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Head Coach Cameron Ciraldo has updated his squad ahead of Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldog's meeting with defending Premiers, Penrith Panthers at their home ground in BlueBet Stadium this Sunday.

Forwards Viliame Kikau and Chris Patolo, along with winger Josh Addo-Carr have been omitted from the game day line-up 24-hours out from kick off.


Head Coach Cameron Ciraldo will meet his former side for the first time since assuming the position at Canterbury and will have to face the Premiers with an injury-depleted side.

Toby Sexton remains unavailable due a head knock sustained in Round 20, with Kyle Flanagan starting in his place and Harrison Edwards coming in on the bench.
 

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Mahoney hasn't been ruled out yet so there's no point getting worked up about anything that stems from that just yet.

There's enough anger and frustration in this place without dreaming up possible scenarios if he is ruled out.

It's going to be a very tough Sunday afternoon but the grandson is coming with me tomorrow and his scoring always makes me feel better. At the end of last week's game, he turned to me and said 'we won by four!'. I just nodded.
 

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Kikau's Panthers face-off on ice until 2024


Canterbury recruit Viliame Kikau will have to wait until next season for his first clash against former club Penrith after failing to overcome his pectoral injury in time for Sunday.

Kikau arrived at the rebuilding Bulldogs to considerable fanfare in the off-season but suffered his long-term injury at training only four games into his four-year contract.

The Fijian international has been sidelined since mid-April, though had been considered a chance to return in time to face the Panthers, where he played 123 games including the 2021 and 2022 grand finals victories.


But Kikau fell at the last hurdle, unable to clear strength and contact training drills at Canterbury's final training session on Saturday morning.

He was omitted from Cameron Ciraldo's game-day squad along with State of Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr, whose hamstring injury will sideline him for at least another week.


Ciraldo was the architect of Penrith's dual premiership-winning defence prior to arriving at the Bulldogs for his first head-coaching job this season.

But the Panthers' system has not yet worked for Canterbury, who have conceded more points this season than any other side and came into the weekend in 14th place on the ladder.

The Bulldogs have leaked 190 points across their last four games, only 28 fewer than Penrith have conceded all season.

Canterbury have found it particularly difficult to stop tries from close range and in the middle of the park, areas that were again cause for concern in last week's 44-24 loss to an understrength Brisbane.

They cannot afford a repeat when they meet the Panthers, who welcome back their Origin players and Nathan Cleary and whose middle forwards are among the most ruthless in the competition.

But Ciraldo is prepared to remain patient with his young side and will not turn up the volume to get his message across.

"Spraying people isn't going to help our situation right now," he said.

"It's about trying to help our team become better, about trying to help individuals become better every day.

"With that sometimes it does get frustrating but if you put yourself in their shoes, what do they need to get better and what does our team need to get better?

"A lot of the time spraying is not going to help."

Ciraldo was confident the Bulldogs would eventually take to the defensive tools and tricks he administered at Penrith.

"This weekend, it's system against system," he said.

"It's the same system but there's a group there that's been doing it longer and has learned to love defence.

"That's where our group needs to get to, they need to learn to love defence. Once they get that, those sorts of system errors take care of themselves. We're on a journey to get to that point."
 

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Kikau's Panthers face-off on ice until 2024


Canterbury recruit Viliame Kikau will have to wait until next season for his first clash against former club Penrith after failing to overcome his pectoral injury in time for Sunday.

Kikau arrived at the rebuilding Bulldogs to considerable fanfare in the off-season but suffered his long-term injury at training only four games into his four-year contract.

The Fijian international has been sidelined since mid-April, though had been considered a chance to return in time to face the Panthers, where he played 123 games including the 2021 and 2022 grand finals victories.


But Kikau fell at the last hurdle, unable to clear strength and contact training drills at Canterbury's final training session on Saturday morning.

He was omitted from Cameron Ciraldo's game-day squad along with State of Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr, whose hamstring injury will sideline him for at least another week.


Ciraldo was the architect of Penrith's dual premiership-winning defence prior to arriving at the Bulldogs for his first head-coaching job this season.

But the Panthers' system has not yet worked for Canterbury, who have conceded more points this season than any other side and came into the weekend in 14th place on the ladder.

The Bulldogs have leaked 190 points across their last four games, only 28 fewer than Penrith have conceded all season.

Canterbury have found it particularly difficult to stop tries from close range and in the middle of the park, areas that were again cause for concern in last week's 44-24 loss to an understrength Brisbane.

They cannot afford a repeat when they meet the Panthers, who welcome back their Origin players and Nathan Cleary and whose middle forwards are among the most ruthless in the competition.

