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The DoggFather said:
Well I used to carry an extendable batton, which I've never had to use, not very useful against a gun but could of come very handy against a knife. I guess other "non-lethal" options would be pepper spray or tasers, but should be only be obtained by completing a course to get a condition on your license to use and carry.

But then you apply follow equal and reasonable force IE you can't use arms against an unarmed perp. But even then it's full of grey areas where you could just say "I feared for my life".

If that Minns is serious, the whole licensing process needs an overhaul and made tougher and more strict. Its a joke, that's why the quality of guards are rubbish now. It gets treated as a good second job that you can get paid cash on the side. You sit in a class for 10-14 days, very minimal hands on training (I had to do majority of training through other agencies), pass a criminal check and then you're licensed.

TBH also immigrants from 3rd world countries get all the jobs because they are willing to "work" for peanuts, im talking as low as $8 an hour cash. Which drives proper guards away to better paying jobs (pubs/clubs).

Plus you even have training centres that basically sell you a license, you pay them and they pass you and certify you without in doing the course. Some get busted but plenty of them still do it.

PS I was allowed to carry when I was protecting cash and when I was a bodyguard protecting people that could afford it but wasn't allowed when you had to protect hundreds or thousands of human lives....

PPS part of the course is watching "Roadhouse", true story lol
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So in summary, a hi-vis vest and a streaming subscription for Roadhouse and sorted :-).

Thanks for the summary - clearly some grey areas but this event might bring some of that into focus and clean things up bit - give guards more help (and more pay) and keep them in the game until Police arrive (assuming no guns involved from the bad guys).
 
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If this tragedy and absolute horror show happened at the hands of someone with schizophrenia who was off his meds and had a paranoid psychotic episode, I'm sorry to say it will probably happen again.

All levels of government, and all sides of politics, have been part of the steady dismantling of mental health support. Increasingly, something like this is likely to happen again.
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I don’t know what type of mental illness he had, but in the video I just posted, his dad said he was very sick and had no social skills. He also believes he targeted women mainly because he was unable to have a relationship, which doesn’t sound like schizophrenia. Sounds like he hated women because none wanted to be with him.
 
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Media needs to be overhauled, assumptions are dangerous and could have easily lead to a reaction against innocent people in this matter. In sport who cares but when it comes to acts of violence they need to be dealt with harshly for making up complete rubbish.
 
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John Matrix said:
Media needs to be overhauled, assumptions are dangerous and could have easily lead to a reaction against innocent people in this matter. In sport who cares but when it comes to acts of violence they need to be dealt with harshly for making up complete rubbish.
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What about the poor bloke Ch7 broadcast all over the airwaves as the murderer! As Ed said. How many millions will he get!
 
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InGusWeTrust said:
Eta: Forgot to mention that in the video above, the killer’s father explains why he might have targeted women, so that question many have was answered pretty much.
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Sounds like the incel theory has legs.
And yes I agree, his family are victims too - they have to live with the guilt of what their son did.
 
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InGusWeTrust said:

I feel terrible for his Dad. To have a son you love do this would be distressing. Without knowing his medical history, I wonder if perhaps better care could have prevented him from wanting to commit such atrocities. The mental health system in this country is well and truly fucked. I haven’t seen my shrink for years, mainly because of the cost. Who can afford $200 per consultation? Even if you can afford it, actually seeking and continuing treatment can be onerous for people suffering severe conditions.

Eta: Forgot to mention that in the video above, the killer’s father explains why he might have targeted women, so that question many have was answered pretty much.
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Again the media going after his family who didn't commit any part of it, poor bloke is broken and in bad shape and the scum bag media don't give a shit.

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What about the poor bloke Ch7 broadcast all over the airwaves as the murderer! As Ed said. How many millions will he get!
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Hope he walks away with loads and then some!
 
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DinkumDog said:
So in summary, a hi-vis vest and a streaming subscription for Roadhouse and sorted :-).

Thanks for the summary - clearly some grey areas but this event might bring some of that into focus and clean things up bit - give guards more help (and more pay) and keep them in the game until Police arrive (assuming no guns involved from the bad guys).
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Basically, yes bro.

People think that piece of plastic (license) gives them power over people where in reality, they have zero power, the same power as a normal citizen. In fact all it does is put more eyes on you and more scrutiny since if you completed the course, you should know your rights and responsibilities better than the average punter.

We could always tell who just got their license and fresh to the industry because they would think they are cops, the younger ones think they are Rambo. They don't last long.

The learned, experienced guards don't fight until they really have to, we didn't get paid extra to brawl. So we turned it into a game, who can remove trouble out of the venue without being physical the quickest, we used to call it the jedi mind trick lol
 
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InGusWeTrust said:
I don’t know what type of mental illness he had, but in the video I just posted, his dad said he was very sick and had no social skills. He also believes he targeted women mainly because he was unable to have a relationship, which doesn’t sound like schizophrenia. Sounds like he hated women because none wanted to be with him.
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This is exactly what I told the Misses when I heard he was a male escort. An incel beta cuck.
 
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Sounds like the incel theory has legs.
And yes I agree, his family are victims too - they have to live with the guilt of what their son did.
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Not just that, they have had to live with his mental illness for at least 25 years.

Can you imagine what his parents have gone through every time he lapsed?

Media need to leave them alone.
 
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Another stabbing of a famous priest (Mari Mari). Someone create a new thread I don't know how.

Footage fuked up. I think it's the priest assasin has mentioned from Fairfield

Going to have big ramifications
 
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steeliz said:
Not just that, they have had to live with his mental illness for at least 25 years.

Can you imagine what his parents have gone through every time he lapsed?

Media need to leave them alone.
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No question a tough journey.
I agree media didn’t need to harass but equally old mate could’ve said ‘no comment’. He seemed like he had a burden to unload - at least some of that could be down to the initial shock that his son is dead and died a mass murderer and despite his struggles probably never believed it would come to this. No winners.
 
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No question a tough journey.
I agree media didn’t need to harass but equally old mate could’ve said ‘no comment’. He seemed like he had a burden to unload - at least some of that could be down to the initial shock that his son is dead and died a mass murderer and despite his struggles probably never believed it would come to this. No winners.
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Definitely no winners.

Everyone in this situation suffers
 
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