News Folau case may send Rugby Australia broke.

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that you'll go to hell unless you post on Instagram telling others that they are going to hell.
That's more of a dis-service to their faith more than a service.

Just like those inbred Murikan ***** and their "God hates ****" signs. God hates the sin, not the sinner. If God hated sinners then there would be about 20 people in heaven.
 

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that you'll go to hell unless you post on Instagram telling others that they are going to hell.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 English Standard Version (ESV)

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


I’m Christian teaching there are only two eternal places after death. Heaven and Hell. So in the above passage from the Bible, if you are not inheriting the Kingdom of God(heaven) then there is only one other place you will spend eternity.

This passage doesn’t spell out the word “Hell” but in other places in the Bible the word “Hell” is mentioned 32 times.

Just saying
 

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Kind of. Most of them say, "Born this way". Suggesting that it's entirely genetic. Fact is that it's not that simple. Unfortunately there are many on the left-progressive area that would ignore the scientific evidence just as there's many on the right-conservative area that ignore the scientific evidence.
You are wrong there is no scientific evidence to prove homosexuality is genetic.

Like there is no scientific evidence to prove heterosexuality is genetic.

That's all I'm saying


Ps however there is evidence to prove that homosexuality is a choice... Look at women's prisons, men's prisons, instagram, pornhub or whatever it's called.
Having sexual relations with someone of the same sex is homosexual by definition. There are no known genetic factors distinguishing one from the other. Therefore homosexuality , at this stage ,is an act ...of choice.
 
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You are wrong there is no scientific evidence to prove homosexuality is genetic.

Like there is no scientific evidence to prove heterosexuality is genetic.

That's all I'm saying
What happens if a scientist and his brother are gay ? Would that not be scientific proof its genetic
 

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As I have said before, IMO Folau thought he was get away with what he posted because the RU World Cup is this year & he thought that he was needed.

He is a hypocrite.

This was only 5 years ago.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...t/news-story/b45c168ef2523cda96a757eedd60d69a

He changed faith in 2011.
I reakon he a closet gay and yearns for a dick in his mouth and is trying to fight his urges that conflict with his religious beliefs?
How else can he justify that peroxided fringe a while back?
See im onto something
 

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You are wrong there is no scientific evidence to prove homosexuality is genetic.

Like there is no scientific evidence to prove heterosexuality is genetic.

That's all I'm saying


Ps however there is evidence to prove that homosexuality is a choice... Look at women's prisons, men's prisons, instagram, pornhub or whatever it's called.
Having sexual relations with someone of the same sex is homosexual by definition. There are no known genetic factors distinguishing one from the other. Therefore homosexuality , at this stage ,is an act ...of choice.
Don't act like you don't know lol
 

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Haven't commented on Folau or this bullshit but I'll throw my 2 cents in...

Folau is not very smart and not a fisher of men that the Bible wants us to be. There are literally thousands of other passages he could of used to get his point across without sounding like a holier-than-thou loud mouth. If I were in his position, a simple quote like "Jesus loves and saves all" would be perfect.

PS with today's climate with Christians painted as the "bad guys" I would of love to see what the reaction would be if Folau were Muslim or Jew.
I think in that hypothetical scenario the athlete would cop a backlash that would be just as strong .... but it would probably be conservatives using the opportunity to bash and demonise the whole religion (especially in the case of Muslims).

It’s a bit of a misnomer that conservatives aren’t given a strong media voice in this country any more. You just need to watch channel 7, read the Murdoch press or listen to talkback radio for ample evidence of that. Conservatives often use treatment of gays in some Muslim nations as an excuse to argue about cultural incompatibility....

But it’s all hypothetical until a Muslim athlete who has signed a lucrative contract to play for a national sporting body is dumb enough to make a similar comment.

I often wonder why conservative commentators are quick to defend Christians for saying intolerant things about gay people, but equally quick to condemn Muslims who criticise and demean women for dressing in what they consider to be revealing clothing. Don’t both come down to religious freedom of speech? It seems conservatives are quick to defend free speech as long as the speaker represents a majority.

I think all people who use freedom of speech to belittle others should be criticised. That’s a natural extension of free speech in itself.
 

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To some people the Bible is never out of date. And some people would rather lose their job than sell their souls to the devil and risk living in eternity without God. Simple as that.

