Barrett warned he could destroy his career at Bulldogs, Pay's final straw revealed

[KambahOne]

It's almost like he is cut because he hasn't been mentioned as an option...

I was thinking the same thing. Could this be Loz angling for the gig?

 

[justdogs]

NRL legend Laurie Daley has urged Trent Barrett to consider rejecting the Bulldogs coaching job, after a stunning condemnation of the club's infighting.

Daley said that Barrett, a Penrith assistant who has already had a failed stint coaching Manly, had one more chance as an NRL head coach and could ruin his career at last-placed Canterbury.

That damning verdict came after Nine NRL reporter Danny Weidler detailed the dark underbelly of the club, including the final straw for departing coach Dean Pay, who reportedly decided to quit midway through his third season in the job. Steve Georgallis was made interim coach after Pay's exit was made official by the club on Tuesday.

Weidler said that club great Pay had been shown "incredible disrespect" by the Bulldogs and knew the end was nigh when he was overruled on signing Josh Reynolds, a former Canterbury hero, despite a bottom-dollar bid.

The snub told Pay, a 1995 premiership-winning player for Canterbury, that he had little control over a poor roster that ultimately doomed his reign to failure.

Weidler said that Bulldogs chairwoman Lynne Anderson and football GM Steve Price, a club legend, had let down Pay and suggested they should follow him out the door.

Trent Barrett and Dean Pay. (Getty)
"I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen Dean Pay given another 12 months, given they've got some money at their disposal to be able to go out and chase some players," Daley said on Sky Sports Radio. "But obviously that's come to an end.

"I think the Bulldogs would be an attractive proposition for a coach if they didn't have all this boardroom drama going on. I think if you had that stability there and you knew you had the support, I think they'd be in a good position because they've got money available, they can go to the market, they can attract players.

"But with the ongoing behind-the-scenes noises, you couldn't say to someone with certainty, 'Go there'; because you don't know what's going to happen in 18 months time. You may not be the flavour of the month and you may be out of a job very quickly.

"If it's Trent, he's got one more opportunity. If he fails at his next job, well he's no longer going to be a first-grade coach. I think if he sits back and waits, he will get an opportunity somewhere down the path.

"A bit like [Sydney Roosters assistant] Craig Fitzgibbon. You don't have to be the person that puts their hand up for every job. You can sit back, think about where your future's going to lie, you're in a good system; Penrith will have success for the next five years, the way they're going with all these young players coming through.

"So I don't think he needs to rush into making a decision, just because it's the first available job. If I was him, if I was guiding him, I'd be saying, 'Mate, be very, very careful'.

"I just don't like it when people start to meddle in the affairs and then things get murky and there's no stability there whatsoever. Uncertainty. I can understand why the playing group aren't performing, too.

"I know as a player, you shouldn't worry about what goes on in the boardroom but you do. It's one of the first things you talk about; 'Who's the coach going to be? Are we still going to be here? What's the roster going to look like next year?'

Panthers assistant coach Trent Barrett with Nathan Cleary, before beating the Rabbitohs. (Getty)
Barrett heads a Bulldogs coaching hit-list that includes former NSW coach Daley, Queensland coach Kevin Walters, ex-Broncos and Panthers boss Anthony Griffin, plus England Rugby coach Eddie Jones, according to Weidler. The Bulldogs have asked Penrith's permission to speak with Barrett.

Daley replied that he he had "never spoken to anyone, no interest". Weidler said that he believed Walters held the same view.

The Nine NRL reporter gave a searing inside look at the Bulldogs.

"I do know Dean was increasingly frustrated with the way he was being treated by the Bulldogs club," Weidler said on Sky Sports Radio.

"You have to remember, Dean Pay was brought into the Bulldogs - the so-called family club - as a former great of the club, as the man to guide them through a difficult period.

"It looks to me though, unfortunately, that he's just been made a fall guy, a stop-gap, and he's been treated with incredible disrespect by the club.

"Yes, their results were not great but I don't think Dean Pay really had a chance at any point with the roster that he was given and the roster he had going forward.

"The final straw for Dean Pay was when he tried to recruit Josh Reynolds on minimal money for this year. Minimal money, and was not given the chance.

"Now, if that's going to happen, the coach is never really going to be given a chance and it's time for other people at that club to stand down and go.

