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Oh it can, it just ain’t constitutional in America so it essentially illegal to discriminate like that. I just don’t see you ever discriminating against any religion besides Catholicism lol. So I’m just saying be consistent with your claims.
But also why can’t you admit you’re upset she may make murdering unborn babies illegal once again? “Any religion that needs money for survival is a scam”. So is state, national governments a scam? Is every single company from Apple to amazon to Telstra scammers? I mean money is essential for anyone or anything to survive in this world. I don’t get how you can sit there with a straight face thinking you’re smart yet say something like that lol
Bahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

So. If my wife had an abortion. Would she be charged for murder??? No. Murder is a legal definition. You can say "murdering unborn babies" all you like to add to the drama (like burning alters) typical theist.

And did you just compare the catholic church with a capitalist government and profit driven organisations?

Lol please.
 

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Bahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

So. If my wife had an abortion. Would she be charged for murder??? No. Murder is a legal definition. You can say "murdering unborn babies" all you like to add to the drama (like burning alters) typical theist.

And did you just compare the catholic church with a capitalist government and profit driven organisations?

Lol please.
Lol typical anti theists trying to change definitions, perform mental gymnastics to find loopholes to make murdering of unborn babies legal and not murder. I should add that babies are aborted at times during giving birth lol. But yeah still not murder aye. Why do you lefties lose your minds at the thought of having murdering unborn or being born babies made illegal again? It’s almost like you think your opinion is canonical law to natural selection.

Did you read the comment I responded to? It wasn’t me comparing the Catholic Church to a capitalist government or profit driven organisations, it was me questioning his logic on “any religion that needs money to survive is a scam”. My point is, that logic can be said about anything so essentially an illogical statement.
 

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In a time where everyone is inconsistent always changing their facts (opinions actually though) when it suits their agenda, people like me should be cherished staying with dam consistent with his facts (actual facts though)
I posted this to Dawgfather before but I'll do it again just for you...

 

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That’s fine, but most of you just pick a side and refuse to acknowledge information which doesn’t support your side of politics. E.g. the current Biden scandal.
No. We acknowledge the information but also see the flaws in the information as we're not blinded by our own bias.

That's why I said that the emails could be real and the whole situation could be real, but there's way too much contrary evidence to ignore.
 

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No. We acknowledge the information but also see the flaws in the information as we're not blinded by our own bias.

That's why I said that the emails could be real and the whole situation could be real, but there's way too much contrary evidence to ignore.
There has been zero curiosity in the Biden story with the exception of yourself. I do acknowledge you made a few comments that made me believe you are at least open to the scandal being entirely true.

the others have all taken their partisan side and are clinging tightly to it like a 2 year old to its Mum.
 

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No. We acknowledge the information but also see the flaws in the information as we're not blinded by our own bias.

That's why I said that the emails could be real and the whole situation could be real, but there's way too much contrary evidence to ignore.
What is the contrary evidence? That had better be something strong given there is a physical laptop, thousands of personal pictures, thousands of emails and thousands of texts.

Many of these emails have been verified by emailing the email Addresses and confirming that they had received the purported email at the time and dates indicated.

if some Of the owners of these emails have confirmed the details including time and date, how can it be false.
 

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If you are seriously comparing belief in a higher entity to a commercialised fantasy figure, you may be duller than I thought.
Belief is subjective. Neither have evidence to support them but you find belief in one to be completely illogical and belief in the other to be infallible.

This is why you can't understand the scientific process and why no one can have a logical conversation with you.

The logical stance is that you believe God exists but God may not exist. You don't believe Santa exists but he may exist. But both have equal amounts of evidence to support their existence.
 

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There has been zero curiosity in the Biden story with the exception of yourself. I do acknowledge you made a few comments that made me believe you are at least open to the scandal being entirely true.

the others have all taken their partisan side and are clinging tightly to it like a 2 year old to its Mum.
True. But I believe that's not so much the story. Rather it's who is pushing the story.
 

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What is the contrary evidence? That had better be something strong given there is a physical laptop, thousands of personal pictures, thousands of emails and thousands of texts.

Many of these emails have been verified by emailing the email Addresses and confirming that they had received the purported email at the time and dates indicated.

if some Of the owners of these emails have confirmed the details including time and date, how can it be false.
First point being, "physical laptop"

There has not yet been any confirmation that this laptop exists. It probably does but that's not evidence as it hasn't been confirmed yet.

