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OK, time to admit I was wrong. Montoya today really stamped himself as a strong winger. He showed pace I haven't seen before, some of his defence was almost Haz like in its timing and he ran strongly all game. He was rightly rewarded with a try at the end. He is now in my view streets ahead of Holland who I would think from here on in will only ever be a FG fill in, which is OK. He's safe but in comparison with the effort of Montoya today, pedestrian.
 
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Oatley Dog said:
OK, time to admit I was wrong. Montoya today really stamped himself as a strong winger. He showed pace I haven't seen before, some of his defence was almost Haz like in its timing and he ran strongly all game. He was rightly rewarded with a try at the end. He is now in my view streets ahead of Holland who I would think from here on in will only ever be a FG fill in, which is OK. He's safe but in comparison with the effort of Montoya today, pedestrian.
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I think it just took him time to get used to first grade. He really showed great intent when running the football back and was good defensively also. A future FG fullback I'd say
 
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Montoya shouldn't ever be playing anything else besides NRL again.
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Have to agree, based on todays effort. He was almost the equal of BMoz today and he all but made a line break today that would've given him another try. It was very impressive watching him off the ball as well. Full credit to him. He is only going to get better.
 
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Have to agree, based on todays effort. He was almost the equal of BMoz today and he all but made a line break today that would've given him another try. It was very impressive watching him off the ball as well. Full credit to him. He is only going to get better.
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He's one of those players where you just sense something's going to happen. He's only played a few games but he would be one of the best players in the air.
 
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Oatley Dog said:
OK, time to admit I was wrong. Montoya today really stamped himself as a strong winger. He showed pace I haven't seen before, some of his defence was almost Haz like in its timing and he ran strongly all game. He was rightly rewarded with a try at the end. He is now in my view streets ahead of Holland who I would think from here on in will only ever be a FG fill in, which is OK. He's safe but in comparison with the effort of Montoya today, pedestrian.
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Mate he has played that good in almost every game he has played, where as holland has showed nothing since last year. I was surprised you put them on the same level.
 
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He is a must. Local junior also, loves the club.. I think he could be pretty special. Love watching him play, actually get excited when he has the ball..
 
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Oatley Dog said:
OK, time to admit I was wrong. Montoya today really stamped himself as a strong winger. He showed pace I haven't seen before, some of his defence was almost Haz like in its timing and he ran strongly all game. He was rightly rewarded with a try at the end. He is now in my view streets ahead of Holland who I would think from here on in will only ever be a FG fill in, which is OK. He's safe but in comparison with the effort of Montoya today, pedestrian.
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Wait what? You actually thought Holland was a better winger at one point?

Holland is slow, lacks skill and cannot defend.

All he offers is goal kicking.
 
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Phalangist said:
Mate he has played that good in almost every game he has played, where as holland has showed nothing since last year. I was surprised you put them on the same level.
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Not sure about that. I thought today Montoya stood up and staked a claim to be a permanent winger in our team. He's done some good things and some ordinary things in previous weeks but today he showed speed for the first time in FG and was impressive. I just thought that prior to this game he hadn't done that and so was really not that different to Holland. Today he showed me at least that he is a grade above and good on him.
 
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It's so nice to know we don't have midget wingers anymore who get exposed by a single kick to the corner. Montoya has taken some difficult contested balls already and looks so safe. Abbey could learn a thing or two from Montoya about taking your chance when promoted to FG
 
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Wait what? You actually thought Holland was a better winger at one point?

Holland is slow, lacks skill and cannot defend.

All he offers is goal kicking.
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No I didn't think he was better I just held the view that he wasn't showing anything more than Holland was and Holland was kicking goals. I agreed with everyone that on potential no doubt Montoya was better but until today he really hadn't made a line break where he showed speed. Today he did.
 
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Oatley Dog said:
OK, time to admit I was wrong. Montoya today really stamped himself as a strong winger. He showed pace I haven't seen before, some of his defence was almost Haz like in its timing and he ran strongly all game. He was rightly rewarded with a try at the end. He is now in my view streets ahead of Holland who I would think from here on in will only ever be a FG fill in, which is OK. He's safe but in comparison with the effort of Montoya today, pedestrian.
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I apreciate when people acknowledge their mistakes in regards to player judgement. Good on you. Lol
MMontoya has shown way more in every game then holland has though in my opinion.
 
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Really impressed so far with the very limited amount I've seen of Montoya.

Begs the question now that if we have re-signed Holland will he be back in the team. If not could be salary cap money burned. Hoping we have Montoya already locked in and not off contract. Anyone know the situation there?
 
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Really impressed so far with the very limited amount I've seen of Montoya.

Begs the question now that if we have re-signed Holland will he be back in the team. If not could be salary cap money burned. Hoping we have Montoya already locked in and not off contract. Anyone know the situation there?
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Montoya just resigned 3 years
 
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Good thing Des kept dropping him for Holland.

Thankfully he finally picked Montoya again, who has been impressive all season and should never have been dropped.

Today was his best game in first grade and for me he and Adam Elliot were the only positives to come out of the game today as it's about time some juniors got given a chance.

Now just drop kasiano and Eastwood while you're at it!
 
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Wait did people actually want holland over Montoya? Wtf lol
 
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