notable that those issues were mostly cleaned up in the second half. This can't be put down merely to SJ's absence, because the 2nd try they scored in the first half didn't involve him at all. But when the Sharks tried to get the same overlaps in the 2nd half our defense did enough.

 

[diddly]

Knockonbor runs like a school girl idk how the fuck he made it to first grade I almost pissed myself watching him run at the end of the first half I think it was

should never had made sgball

 

[c-b-b]

We're getting the spoon so I'm happy to see some of these kids get experience. I'd like to see Heleta given a shot on the wing ahead of Okunbur now. When we have a better side next year decisions will be made about who fits in, if the powers that be don't think he's good enough then he'll play NSW cup.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

We're getting the spoon so I'm happy to see some of these kids get experience. I'd like to see Heleta given a shot on the wing ahead of Okunbur now. When we have a better side next year decisions will be made about who fits in, if the powers that be don't think he's good enough then he'll play NSW cup.

Start Okunbor at prop and make the little bitch tackle.

 

[Doggy71]

The whole team makes bad defensive reads,not just schoupp,it's a snowball effect.

 

[D- voice]

Keep blaming okunbor....Schoupp has been making bad defensive reads ever since he came into the side. Pretty silly to blame a guy who has been in the dude for 2 games for problems that have been evident all season.

As for Okunbor’s runs looking a bit tentative. He is returning from a severe injury and hasn’t even had the benefit of a run in reserves. It’s not unusual for a player to look tentative in situations like this. Did any of you watch Papenhuysen play on Friday?

Just amuses me that players like Okunbor get zeroed in on and turn to shreds, while kennel darlings like Schoupp get a free pass.

Okunbor shouldn't be picked in first grade he needs to recover from injuries in reserves,
Our defence out wide has been terrible all year, we have to stop tries before we score them !
The available solution
1 Meaney
2 Schoupp / Allen
3 Allen / Schoupp
4 Lewis...no one else defends better / he isn't a 6 or 7
5 Cotric

 

[Benno Bulldog]

The whole team makes bad defensive reads,not just schoupp,it's a snowball effect.

We need to face fact that our defence needs an overhaul, although we have had some good displays this year its not for anywhere near long enough and despite our recruitment of strike power next year, our defence could remain a basket case into 22

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Shoupp didn't have a good game defensively today but he's been OK overall. He held his own against better teams last 2 weeks prior to today. His carries from our end are generally very good. Maybe a game like today will be an eye opener to him as a player in the top grade to look at his flaws and correct them. His very raw still but we need to allow guys like him time.

If you watch it properly, lewis was continually beat on the outside which then forced Shoupp to come in.

 

[Philmus]

Bullshit. Schoupp crested holes in the defensive line by rushing up in his very first game..... and as Alan pointed out, the whole team is failing to slide to cover the wingers and that has been a problem all season. What do people expect them to do? Hang on the wing and let the opposition just stroll through the gaping hole inside them?

It’s just plain silly to try snd Josh’s a bloke who has been in the team for two weeks for problems thst have persisted all season.

Schoupp is a kennel pet, so most aren’t willing to admit when he does wrong. How on earth can you blame okunbor for him rushing up like that?

you’re deluded. first elliot now okunbor, for some reason you gravitate towards shit players and think they’re origin worthy

 

[Philmus]

Schoupp is our only back that consistently gets over the ad line. Acknowledging his defence needs work, look at who is inside of him Corey Waddell, notoriously known for jersey grabbing and outside is Okunbor who couldn't mark up on his winger if his life depended on it.

this is 100% correct

 

[Dogmonster]

I thought Conner Tracey was too small but even he showed all our backs up yesterday. And jesse Ramien what a beast. Selectors are blind.

 

[Berries]

All three of Lewis, Schoupp and Okunbur cost tries down that side. teams should have a field day against that trio.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

I thought Conner Tracey was too small but even he showed all our backs up yesterday. And jesse Ramien what a beast. Selectors are blind.

Ramien is a beast but he has bombed so many tries this season by just trying to run over everyone instead of just passing the ball.

 

[maroondog72]

Bullshit. Schoupp crested holes in the defensive line by rushing up in his very first game..... and as Alan pointed out, the whole team is failing to slide to cover the wingers and that has been a problem all season. What do people expect them to do? Hang on the wing and let the opposition just stroll through the gaping hole inside them?

It’s just plain silly to try snd Josh’s a bloke who has been in the team for two weeks for problems thst have persisted all season.

Schoupp is a kennel pet, so most aren’t willing to admit when he does wrong. How on earth can you blame okunbor for him rushing up like that?

well the only hole you are cresting is adams

 

[Dogmonster]

Very noticeable Schoupp did rush up leaving a massive hole behind him, good sides will keep that in there memory banks, i hate our retreating defence line when opposition is attacking, boys straight line and line speed, also seen dopey Stinkson do a one on one legs tackle close to our line, and yes sharks player just passed it and try, that is inexcusable from a first grader.

 

[Dyldog]

A woollen condom would offer better defence.

Allan, Cotric or Avo should partner Naden in the centres next year..

Not a great defensive game but still had 17 hit ups for 126m.. a lot better than the other 3 outside backs. Still a kid learning his trade.. give him a break.

 

[King Gus]

Lol at this thread.
Schoupp is a young gun plenty of time for him to learn, unlike Okunbor who is just pure shit and won’t improve.

 

[Scoooby]

Because he runs hard... Okunbur for all his errors, was still a timid little bitch when hitting the ball up.

Yup. One f our best amongst a bad batch lol.

 

[Flanagun]

If you watch the Katoa try, clearly Okunbor just runs in off his wing for no reason hahahahah, wake up and watch the game

That’s not what happened at all. Some of you don’t have the faintest idea what you’re talking about.

 

[kungfuman]

100 percent. People just blame the wingers without noticing what’s happening inside them.

100% correct first two tries Okr had an 2 man overlap against him if he stays out big hole if he goes in winger scores ,I can't really blame Sch it was probably inside him that didn't slide it only takes one lazy prick!