"Why Dean Pay is the sole victim of what's been going on, I'll never know, but I can't see how that club can move forward with the likes of Lynne Anderson there as their chairperson, with their board there that's warring.

"It is a highly unattractive club and also they've got a guy who's in charge of their football, Steve Price, who along with Lynne Anderson who's let Dean Pay be the face of everything.

"I'm not particularly close to Dean Pay, a lot of other journos are, but I can say that he's handled himself well. I can also say that Lynne Anderson hasn't, nor has Steve Price. They've both been invisible people throughout this whole mess."

Departing Bulldogs coach Dean Pay. (Getty)
Weidler said that Pay, who led the Bulldogs to a pair of 12th-placed finishes before this season, was set up to fail. The club is set to claim its first wooden spoon since 2008 and Bulldogs premiership winner Johnathan Thurston has also branded Pay's supposed culpability "unfair", given he had limited say over the roster.

"He was put there in a situation that he couldn't win," Weidler said.

"His playing roster, with no disrespect to the players there, would be in the bottom three of the league without a question.

"I think he has been made the fall guy for poor management for years. There are now massive, massive dramas on their board and I don't see how any coach in their right mind would want to go and coach there without some guarantees of their future and guarantees that there won't be any kind of board interference from meddling people at the club, who are in it for their own reasons rather than the right reasons for the club.

"I don't know who's going to be on that board going forward in years to come but I do think they need to blow up the situation. I'm upset for Dean because whilst he may not be the best coach in the league, he's a decent person and he's been hung out to dry, really."

Ah well, Daley, who the fuck cares about your opinion

 

[Riggs80]

Funny thing is the point they bring up to slam the board and back Pay is actually incorrect , if anything shows the board has some sense and Pay has no clue on recruitment. I talk about Reynolds.

josh has been broken down for 2 years and old they want him to partner another broken down half .
Josh has been in the media for all the wrong things (acknowledging not his fault ) but can the dogs afford such negative media

Also the incident where he kicked a player in the head (albeit accidentally ) is not the player the club needs . So if he had done that same action on weekend on broncos he would be 2 weeks out , how would that help pay .

also sick of the campaign by media to force dogs to take him back , since basically first year of his tigers contract , he left for way overs , club has moved on simple

 

[sgodllubsti]

just another shit talking media c@#t that hates the bulldogs and always wants to keep them down

 

[CaptainJackson]

also sick of the campaign by media to force dogs to take him back , since basically first year of his tigers contract , he left for way overs , club has moved on simple

James hooper is a tigers fan and he wants reynolds salary off the Tigers cap.

Hooper began the reynolds to bulldogs story.

If tigers were stupid enough to pay that much to reynolds, its their problem

 

[maroondog72]

Just keep collecting money from corrupt betting agencies and destroying people’s lives Laurie and STFUP
Fuking scum bag

 

[froggy]

I agree with you agreeing.

Assistant coaches should not necessarily jump at a head coaching position just because it is head coach. Coaching the dogs is a poisoned chalice at the moment, no matter how much we think this "$3M war chest" is an attraction.

I disagree. Nearly every coaching job that becomes available is when the coach gets sacked. Therefore the team is already struggling hence why the sacking. There is rarely a job these coaches can wait for that has a perfect fit to it.

I actually think this is a great chance for a young coach. Apparently $3 million to spend, huge supporter base and massive Leagues Club backing. If the new coach can get it right recruitment wise this comp is not that strong and you could walk into the eight next year. Bring in 5 good players around what we have and a new style, who knows. Look at 2008 into 2009. Very similar.

 

[JackDog]

I disagree. Nearly every coaching job that becomes available is when the coach gets sacked. Therefore the team is already struggling hence why the sacking. There is rarely a job these coaches can wait for that has a perfect fit to it.

I actually think this is a great chance for a young coach. Apparently $3 million to spend, huge supporter base and massive Leagues Club backing. If the new coach can get it right recruitment wise this comp is not that strong and you could walk into the eight next year. Bring in 5 good players around what we have and a new style, who knows. Look at 2008 into 2009. Very similar.

What worries me is if the board refuses to let Barrett pick his players, particularly if he’s remaining at Pennies for the rest of the year.

