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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
 

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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
And that’s why I hate the six again so much, no one knows what the fuck they are for including the reff
 

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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
It was leg up central. Also everything came off for the roosters whereas we had to work hard for our points. Their momentum started with cheap penalties when we hit 18-0. Wet weather negated the missing man. They looked better with Manu at fb. I’m pretty sure we lost to a 12 man canberra a few years back after leading for most of the match.
 

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They slow us down with no 6 again, we make a normal tackle and they get a 6 again, in their 10m they had 4 sets in a row which resulted in a try.

The rule is being treated as a discression rather than a rule and thats why it needs to stop, you can't rule it for slowing down the ruck but not award it later for the samething too the opposing team.

Worst rule change to the game in a long time.
 

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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
Chooks had something like 70% possession in the second half. If you have the ball, being a man down is not a problem.

But, we failed to make use of the overlap. For some reason the Dogs wanted to take on the Roosters forwards, instead of getting the ball out to our backs.
 

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When refs are doing this against us we need to actually slow down the play the balls even if it gives away a penalty - as the Storm do. I remember reading stats about them giving away the most 6 agains last year or the year before and obviously they were purposely doing it to give their defence a bit more time to recover and keep out more tries.
 

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Chooks had something like 70% possession in the second half. If you have the ball, being a man down is not a problem.

But, we failed to make use of the overlap. For some reason the Dogs wanted to take on the Roosters forwards, instead of getting the ball out to our backs.
Yes just showed our halves have no brains. How can any decent half not know to make use of such an overlap (numbers) on the edges
 

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When refs are doing this against us we need to actually slow down the play the balls even if it gives away a penalty - as the Storm do. I remember reading stats about them giving away the most 6 agains last year or the year before and obviously they were purposely doing it to give their defence a bit more time to recover and keep out more tries.
Storm can get away with it. We'd have someone binned.
 

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I agree they definitely got leg ups in the 2nd half. But that tends to happen when a team is down to less players, the 50/50 calls go their way. On balance, I actually think the game was refereed ok for once, believe me we got a few calls too that could’ve easily went the other way.

The reality is we need to be better when momentum swings. It’s happened so often with this team over the years and it’s down to a lack of experience in some key positions. Some of the Roosters tries were so soft in the 2nd half, we need to learn from it.
 

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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
Nice work Alan.
Amazing stats that our guys had to overcome.
 

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I recall a period of 15 minutes or so where I realised we had not even had the ball - it was so strange - it was like watching a Roosters win simulation game. The 6 agains were so rapid, I felt I was in a Vegas Casino slot machine section. The commentators had no clue what the 6 agains are for and they have full view of the game. Hughes gets penalised for slamming a hard running aggressive Sualli - anyone who wants to be aggressive can’t be gently treated FFS.

We were not allowed to turn the momentum back in our favour - it was relentless.
 

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There is no doubt this game was stage managed. I said so as it was happening.
referees need to allow a game to follow its natural course. It’s not their job to keep games interesting.
It's not even about keeping it interesting, it's all about maximising profit or minimising loss for the owners of the league AKA betting agencies.
 

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Ok we got a messy win and all. I not long watched it on you tube. Obviously we were incredible in the first half absolutely crap in the second. But when momentum changes that much I am very suspicious. I was curious about the dispensation of 6 again calls through the game. So I noted them down.

Nothing was too one sided until we got to 20 points. From then til the end of the first half they got 3 repeat sets on the 4th to get them off their own line.

Second half
There was a 6th minute penalty from the scrum close to the roosters line, from which they got to start the set from the 30m line. Shit defence let them score their first. We had the momentum until this point. We finished sets deep in their end.

8th minute- head slam penalty on Suallii who's head didn't come in contact with the fucking ground as far as I saw watching the replay of it three times. At least the prick sat out for the HIA.

9th minute. 4th tackle repeat set for ruck infringement that was called before the tackle was completed.

9th minute. A second repeat set on the fourth which lead to the 11th minute try.

The roosters had momentum from there and scored in the 15th, 16th and 19th minute.

We snatched our next try after 23 minutes. For the first time in ages we got enough ball to hit their 20m line and got the bomb up. Smith threw a forward pass and we got one shot in good field position which Burton scored from.

We got just the one penalty from the time we hit 20 points unless I missed something. We got zero repeat sets that I noted either. So 55 or so minutes of the game where the roosters were perfectly disciplined and we were constantly making ruck infringements I didn't see.

So it was a really shit half of football. But the chooks were getting leg ups to get them out of their end from the point we were 20 in front. It continued until they hit 20 points. We got one penalty in that same period, no repeat sets (verse 2 penalties and 5 repeat sets in the fourth tackle). Were probably just lucky the turd let up a bit from the 23rd minute.

In the end it's allowing me to feel a bit better about the win. If I were the club I'd still be asking for an explanation from Annesley. I don't think the turnaround was incredible work from the Roosters. They capitalised on the calls, but the timing of those penalties and 6 again calls was very much what got them in field posession to score 20 points IMO.

Pisses me off a bit. But we still fucking won so I'm proud of the boys. Looks less like a massive capitulation when you see the pattern of how the games turned around via refs calls. If we can beat quality rosters when they're getting these type of calls, we're looking better than I thought.
Big thank you Alan !!!
You've just saved me from going through the game to do the same...
You are absolutely correct in your assessment !
Always appreciate a cup half full !!!
 

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Chooks had something like 70% possession in the second half. If you have the ball, being a man down is not a problem.

But, we failed to make use of the overlap. For some reason the Dogs wanted to take on the Roosters forwards, instead of getting the ball out to our backs.
You wonder, was it a tactic or the halfback ?
I have to admit that our defense also failed us, most likely caused by the Rorters assisted momentum !
 
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