Matt Frawley could play half back tonight

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Gotta say though that there werent too many other players in the position that Reynolds was in last week, scoring/scoring postion. Thats the beauty he is always in these positions, puts himself where he needs to be.
 

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Id much prefer to drop Lichaa tonight and put mbye there. I think he would be what we are missing at 9

I just dont have a good feeling about him at fb tbh.... fb is alot more then just attack... its positional awareness, catching high balls under pressure etc etc
What so you think playing hooker is just sticking your head in the scrum somewhere tackling a few lard arses and throwing the ball to supports? At least Mbye has played FB before. May be a few years ago but the structures are the same. Lichaa is going OK. He holds the centre, runs a bit more and gets the ball away from the forwards much better. Why would you weaken one key position by adding another to it who has only had one game there in his life? At least in attack FB is like 5/8 and if he can't catch a ball he shouldn't be on the paddock. As for defence he is quick enough to get to the right spots. His wingers are there to help whereas at 9 he is on his own.
 

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I think Mbye reads the defense pretty well to be honest. Love to see him have a crack at FB.
 

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What so you think playing hooker is just sticking your head in the scrum somewhere tackling a few lard arses and throwing the ball to supports? At least Mbye has played FB before. May be a few years ago but the structures are the same. Lichaa is going OK. He holds the centre, runs a bit more and gets the ball away from the forwards much better. Why would you weaken one key position by adding another to it who has only had one game there in his life? At least in attack FB is like 5/8 and if he can't catch a ball he shouldn't be on the paddock. As for defence he is quick enough to get to the right spots. His wingers are there to help whereas at 9 he is on his own.
I have played hooker all my life... i know the ins and outs....

Lichaa is rubbish. We need quicker and crisper service which he cant provide. We need acceleration more then speed which he cant provide.

Mbye has played in the 9 at NRL level. He hasnt played fb.

Im not saying he cant play fb. BUT can you imagine the kennel if he plays fullback and doesnt get it right straight away... it will take a good 5 to 10 rounds for him to settle in there
 

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True. No doubt Frawleys kicking game was the best we have had in a very long time, though he has been totally inconsistent in reserve grade. He needs to back it up tonight in dry conditions...he could hit every ball dead tonight and people will be cursing him lol.
Have any of our players played well in reserve grade? Seems like they always decide to step up in first grade but go into cruise control when in NSW cup.
 
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I have played hooker all my life... i know the ins and outs....

Lichaa is rubbish. We need quicker and crisper service which he cant provide. We need acceleration more then speed which he cant provide.

Mbye has played in the 9 at NRL level. He hasnt played fb.

Im not saying he cant play fb. BUT can you imagine the kennel if he plays fullback and doesnt get it right straight away... it will take a good 5 to 10 rounds for him to settle in there
I've played golf all my life and I ain't at the Masters..... It's not the service that kills us its the time it takes the players to get their big arses off the ground and play the ball. The biggest bloke in the game (Kas) is the quickest and we see good service when he is there. One game at 9 and he can play it? I just don't get it. If it was that easy then why bother spending money on a 9 at all - just get some little quick bloke to do the job on a weekly basis. It just weakens a critical position for the purpose of maybe improving another critical position. How is that going to help? It's just a hail mary. Lichaa has played all his life in the position. He does a better job than most critics think. How quick do you think Mbye will be after 50 tackles when he is used to making 10. Who is going to clean up the misses he makes up the guts? The back end of each half their big blokes with little blokes running off them will carve us up because Mbye won't be able to keep up. making 2 tackles a game out the back is a lot easier. Sure he may not have the miles in his legs but that will only affect him in attack late in each half and given Abbey really doesn't do anything anyway the other 60 minutes where Mbye is still going OK will be worth it. That said, if all three play I would be more inclined to think one of them will be on the bench and they will rotate in the halves or maybe give Lichaa a spell towards the end of each half.
 

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Have any of our players played well in reserve grade? Seem like they always decide to step up in first grade but go into cruise control when in NSW cup.
I only ever see a few games a season of reserve grade and everything else i hear from others or from match reports. We are just patchy, kinda like the first grade side lol.
 

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I've played golf all my life and I ain't at the Masters..... It's not the service that kills us its the time it takes the players to get their big arses off the ground and play the ball. The biggest bloke in the game (Kas) is the quickest and we see good service when he is there. One game at 9 and he can play it? I just don't get it. If it was that easy then why bother spending money on a 9 at all - just get some little quick bloke to do the job on a weekly basis. It just weakens a critical position for the purpose of maybe improving another critical position. How is that going to help? It's just a hail mary. Lichaa has played all his life in the position. He does a better job than most critics think. How quick do you think Mbye will be after 50 tackles when he is used to making 10. Who is going to clean up the misses he makes up the guts? The back end of each half their big blokes with little blokes running off them will carve us up because Mbye won't be able to keep up. making 2 tackles a game out the back is a lot easier. Sure he may not have the miles in his legs but that will only affect him in attack late in each half and given Abbey really doesn't do anything anyway the other 60 minutes where Mbye is still going OK will be worth it. That said, if all three play I would be more inclined to think one of them will be on the bench and they will rotate in the halves or maybe give Lichaa a spell towards the end of each half.
2014 GF he made 44 tackles, missed 2 against a very strong forward pack.... sooo to say he cant tackle at 9 and will be missing heaps isnt supported at this stage.

