The actual problem at Canterbury

True Blue

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The constant shit bagging severely affects our branding. If it continues to be continually trashed by Murdoch press, the clubs loyal supporter base of stalwards we have, like you and I, will eventually die out unless replenished by young parents and their youngsters but they want to support a successful team they can havepride in....not one who is always being bagged from pillar to post by Newscorpse media via DT, Buzz, Crawlie, etc.

Normal unfavourable artiicles are part and parcel of league news but no other team cops the kind of latent racial or moral values type of hounding we do and we can see this with the ramping up by Drunkfield against Gus using the club.
Hard to disagree Wendog. The Murdoch press has been at the bulldogs for years and they just do not like our culture.......their continued harassment of the club is vitally different to any commentary on other clubs. Why are the stories continuing to be played out?........they simply want to destabilize our brand and reduce us to a lowly position. We need to resist this approach and stick up with club even through hard times.

One question no one has raised yet to my knowledge is to do with the timing of these leaks, particularly on a team that is not going to be going past Round 27. What was the press carrying on about immediately before this story dropped........The big internal issues at the Rabbitohs....Assistant coaches and some players not at ease with the way the head coach was doing his job. That story could easily continued in the press and caused great distress to the NRL with one of their favoured teams under the pump.

How do you fix that problem? Start leaking negative info about one of the least favoured sides and keep the story in the headlines as long as possible. No one is now questioning or looking at the internal issues of the Rabbitohs!

Call me a conspiracy theorist if need be, but I will wear that badge because I firmly believe the above scenario. Once a bulldog always a bulldog.....stick firmly with the club....ask questions for sure, but stay loyal.
 

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All jokes aside, our problems are...

No spine
Weak pack
Loser mentality
An assistant pretending to be a coach
A GM that's great at pathways but rubbish in FG
A team that don't respect or fear their "coach"
Shirt grabbing lazy defenders
Agree with most of this. Dont agree with the Coach being an Assistant. I think he proved that at Penrith.
The main problem is that a lot of players do not want to come to Belmore.
 

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Our problem is years of shit recruitment and no development. Good players make any coach look good.
 

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Nasheed here.
Here’s a tip.
Understand the bulldogs aren’t a powerhouse anymore.
We are an also ran Sydney team wit no strategic value to the NRL.
We have aggressive fans. We are in a lo socioeconomic area. Our territory is easily eaten by the tigers /parra/ sharks. Our junior nursery is among the 3 lowest.
once you accept it - life is easier
Adopt a second team. Support both equally.
The doggs will have success again. This is 100% true but it’ll be fleeting and not sustained.
We can’t identify the importance of a spine u Bes believe we can not navigate our way out of this paper bag.it’ll coke and go. Fleeting. Accept it. Enjoy it. Love Lebanon.
There's alot more money in Bankstown than Mount Druitt
 

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MNy ppl has mentioned this so if I’m dumb so is the kennel.
We are not in the nrl interests. We would be along the first to go in a Sydney purge
Bullshit.

We are one of the richest clubs with a huge supporter base.

How could they get rid of us without hurting themselves.
 

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Bullshit.

We are one of the richest clubs with a huge supporter base.

How could they get rid of us without hurting themselves.
We r rich because leb/azn drug dealers launder money through the club. As per the state report Las week.
How does that pokie money help the nrl?
The supporter base is the issue you’re right. They are rusted on so will keep us around as cellar dwellers to satisfy the demand and give broncos someone to flog hard
 

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We r rich because leb/azn drug dealers launder money through the club. As per the state report Las week.
How does that pokie money help the nrl?
The supporter base is the issue you’re right. They are rusted on so will keep us around as cellar dwellers to satisfy the demand and give broncos someone to flog hard
Rubbish
 

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We r rich because leb/azn drug dealers launder money through the club. As per the state report Las week.
How does that pokie money help the nrl?
The supporter base is the issue you’re right. They are rusted on so will keep us around as cellar dwellers to satisfy the demand and give broncos someone to flog hard
So you think being a rich club doesn't help?

A rich club should be kicked out so they can keep a poor club that could go broke?

Do you actually think before you make dumbarse comments?
 

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Dogs at war: Players need to take the fight to opposition, not each other!

The Sydney Morning Herald
✍ Adrian Proszenko

When Cameron Ciraldo first arrived at Belmore, he would make his players carry a television set onto the field before training sessions.

It wasn’t one of those new-fangled, flat-screen models either; this was a relic of the past, a vintage model that wouldn’t have been out of place in a museum. An old-school telly, inscribed with old-school values.

“It’s like this 1950s old TV with a big box on the back,” a Canterbury player said. “It’s got the terms and conditions of being a part of this group on it. It’s about not complaining about long days, making sure everyone is working hard and that setbacks and sacrifices are part of the journey, to embrace them and help each other out through them.”

As a disastrous season draws to a close, the first with Ciraldo in charge, it’s clear his players aren’t all on the same channel. During the week, Bulldogs supremo Phil Gould labelled the blue and whites “the worst team in the competition right now”.

It is difficult to argue. A club bolstered by the arrival of Reed Mahoney, Viliame Kikau, Ryan Sutton and the game’s hottest young coach has gone backwards. As an assistant at the Panthers, Ciraldo built a wall that was seldom breached. Now he’s overseeing one of the worst defences of all time.

The Bulldogs have already leaked 735 points, currently the 19th poorest record in the NRL era. It will likely get worse. If they concede the 35 points they have been averaging this season against the Titans on Sunday, they will finish as the 12th worst on the list.

