Marcelo Montoya needs to go.

[CroydonDog]

I agree it’s starts in the middle and causes hoppa and Montoya to rush up. The Morris boys read defence better and are strong on there side but the problem can affect them as well but are handling it.

Corey Oates could have landed a plane through that gap.

 

[Deathspell]

Mate have you been watching all the dogs games this year he cannot read the game in
In defence they have scored 90 percent of points attacking the right side he always comes in

I havebeen watching and yes he's let 3 tries in but my point isn't history.Grogdog said that 1st Brisbane try was Hoppa's fault,I was responding to that,not past games.Foran and Montoya have let more tries in on the right.I don't give a fuck about Hoppa,I follow the Bulldogs and I'm only concerned with what's best by our team.
But to falsely blame someone,is wrong and to say that the right is weak because of of 1 man and ignore structure,errors inside,bad slides and continuous overlaps is wrong.
I answered a post few weeks back and listed why every try was conceded.Up until yesterday the right let 51% in,left 31%in and middle 18% in,so I don't know where you get this 90% from,I must assume you were being emotional,I get that.
Mbye is new at fullback,he's not marshalling the defensive slide fast enough to cover an overlap.It looks pretty bad if the right side is on the blind side of the ruck because most times Foran is out of position.Organizing the defense is part of the fullback's game and this takes time to develop right.Tedesco hasn't got it right yet and Easts are paying the price.Tolman was given the task before injury,maybe now that JJ is at lock,he can help Mbye's game.
Woods showed improvement in defense yesterday,in past games he wasn't sliding or marking his prop.That try against Easts for example,was as a result of that.He left Napa unmarked which committed the middle right to him thus creating an overlap.
Bro all of us need to be patient and fair,it's important to define where the problem starts and not just look at last tackle.We can't expect the right center/wing combination which costs $550 to be the same as the left center/wing combination which cost $1500k.I think at that value they are overachieving and we need these overachievers because our big money players are underachieving.

 

[MitchNewton]

No he doesn't. It was a cut out pass. It could never go to the centre and it was pre-meditated. We had the numbers there except that Montoya doesn't trust his inside men and came in leaving Oates open.

Watch again and see who Hoppa takes. It certainly wasn’t his centre.

 

[Bozzo]

I agree it’s starts in the middle and causes hoppa and Montoya to rush up. The Morris boys read defence better and are strong on there side but the problem can affect them as well but are handling it.

Morris boys are constantly talking in defence... I haven't seen that on the other side...

 

[Deathspell]

Due to that side being useless in defence over some time now it forces you to watch how it unfolds on that side. Hoppa consistently sprints up out of the line which then forces Montoya to do similar. They are both disgusting at that part of the game and not improving. The winger is suppose to count from his man in and the centre likewise. Hoppa shouldn't need improving in that area as he is a senior player and tying up that edge. At best Hoppa should be on the wing leaving him less decisions to make and not centre but then again he doesn't have the speed for a winger so. I don't know that Montoya offers us much at all but with a lack of FG players what can we do. Hoppa is far from blameless for our right side defence bro.

Bro I was just responding to that 1st Brisbane try.That whole right side including Foran is unstructured.It looks bad because everyone is doing different things.Foran can't handle a 2nd rower and is terrible at stopping the ball receiver,Hoppa's problem up until yesterday (watch previous tries) was,he was back peddling,which is suicide for a center and Montoya's positional play is all over.
Don't know what the answer is.When they all back peddled,they allowed the offense to run up to them and give the fullback time to inject.Now Hoppa rushes up,Foran stays put and Montoya is all over.The fucking defense looks like a triangle not a line.
Our middle,not marking their props and pulling the middle right into tackles,doesn't help either.Mbye because he's new to fullback isn't marshalling the slide fast enough when the fullback injects himself.
Hoppa is new at center and it's showing in defense,his tackling technique from the side is high school shit.
This is the way I see it bro,there's so much money available in the cap.So you're going to have a mixture of talent.The right center/wing combo costs $550k compared to $1500k for the left.
We cant expect same quality.I think for that price they are overachieving,we need those overachievers,until we blood some talent and sign them up cheap.Our 3 rep forwards consume 26% ($2.4k) of our cap,a decent spine consumes 43% ($3.9) that leaves 31% ($2.8k) for the other 23 players.Sad how our administration let Des unbalance our Bulldogs.