The evidence I reference is the evidence that may suggest that your belief of the version of events is not accurate.

To be specific:

- FBI are currently investigating this whole thing under the stance that it very well may be orchestrated by Russian agents

- Disinformation experts stating that there's massive holes in the story which makes them think it's not as it seems

- The store owner contradicting himself constantly

- the main driver of this whole thing (Giuliani) having a past where he worked with a Russian agent in an attempt to attack Biden

It's not evidence it's fake. But it is plenty enough evidence to suggest that there's more to the story.

That's why ignoring the main factor. That being that none of the emails or messages released implicate Joe Biden in anything.
 

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Belief is subjective. Neither have evidence to support them but you find belief in one to be completely illogical and belief in the other to be infallible.

This is why you can't understand the scientific process and why no one can have a logical conversation with you.

The logical stance is that you believe God exists but God may not exist. You don't believe Santa exists but he may exist. But both have equal amounts of evidence to support their existence.
Sure Mr Partisan Scientist.

Im open to the Biden scandal being a fake but so far the issue has been lack of journalistic curiosity and investigation due to journalists (and most people) refusing to believe a bad story about any person who is up against Trump.
 

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First point being, "physical laptop"

There has not yet been any confirmation that this laptop exists. It probably does but that's not evidence as it hasn't been confirmed yet.

The evidence I reference is the evidence that may suggest that your belief of the version of events is not accurate.

To be specific:

- FBI are currently investigating this whole thing under the stance that it very well may be orchestrated by Russian agents

- Disinformation experts stating that there's massive holes in the story which makes them think it's not as it seems

- The store owner contradicting himself constantly

- the main driver of this whole thing (Giuliani) having a past where he worked with a Russian agent in an attempt to attack Biden

It's not evidence it's fake. But it is plenty enough evidence to suggest that there's more to the story.

That's why ignoring the main factor. That being that none of the emails or messages released implicate Joe Biden in anything.
They already implicate Biden. He’s on record saying he knew nothing about his sons business dealings. One of the emails show a meeting was organised between Burisma and Biden at the White House.
 

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Sure Mr Partisan Scientist.

Im open to the Biden scandal being a fake but so far the issue has been lack of journalistic curiosity and investigation due to journalists (and most people) refusing to believe a bad story about any person who is up against Trump.
It could be hard for them to report on it as the emails have only been given to the NY Post.

The only thing other sites can report on is that the NY Post is reporting on what they have.

Which is another thing. Why is it that the emails were only given to the extremely partisen, Pro-Trump NY Post?

The only one more pro-Trump than the NY Post is One News Network. Maybe One News is too partisen.
 

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They already implicate Biden. He’s on record saying he knew nothing about his sons business dealings. One of the emails show a meeting was organised between Burisma and Biden at the White House.
So you're saying if I emailed someone saying that you met with Bin Laden then you would be a terrorist?
 

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There has been zero curiosity in the Biden story with the exception of yourself. I do acknowledge you made a few comments that made me believe you are at least open to the scandal being entirely true.

the others have all taken their partisan side and are clinging tightly to it like a 2 year old to its Mum.
Another blatant lie from you. I have said multiple times Biden may be corrupt and have not ruled out the possibility there is truth to it. I just think it’s unlikely because Giuliani has been on a dirt digging mission for a long time, is known to have met with some very dodgy people and there appear to be a lot of holes and in the official story and it all seems too convenient. Also, because the FBI is aware of the situation and has announced an investigation into GIULIANI. It is YOU who is making out that it’s an open and shut case and the scandal has been proven to be true. You are the one treating the word of pro trump players (one who has been on an ongoing dirt digging mission for a long time now) as ironclad evidence. Just like the party you support, you are a master of projection.
 

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It could be hard for them to report on it as the emails have only been given to the NY Post.

The only thing other sites can report on is that the NY Post is reporting on what they have.

Which is another thing. Why is it that the emails were only given to the extremely partisen, Pro-Trump NY Post?

The only one more pro-Trump than the NY Post is One News Network. Maybe One News is too partisen.
This, this, this.

The emails are not confirmed as verified until it is actually investigated by a non-partisan group.

FFS being stupid enough to say that the email were verified because it was only checked by the trump campaign and news corpse.

As hacky has said multiple times, you have no fucking idea what evidence is
 
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