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So true. Australians she'll be right mate. I'm alright Jack.It shits me to tears how many Australians care more about American politics than what's happening in our backyard.
So true. Australians she'll be right mate. I'm alright Jack.It shits me to tears how many Australians care more about American politics than what's happening in our backyard.
True. My stance has always been to vote on policy. I picked on Shorten 'cause I don't like the guy, but I still preferences Labor over Libs last election because Labor's policies more aligned with my own.Not aimed at you Natboy.
This isn't a fucking popularity contest, it's a contest of ideas and policy but Australians are so swamped with LNP bias and agenda that they forget to listen to actual policy or to research actual policy.
The amount of people I personally know who believed the entire Death Tax LIE last election is staggering. The amount of people who "don't really like Shorten" and voted as such is staggering. The scary thing is, most of these people I'm talking about would (in theory, based on policy) have been far better off with a Shorten government then this LNP one.
Yeah I've voted both ways but I can't see a world where I vote for the LNP in the foreseeable future with how they've handled stuff like the NBN etcTrue. My stance has always been to vote on policy. I picked on Shorten 'cause I don't like the guy, but I still preferences Labor over Libs last election because Labor's policies more aligned with my own.
But I'll always be a Centrist. I've never found one party that I can fully align with. Closest I have found is the Science party and they'll never be an influencial party.
I think it's because American politics is a show. Everything in America politics is all showmanship. It's all parading around ranting about things with passion. Meanwhile Australian politicians to the most part talk policy. There's soundbites and mottos but to the most part it's actual politics. Not the sham the Americans often push.It shits me to tears how many Australians care more about American politics than what's happening in our backyard.
In fairness Tony Abbott was our Trump and he garnered a lot of attention during his presidency. Even receiving honourable episode segments in American late night comedy showsIt shits me to tears how many Australians care more about American politics than what's happening in our backyard.
100% it's literally a Reality TV show at this point in timeI think it's because American politics is a show. Everything in America politics is all showmanship. It's all parading around ranting about things with passion. Meanwhile Australian politicians to the most part talk policy. There's soundbites and mottos but to the most part it's actual politics. Not the sham the Americans often push.
But that's not as interesting.
It’s definitely debatable. I think overall federal Labor have been supportive of the Libs actions with covid which bucks the trend of opposition on both sides being difficult for the sake of being difficult. If the the states border closures are anything to go by however, I think it would have been handled poorly economically and people would be on welfare for years to come which some like the idea ofThere were grounds for the Mediscare campaign when the LNP tried to outsource the payments aspect of Medicare, no?
Hard to say, I can't see a reason why they would have been worse or markedly better. I like to think the Economic Recovery Plan would have been handled better. Simply based on how some of the LNP aspects have been baffling and based on how Labour handled the GFC. What do you think?
Exactly why I requested this thread be created today. As someone that spends a lot of time in the U.S and have interests there I do follow U.S politics a bit but prefer to know what’s happening hereIt shits me to tears how many Australians care more about American politics than what's happening in our backyard.
Last time I was in the US my colleagues over there asked if Australians looked down on Americans due to Trump. I said, "we find it funny but we had a guy called Tony Abbott"In fairness Tony Abbott was our Trump and he garnered a lot of attention during his presidency. Even receiving honourable episode segments in American late night comedy shows
So given how much of a circus Trump was its hard to look away
Yeah for sure, as one of the Super Powers it's good to keep an eye on it and especially for people like you who have vested interests there - But I don't understand why it seems there are so many Australians who can tell me more about Pelosi and Cruz than Jim Chalmers and Sussan LeyExactly why I requested this thread be created today. As someone that spends a lot of time in the U.S and have interests there I do follow U.S politics a bit but prefer to know what’s happening here
There was also the Adani mine lie. They got wedged by both the liberals and the greens on that.Still waiting for my franking credits!
They have turned so many issues of national infrustructure, climate change, medibank etc into political footballs just for points of difference to sway voters.Yeah I've voted both ways but I can't see a world where I vote for the LNP in the foreseeable future with how they've handled stuff like the NBN etc
Saw a doco on the diesel subs the other day.I think the Liberal Party is still recovering from what Turnbull "achieved". Snowy 2, Diesel subs, NBN, The Guardian. The list goes on.
I remember hearing Alan Jones calling for it to be abandoned from the start. He kept up the fight but to no availSaw a doco on the diesel subs the other day.
What an expensive disaster that is going to turn out to be. The french dont even have any construction blueprints on how to convert their nuclear subs they use. They can't work out how to make it run undetected on diesel.
Still a decade away before we even get the first few.
China would knock them out in 20 minutes or less.
Yeah for sure, as one of the Super Powers it's good to keep an eye on it and especially for people like you who have vested interests there - But I don't understand why it seems there are so many Australians who can tell me more about Pelosi and Cruz than Jim Chalmers and Sussan Ley
Also there is more analysis of their politics.I think it's because American politics is a show. Everything in America politics is all showmanship. It's all parading around ranting about things with passion. Meanwhile Australian politicians to the most part talk policy. There's soundbites and mottos but to the most part it's actual politics. Not the sham the Americans often push.
But that's not as interesting.
Last electionThere's no forward planning or policies created for Australia's future...
Yes sorry I meant the current Govt. No forward planning.Last election
Renewable investment
Franking credits gone because we cant afford it anymore, the policy was even adjusted after protests from the public about it affecting lower incomes from dividends
Goneski
Cancer treatment
There was a few future planning policies there. People chose to vote against it
No one cares about barnabys scandals, that’s his life. He represents his constituency well. That’s all that mattersYes sorry I meant the current Govt. No forward planning.
Labor had ideas but they always get knocked down by Murdoch front page scare tactics.
A level of strangeness I found in voters was child care workers only get $23 p.h. and Labor proposed an immediate wage rise to put on level pegging with retail workers and some voted against their own interests and pay packet. Go figure. I might add this was in Barnaby Joyce's electorate who after all the scandals he was involved in, actually increased his majority lol
Examples please.No one cares about barnabys scandals, that’s his life. He represents his constituency well. That’s all that matters