 

[Big M]

Bro I was just responding to that 1st Brisbane try.That whole right side including Foran is unstructured.It looks bad because everyone is doing different things.Foran can't handle a 2nd rower and is terrible at stopping the ball receiver,Hoppa's problem up until yesterday (watch previous tries) was,he was back peddling,which is suicide for a center and Montoya's positional play is all over.
Don't know what the answer is.When they all back peddled,they allowed the offense to run up to them and give the fullback time to inject.Now Hoppa rushes up,Foran stays put and Montoya is all over.The fucking defense looks like a triangle not a line.
Our middle,not marking their props and pulling the middle right into tackles,doesn't help either.Mbye because he's new to fullback isn't marshalling the slide fast enough when the fullback injects himself.
Hoppa is new at center and it's showing in defense,his tackling technique from the side is high school shit.
This is the way I see it bro,there's so much money available in the cap.So you're going to have a mixture of talent.The right center/wing combo costs $550k compared to $1500k for the left.
We cant expect same quality.I think for that price they are overachieving,we need those overachievers,until we blood some talent and sign them up cheap.Our 3 rep forwards consume 26% ($2.4k) of our cap,a decent spine consumes 43% ($3.9) that leaves 31% ($2.8k) for the other 23 players.Sad how our administration let Des unbalance our Bulldogs.

How is Hoppa new to centre?Didnt he win a gf as a centre or is that not counted because it wasn’t with this team? A defensive line is organised mainly by the fullback and Mbye is an athlete not a footballerHe will never be able to understand the nuances of organising players to defend before the play has appeared, but most ppl would know that.We need a fullback who has experience,NRL s not a place to serve an apprenticeship

 

[ozdog]

Montoya has no idea, he came running in on the broncos centre with 9 minutes to go, not even watching the ball, the ball hit him straight on the chest and he dropped it cold. If he had been watching the ball he would have taken the intercept and ran 80 meters to score and wrapping the game up for us to win. I think that’s his biggest problem, he doesn’t watch the ball, he watches the players in motion and that’s where he stuffs up.

 

[Deathspell]

How is Hoppa new to centre?Didnt he win a gf as a centre or is that not counted because it wasn’t with this team? A defensive line is organised mainly by the fullback and Mbye is an athlete not a footballerHe will never be able to understand the nuances of organising players to defend before the play has appeared, but most ppl would know that.We need a fullback who has experience,NRL s not a place to serve an apprenticeship

He played on the wing in Manly's 2011 grand final,Jamie Lyon and Steve Matai were centers.
And he joined Manly in 2010,so he couldn't have played in Manly's 2008 grand final.
He signed with the Bulldogs in 2016 and didn't play in our 2012/14 grand finals.
I agree with you bro,although Mbye looks great as a running fullback,he lacks organizational skills atm to make a complete fullback.We should stop screwing around and get a decent fullback for next year.I believe Mbye would compliment Foran,especially as a roaming 5/8,similar to Mullins at the Storm or Kleary at Easts.
He will give us options on both sides of the ruck and has a good pass.He's got speed to get infront of the forwards and take the line on.Can keep the defense in 2 minds.Got speed to run off 2nd rowers and inject himself with the fullback to ignite the edges.He is fast enough to run along the line and pick a tired forward.
He has proved he can defend in the line.
He just needs to improve his all round kicking game including the chip to pull the fullback up.

 

[hulk hogan]

Hoppa ran in forcing Montoya to follow him, it's Hoppa who can't read in defence!

Hahahah u are funny

 

[Hacky McAxe]

They keep scoring on Montoya for 3 reasons:

1) he's often out of position (kick behind and score)

2) he doesn't read the attack well

And most importantly...