Ciraldo’s approach to fixing the issue has come under the spotlight. When a player turned up late to training six weeks ago, he was made to wrestle every member of the squad. Whether it was an appropriate punishment or a hazing ritual gone wrong depends on who you speak to.

Some teammates felt the tardy player was “soft”. Others were reluctant to participate in what they felt was an unnecessary pile-on. The incident has reportedly left the player broken and has the potential to further splinter the group.

It has raised questions over whether Ciraldo is driving his charges too hard, only a week after South Sydney were accused of handling their superstars with kid gloves.

When you give the players and outsiders a say in how hard or tough sessions should be you have lost the plot as they will always take the easy option, or most will anyway,” said Steve Nance, a strength and conditioning coach who has spent three decades overseeing numerous NRL teams, as well as the 1999 World Cup-winning Wallabies.

The Bulldogs train at Belmore during the week. KATE GERAGHTY
One can only wonder what the club’s former hard-nosed trainer, Billy Johnstone, would make of it all.

The “family club” is at yet another crossroads. When Canterbury won its last premiership, way back in 2004, the mantra was: “Train hard. Play hard. Party hard.”

At least two of those elements are missing from the current squad. When Sonny Bill Williams addressed the players prior to their first game of the season, marking the first time he returned to Belmore since his acrimonious departure, his message was simple.

“To get greatness like we did in 2004, we were all aligned in our thinking, that it was all or nothing,” Williams told the current group. “This was the cause and we dedicated ourselves wholeheartedly to it.”

The class of 2023 hasn’t embraced that ethos. The form of the senior stars, those tasked with setting the standards, has deteriorated as the season has progressed. Mahoney, Kikau, Matt Burton and Josh Addo-Carr aren’t playing up to their pay cheques, while the enigmatic Tevita Pangai Junior is now searching for consistency in the boxing ring.

Also gone is the one man who epitomises the Canterbury culture like no other. Josh Reynolds made a career out of pushing his body to the limit, but it finally failed him. Ciraldo handed the former NSW playmaker a lifeline in the hope his infectious enthusiasm would rub off on his peers, but he wasn’t able to last the season.

Yet the club’s biggest failing has been an inability to sign or develop a halfback. The Bulldogs pulled out of the race to sign Mitchell Moses, made clandestine overtures to Cameron Munster, went cold on Jayden Sullivan and continue to flirt with Ben Hunt. They paid a $500,000 transfer fee to poach Karl Oloapu from Brisbane in the belief he would be their long-term No.7, only to discover he is a back-rower.

At one point, the major sponsor was considering trying to throw in a pub as a sweetener for a prospective playmaker. Eventually, the blue and whites settled for Toby Sexton. The former Titan has done a serviceable job, but it feels like yet another stop-gap solution.

All the while, other players are bought and traded while the underlying issues remain. Some of the purchases, most notably Bronson Xerri, are speculative. The only genuine superstar joining next year is Stephen Crichton. Whether he can carry his form from a strong club to a struggling one, while making the transition to fullback, remains to be seen.

The patience of Canterbury fans can only extend for so long. It took only 116 signatures from card-carrying members to overthrow the last board. The fate of the current one will be decided at the ballot box in February.

It’s cut-throat if you’re the coach as well. In May of last year, Gould boldly declared “Trent Barrett will be the coach of the Bulldogs long after I’m gone.” A fortnight later, Barrett was out the door. Ciraldo will need to comfort himself with whatever security a five-year contract can offer.
 

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Has anyone have access to Danny Weidler's article from yesterday?
 

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Buzz and his chronies, everytime they launch a Bulldogs article

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We need to stay connected and trust the process. No matter how much shit the fake news media spins.
 

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Look, there are certain clubs that can buy their way to the top, they have the very rich the famous and the powerful to back them up, the Nrl lick that chit up, as do all sports around the world, it obviously draws more money ratings power and attention their way … what goes on behind closed doors that the Nrl signs off on to keep those particular clubs strong we have no idea about … to me the Roosters roster is proof of this …

Greenburg, Hasler Dib Castle and Co. dropped our DNA our culture our development and junior pathways to try and make us one of those types of clubs … it failed, we didn’t have the powerful names behind us to leverage us position, and I believe that those that did, helped to kept us down … proof here is the disgraceful way the Nrl let Souths run riot over us GF day back in 2014, that game was decided before it began.

Some clubs are just meant to be development clubs, Gould knows this, and the Panthers after being cellar dwellers for so many years are proof that it still works better than buying … we may not like the Panthers but they’re a stab in the eye to those rich favoured clubs that buy their premierships.

Fans need to remember, back in the day we were winning every game and doing what the Panthers are doing now back when the Panthers wished they were us …

I feel the club is no longer delusional, we now acknowledge we’re a development club, plans have been put in place to get our production line of talent back to where it once was …. It’ll take time, but it’ll work, because if you think about it, Bullfrog and this club basically invented it, but the more it’s disrupted with GM coach and board changes, the longer it’ll take … trust in the long term process …
The club needs stability more than ever, many positive things are in place now and working hard. Many people from all walks of life will understand, businesses and sport. Even I've been a part of continually losing teams season after season, that developed into successful teams, a lot of it is just from setting the foundations, commitment, and hard work. As long as the players and fans buy into it.
There will be media and small backlashes, losses, personal issues, disrupting the unity but everyone within and supporting the club needs to keep at it.
 
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