But Ciraldo is prepared to remain patient with his young side and will not turn up the volume to get his message across.

"Spraying people isn't going to help our situation right now," he said.

"It's about trying to help our team become better, about trying to help individuals become better every day.

"With that sometimes it does get frustrating but if you put yourself in their shoes, what do they need to get better and what does our team need to get better?

"A lot of the time spraying is not going to help."

Ciraldo was confident the Bulldogs would eventually take to the defensive tools and tricks he administered at Penrith.

"This weekend, it's system against system," he said.

"It's the same system but there's a group there that's been doing it longer and has learned to love defence.

"That's where our group needs to get to, they need to learn to love defence. Once they get that, those sorts of system errors take care of themselves. We're on a journey to get to that point."
We have a system ?
 

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Kikau's Panthers face-off on ice until 2024


Canterbury recruit Viliame Kikau will have to wait until next season for his first clash against former club Penrith after failing to overcome his pectoral injury in time for Sunday.

Kikau arrived at the rebuilding Bulldogs to considerable fanfare in the off-season but suffered his long-term injury at training only four games into his four-year contract.

The Fijian international has been sidelined since mid-April, though had been considered a chance to return in time to face the Panthers, where he played 123 games including the 2021 and 2022 grand finals victories.


But Kikau fell at the last hurdle, unable to clear strength and contact training drills at Canterbury's final training session on Saturday morning.

He was omitted from Cameron Ciraldo's game-day squad along with State of Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr, whose hamstring injury will sideline him for at least another week.


Ciraldo was the architect of Penrith's dual premiership-winning defence prior to arriving at the Bulldogs for his first head-coaching job this season.

But the Panthers' system has not yet worked for Canterbury, who have conceded more points this season than any other side and came into the weekend in 14th place on the ladder.

The Bulldogs have leaked 190 points across their last four games, only 28 fewer than Penrith have conceded all season.

Canterbury have found it particularly difficult to stop tries from close range and in the middle of the park, areas that were again cause for concern in last week's 44-24 loss to an understrength Brisbane.

They cannot afford a repeat when they meet the Panthers, who welcome back their Origin players and Nathan Cleary and whose middle forwards are among the most ruthless in the competition.

But Ciraldo is prepared to remain patient with his young side and will not turn up the volume to get his message across.

"Spraying people isn't going to help our situation right now," he said.

"It's about trying to help our team become better, about trying to help individuals become better every day.

"With that sometimes it does get frustrating but if you put yourself in their shoes, what do they need to get better and what does our team need to get better?

"A lot of the time spraying is not going to help."

Ciraldo was confident the Bulldogs would eventually take to the defensive tools and tricks he administered at Penrith.

"This weekend, it's system against system," he said.

"It's the same system but there's a group there that's been doing it longer and has learned to love defence.

"That's where our group needs to get to, they need to learn to love defence. Once they get that, those sorts of system errors take care of themselves. We're on a journey to get to that point."
This system

Webster at the warriors had a back handed comment by saying he deliberately left all of the panthers systems in Australia cos cookie cutter coaching doesn’t work (words to that effect)
 

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This system

Webster at the warriors had a back handed comment by saying he deliberately left all of the panthers systems in Australia cos cookie cutter coaching doesn’t work (words to that effect)
Spot on. Webster the pick of the panther assistants seems like a switched on operator.
Both t Baz and ciraldo have tried to implement the panthers handbook at the dogs rather than creating their own brand and playing to our squads strengths albeit we have a squad with significant limitations.
 

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Spot on. Webster the pick of the panther assistants seems like a switched on operator.
Both t Baz and ciraldo have tried to implement the panthers handbook at the dogs rather than creating their own brand and playing to our squads strengths albeit we have a squad with significant limitations.
The worrying thing is he’s quoted as saying admitting it’s the same system !!
 

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If Mahoney is out, Topine to 9, Okunbor to edge and Hughes onto bench.
 

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Why bother naming kiks and fox they were never going to make it if they weren’t fit on Tuesday
This was to improve the Dogs odds with the betting agencies, Penrith to win will now drop from 1.02 to 1.01 and and Dogs to win will now go from $17 to $170, is my guess. Gamble responsibilly of course .... by choosing Penrith at 1.01. This is going to be fun ....
 

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No kikau or JAC fkn lol. I was gonna say I don’t think we were going to get decimated to the point of 50+ taking into consideration how much we are paying and in general a written of team shows some heart usually. Take out those two however heads drop and we’re as exposed as last week this is going to be the lowest point in our history. Penrith won’t be sympathetic at all and will go hard the whole 80 this is just depressing I love the club even when you know it’s about to get ugly it hurts.
 
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