3) he's usually defending against 2-3 players 'cause his inside players are nowhere to be seen

Hoppa comes in and leaves Montoya to defend against 3 players, but Hoppa only comes in 'cause his inside defenders have gone missing. It's not entirely Montoya's fault or Hoppa's fault. It's the fault of the whole right edge and until you fix that issue then dropping wingers or centres isn't going to fix the issue.

 

[cazman]

Is there a weaker player in th Comp? He’s a lightweight.. no strength no speed no power no brains

I agree well said, Montoya is the worst winger in the comp, bring in Holland on the wing or centre and move Will to the wing what ever works and stop wasting time,

 

[Mr Invisible]

They keep scoring on Montoya for 3 reasons:

1) he's often out of position (kick behind and score)

2) he doesn't read the attack well

And most importantly...

3) he's usually defending against 2-3 players 'cause his inside players are nowhere to be seen

Hoppa comes in and leaves Montoya to defend against 3 players, but Hoppa only comes in 'cause his inside defenders have gone missing. It's not entirely Montoya's fault or Hoppa's fault. It's the fault of the whole right edge and until you fix that issue then dropping wingers or centres isn't going to fix the issue.

4) he has the turning circle of a bendy bus

 

[Scoooby]

He’s no good, he should have been a big deal and a super star! So I thought...
The longer he plays the more he gets found out in defence. Even his attack is lack lustre.

So how much longer do you give him? It’s not like it’s his first time in first grade lol. I think holland should take his spot because he is faster, bigger an stronger and he will strengthen that side of the field! Meaning less leaked points (bonus)

Agree or disagree! He needs to spend some time in the lower grade, and if he never makes it back then so be it!

Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy, he just doesn’t have what it takes right now.

 

[DoggyStyla]

Holland to Wing, Olive to centre, Hoppa to second row..

 

[magdog]

Holland to Wing, Olive to centre, Hoppa to second row..

Can’t say I’ve ever seen Olive play.
But Hoppa could certainly play i the forwards. As could JMoz.

 

[liljohny]

Can’t say I’ve ever seen Olive play.
But Hoppa could certainly play i the forwards. As could JMoz.

Hey mate ive watched a fair few reggies games. There's not much to report on Olive. Seems like someone's mentioned his name on here and a few a blindly running with the concept that Olive should be in the team.

 

[Dogtime]

Absolutely. The bloke knows how to score a try, is safe under the high ball, can tackle and is positionally good. He's a much better proposition than Montoya. I'd rather have pure speed on the wing but if we can't get that then the next best is a positionally sound winger and that's Holland.

Holland should come in. Bring back Liccha and Farmer Brown (taking Hollands position on bench) as well. Liccha and Farmer Brown to do 20 minute high energy stints each. Holland much safer proposition than Montoya. Also need the inside guys to be pushing out. Remember also for Broncos game we had inexperienced Rhys Martin on RHS (instead of Jackson) next to Foran with a busted back, then Hoppa then Montoya...its a wonder Broncos didnt score 3 tries down that side.

 

[magdog]

Hey mate ive watched a fair few reggies games. There's not much to report on Olive. Seems like someone's mentioned his name on here and a few a blindly running with the concept that Olive should be in the team.

Losing does strange things to people!

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Hey mate ive watched a fair few reggies games. There's not much to report on Olive. Seems like someone's mentioned his name on here and a few a blindly running with the concept that Olive should be in the team.

The thinking behind Olive is that he'a a left side specialist and he adds some more pace and footwork to our backline. He then shifts to left centre inside of Bmoz with Jmoz shifting to right with Hoppa on his outside. Jmoz performs pretty much the same on either side and in theory the switch strengthens our overall defence.

 

[KLil]

I agree well said, Montoya is the worst winger in the comp, bring in Holland on the wing or centre and move Will to the wing what ever works and stop wasting time,

How about you just move Montoya to his natural left side where he played his whole life first and see how he goes next to a different centre... His not going ANYWHERE!