 

[maroondog72]

It'll be tough this week and for the next few.

No Averillo, No Hoppa, No To'omonga (Possibly), No Elliott, No Smith (Suspended).

And no pay
And a lot of players suddenly not sure about their positions in the side, I am expecting a bit of fire in the belly from the side

 

[Nano]

Getting sick of that dean pay expresion picture they keep using tbh...

 

[Bulldogsteve]

My whole issue with this line "I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen Dean Pay given another 12 months, given they've got some money at their disposal to be able to go out and chase some players," is what if he screwed it up? We'd be set back 3-5 years.

We need someone with shrewd player management/recruitment skills with runs on the board, a $3M 'experiment' is a lot of money in anyones language.

you make a good point there, the new coach will have his roster and not take on Pays roster if pay only last another 12 months.
this way the selling point is, new coach, $3million, your team do live and die by.
i was a fan to give pay another 12 months but last week was the final straw, they were terrible in attack once again. Problem is the attacking coach is now the coach and we have lost our defensive coach.

 

[_G-Dog_]

All these positive articles will make it easy to secure a sponsor.. what a debable..

 

[Heckler]

We really never ever allocated a top line coach from scratch other than Hasler. All our coaches were training on the job and works in project. Wok was an exception as he was already established at Newtown.

Georgalis, Barrett, Dymoch, Ryles..?? FMD we really have slipped down the old shit shute as a club from Powerhouse to a bunch who get excited over an already failed assistant.

 

[c-b-b]

There's a reason Daley keeps giving quotes to newspapers, no one listens to the radio show he does and he's irrelevant.

 

[Bazildog]

We really never ever allocated a top line coach from scratch other than Hasler. All our coaches were training on the job and works in project. Wok was an exception as he was already established at Newtown.

Can you please stop responding to my nonsensical anger with facts and reason, I am in the middle of a solid rage and wish to stay there.

#heytrentwhataboutacareerinnfl

 

[Heckler]

Sorry lol. I'll leave you to it.

Can you please stop responding to my nonsensical anger with facts and reason, I am in the middle of a solid rage and wish to stay there.

#heytrentwhataboutacareerinnfl

 

[Psycho Doggie]

This so called news is meaningless in terms of whether Barrett or any other coach take the job. None of them are going to read the paper and go "right that's my mind made up". Anyone who is a serious contender is going to sit down with the CEO and board, they are going to want to see certain facts and figures, maybe have a chat with senior players. That is what they will base their decision on. And that is the real problem, because its hard to see how Hill, Price, and the Board are going to convince many people right now given how they treated Pay. One of my first questions if I was being interviewed about the job would be "how can you guarantee me that I won't get treated like Dean?"

Articles like this only exist to make the news provider money. About the only real effect they can have is making sponsors nervous (and all the decent sponsors should be being communicated sufficiently with by the club so this would be a non-issue anyway so long as the board is doing its job), and raising the BP levels of reactionary fans.

 

[Spoonman84]

This so called news is meaningless in terms of whether Barrett or any other coach take the job. None of them are going to read the paper and go "right that's my mind made up". Anyone who is a serious contender is going to sit down with the CEO and board, they are going to want to see certain facts and figures, maybe have a chat with senior players. That is what they will base their decision on. And that is the real problem, because its hard to see how Hill, Price, and the Board are going to convince many people right now given how they treated Pay. One of my first questions if I was being interviewed about the job would be "how can you guarantee me that I won't get treated like Dean?"

Articles like this only exist to make the news provider money. About the only real effect they can have is making sponsors nervous (and all the decent sponsors should be being communicated sufficiently with by the club so this would be a non-issue anyway so long as the board is doing its job), and raising the BP levels of reactionary fans.

You have some good points and at the end of the day there's only 16 head coaching jobs in the NRL and about half of those opportunities are locked up long term so you can't be too picky if you want a chance.

There is also a lot of freedom to do what you want with the roster and cap with only a handful of players contracted past 2021 and plenty of cap space to use as soon as you arrive.

Then you add in the financial clout of the Leagues Club and it's a really good opportunity for a potential coach and its certainly not as bad as many people in the media would have you believe.

 

[silva]

Lmao at Daley

 

[obje]

Nobody likes us boo hoo