IMO both atheists and the followers of a religion both have faith. It actually requires much more faith to not believe in God. It is actually a great leap of faith to look around the world we live in with all the living organisms and make a bold statement that these organisms do not have a creator. What such great faith!
Thou shalt not miss the opportunity to criticise gay people on social media- the lost commandment.
 

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That's more of a dis-service to their faith more than a service.

Just like those inbred Murikan ***** and their "God hates ****" signs. God hates the sin, not the sinner. If God hated sinners then there would be about 20 people in heaven.
A large amount of Americans actually think Jesus was American so there's no saving them.
 

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 English Standard Version (ESV)

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


I’m Christian teaching there are only two eternal places after death. Heaven and Hell. So in the above passage from the Bible, if you are not inheriting the Kingdom of God(heaven) then there is only one other place you will spend eternity.

This passage doesn’t spell out the word “Hell” but in other places in the Bible the word “Hell” is mentioned 32 times.

Just saying
Yep. That was said by Paul in a letter. He technically never said homosexuals but that's another debate altogether. But as i said. It's Paul saying, "these people won't go to hell". Not, "you'll go to hell if you don't go around repeating what I say to these people"

I understand spreading the teachings and beliefs. But when the teachings aren't wanted and you keep doing it, that's not being a good Christian. That's harassment.

I had a similar thing happen today. Right before I went to vote I had some Jehovah's witnesses come to my house. I said to them, "I've read your magazine and the bible and its interesting but it's not for me". They said, "that's quite alright. Thanks for chatting with us"

It's simple respect. You have to remember that your religion is your religion and not everyone else's religion. So when a Christian constantly tells other people that they are wrong then that Christian isn't showing respect. He's just showing arrogance.
 

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You are wrong there is no scientific evidence to prove homosexuality is genetic.

Like there is no scientific evidence to prove heterosexuality is genetic.

That's all I'm saying


Ps however there is evidence to prove that homosexuality is a choice... Look at women's prisons, men's prisons, instagram, pornhub or whatever it's called.
Having sexual relations with someone of the same sex is homosexual by definition. There are no known genetic factors distinguishing one from the other. Therefore homosexuality , at this stage ,is an act ...of choice.
I literally shared scientific articles showing a genetic link to homosexuality. Each article had links to peer reviewed research supporting it. And you ignored it.

As I said on the post a few pages back. Read the research, not a right wing anti-gay blog.
 

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BTW, for anyone curious, here's the latest research on the genetics of homosexuality

https://ep70.eventpilot.us/web/page.php?nav=false&page=IntHtml&project=ASHG18&id=180120617

"Twin and family studies have shown that sexual orientation is in part genetically influenced (~40% narrow-sense heritability), but previous efforts to identify the specific genes involved have been unsuccessful due to a lack of power.....

... We found 4 genome-wide significant loci for non-heterosexual behavior and 40 loci for the number of opposite-sex partners in heterosexual. "
 

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Latest on the case. :

- during the whole process Folau said that if his faith and post will cause problems for Rugby Australia and its sponsors then he'll walk away

- after losing he has now changed his mind and plans to appeal and if that fails, then he'll sue

- he has many legal backers that will sponsors his case, but they're trying to filter their sponsorship through the church to avoid paying tax. The ATO is now investigating it
 
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Yep. That was said by Paul in a letter. He technically never said homosexuals but that's another debate altogether. But as i said. It's Paul saying, "these people won't go to hell". Not, "you'll go to hell if you don't go around repeating what I say to these people"

I understand spreading the teachings and beliefs. But when the teachings aren't wanted and you keep doing it, that's not being a good Christian. That's harassment.

I had a similar thing happen today. Right before I went to vote I had some Jehovah's witnesses come to my house. I said to them, "I've read your magazine and the bible and its interesting but it's not for me". They said, "that's quite alright. Thanks for chatting with us"

It's simple respect. You have to remember that your religion is your religion and not everyone else's religion. So when a Christian constantly tells other people that they are wrong then that Christian isn't showing respect. He's just showing arrogance.
The thing is he isn’t forcing people to follow him on IG. He’s putting what he wants on his personal account. If people don’t like it then simply don’t follow him, it’s not like people NEED to be subjected to what he posts on there.
 
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