Lichaa has improved this year, but is far from top 10 hookers in the game. We need something different. We need to at least try mbye there again if we are going to persist with Reynolds/frawley combo

If he plays FB tonight, lets hope he makes it. Just dont crucify the bloke if it takes him a few games to adjust defensively

And with your golf comment... i have never swung a golf club in my life, i have only watched alot of golf.... who would offer a better opinion on how to take a putt?
 

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7th Tackle on Twitter reporting that Frawley will play tonight. Mbye expected to spend time at hooker.
 

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2014 GF he made 44 tackles, missed 2 against a very strong forward pack.... sooo to say he cant tackle at 9 and will be missing heaps isnt supported at this stage.

Lichaa has improved this year, but is far from top 10 hookers in the game. We need something different. We need to at least try mbye there again if we are going to persist with Reynolds/frawley combo

If he plays FB tonight, lets hope he makes it. Just dont crucify the bloke if it takes him a few games to adjust defensively

And with your golf comment... i have never swung a golf club in my life, i have only watched alot of golf.... who would offer a better opinion on how to take a putt?
That's one game - and we lost. I'm not saying he has to play FB although I think he generally has the skills to excel in the position. Seeing as I think Mbye is actually a very good footballer I'm not going to bag him if he does goes out the back and makes a few mistakes - as long as he tries. Frankly even going half pace I think he would be better than Abbey at this stage. I just don't see the value of dumping Lichaa and plugging in a stop gap when Lichaa is going OK and getting better every week. The issue isn't whether you have played golf it is whether you are any good at it. So would you rather get a golf lesson off someone who has played for 50 years and never improved or someone who is a scratch marker but only played for 2 years. Problem many people make in all walks of life is they think that doing something for a long time means you must be good at it.
 

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wouldn't be surprised to see:
6. Reynolds
7. Frawley
9. Mbye
14. Lichaa

Elliot out
 

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2014 GF he made 44 tackles, missed 2 against a very strong forward pack.... sooo to say he cant tackle at 9 and will be missing heaps isnt supported at this stage.

Lichaa has improved this year, but is far from top 10 hookers in the game. We need something different. We need to at least try mbye there again if we are going to persist with Reynolds/frawley combo

If he plays FB tonight, lets hope he makes it. Just dont crucify the bloke if it takes him a few games to adjust defensively

And with your golf comment... i have never swung a golf club in my life, i have only watched alot of golf.... who would offer a better opinion on how to take a putt?
Interestingly enough Lichaa is ranked:
- 3rd (397) in total minutes
- 4th (212) in total tackles
- 4th (7) in least missed tackles
- 5th (30.28) in tackle efficiency
- 5th (24) in total runs
- 5th (243) in total run meters
- 6th (10.12) in meters per run
- 1st (0) in least penalties
- 1st (0) in least errors

and

- Equal last in tries (0) with Levi, Hampton, Friend, Smith, Cook, Simpkins, Hodgson, McIlwrick and Segeyaro
- Equal last in assists (0) with Pritchard, Levi, Hampton, Friend, Cook, McCullough, Wallace, McIlwrick, Brailey and Segeyaro

Doesn't tell the whole story, but he's far from the worst hooker in the game.

Edit: Based on the 20 hookers who have played this year, stats taken from NRL.com and not verified through other sources
 
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wouldn't be surprised to see:
6. Reynolds
7. Frawley
9. Mbye
14. Lichaa

Elliot out
Me either but I think it will be RFM missing out. Des had him playing NSW Cup last weekend. Frawley on the bench makes no sense he's no impact player.
 

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Interestingly enough Lichaa is ranked:
- 3rd (397) in total minutes
- 4th (212) in total tackles
- 4th (7) in least missed tackles
- 5th (30.28) in tackle efficiency
- 5th (24) in total runs
- 5th (243) in total run meters
- 6th (10.12) in meters per run
- 1st (0) in least penalties
- 1st (0) in least errors

and

- Equal last in tries (0) with Levi, Hampton, Friend, Smith, Cook, Simpkins, Hodgson, McIlwrick and Segeyaro
- Equal last in assists (0) with Pritchard, Levi, Hampton, Friend, Cook, McCullough, Wallace, McIlwrick, Brailey and Segeyaro

Doesn't tell the whole story, but he's far from the worst hooker in the game
Wow...... interesting
 

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Mybe good speed of the mark nice left foot kick. Great attributes for Hooker. The negative in my eyes is his lack of game awareness and vision.
You don't need game awareness to pass to first receiver
 
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