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He did look quicker in the trials though..... and besides we are only paying him part time money so what is the big deal. If we pay him full freight we will have to bone someone else out of our squad. We should be thanking him for missing 3-4 games instead of going ballistic all the time.
I'd rather be paying for a fulltime fb. What good is he if he won't play finals ?
JT would be fucken useless, even if he won you every game in the season, if he doesn't play in the finals.
 

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I'd rather be paying for a fulltime fb. What good is he if he won't play finals ?
JT would be fucken useless, even if he won you every game in the season, if he doesn't play in the finals.
OK. Say we sign Tedesco or someone like him - there goes 800+ per season as against the 150 Hoppa is currently costing us. We are already on or over the limit so we then have to get rid of 650+ from our existing cap (forget about upgrades and that stuff). So who goes. At that price probably 3 of our current squad replaced by up and comers like Abbey, Elliott, Fualolo and the like. Maybe we keep Browne and get rid of Graham and Jackson. I've got to say when faced with that sort of balancing act the potential of Hoppa missing a couple of games (and still think he would have played in the GF if we got there) while certainly not ideal is not the end of the world.
 

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I agree with what you're saying but the question was something like why have we gone 4 years without a specialist fullback and she avoided the question completely and just said Hoppa had picked up pace.
I agree with you on that point although I think BMoz was supposed to be the replacement FB and then blew his knee. Even so Perrett was safe but slow. Hoppa got thrown in last year and had a crack for the first half of the comp but fell away in back half. Maybe it was fitness or maybe injury - really don't know. He has had a full off season to get ready and certainly looked quicker in the storm trial. Hopefully Abbey will grow into the position and by the back half of this season we will actually have choices. I think Barba only jumped ship in the early part of the 2014 season so it has really only been 2 seasons where we didn't have a FB and Morris was supposed to slip in for 2015 and then got busted in pre-season last year. So really this year is the first one where we look like having someone play FB who has been training in it during the off season. I expect him to go pretty well this year.
 

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Can only imagine that the answers would've been vague at best.
 

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Hoppa is not freakin on 150k a year
Whoever started that shit is full of it
No one knows the exact amount but I can assure u it's a hell of a lot higher than the stupid 150 mentioned.
 

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They asked the Facebook live audience to send In their questions and then zap turner starts reading from a paper the questions that they had already pre selected.
Furthermore Mrs castle brang along a show and tell letter from one of Reynolds #1 fans and said she is in the early stages of renewing grubs contract.
She's full of shit, to not answer the question fully is one thing but to straight out lie to a massive fan of Reynolds is down right low in my books.
 

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OK. Say we sign Tedesco or someone like him - there goes 800+ per season as against the 150 Hoppa is currently costing us. We are already on or over the limit so we then have to get rid of 650+ from our existing cap (forget about upgrades and that stuff). So who goes. At that price probably 3 of our current squad replaced by up and comers like Abbey, Elliott, Fualolo and the like. Maybe we keep Browne and get rid of Graham and Jackson. I've got to say when faced with that sort of balancing act the potential of Hoppa missing a couple of games (and still think he would have played in the GF if we got there) while certainly not ideal is not the end of the world.
650... option 1 get rid of b morris because thats what he gets paid to play on wing.. option 2. Get rid of abbey, hoppa and one other poxy back .. only thing with that is your shedding 3 players in top 25 to replace with 1 so you still need to pay for two more to join. Option 3. Get rid of eastwood. Option 4 get rid of tolman. .... theres heaps of ways to do it if the club was keen and the player was keen to sign
 

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650... option 1 get rid of b morris because thats what he gets paid to play on wing.. option 2. Get rid of abbey, hoppa and one other poxy back .. only thing with that is your shedding 3 players in top 25 to replace with 1 so you still need to pay for two more to join. Option 3. Get rid of eastwood. Option 4 get rid of tolman. .... theres heaps of ways to do it if the club was keen and the player was keen to sign
Also.. browne is already gone.. and if we got rid of jackson and graham wouldn't that clear up almost 1.5m ? Not required. If teddy is 800k we can replace him by offloading a player on 800k....
 

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Hoppa is not freakin on 150k a year
Whoever started that shit is full of it
No one knows the exact amount but I can assure u it's a hell of a lot higher than the stupid 150 mentioned.
Aren the Eels paying part of his contract? Maybe he's taking up $150k of our cap
 

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No he is suing the eels
Eels don't pay shiet
People got no idea
He settled for $400k that Parramatta have to pay from the cap over 3 years. That and the no footy on Sundays maybe makes $150k at least plausible...?
 

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I'd rather be paying for a fulltime fb. What good is he if he won't play finals ?
JT would be fucken useless, even if he won you every game in the season, if he doesn't play in the finals.
Excellent point. Unless Des thinks Hoppa is replaceable
 

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Also.. browne is already gone.. and if we got rid of jackson and graham wouldn't that clear up almost 1.5m ? Not required. If teddy is 800k we can replace him by offloading a player on 800k....
get rid of Jackson and Graham? Maybe Jackson but not graham
 

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get rid of Jackson and Graham? Maybe Jackson but not graham
Graham has been ineffective for 2 years. Jackson is in form. He has been best player for two years for us.
Jackson > Graham
 
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The salary cap also goes up. We would still release a couple of players but a Teddy/Moses package deal would be worth shedding players for
 

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650... option 1 get rid of b morris because thats what he gets paid to play on wing.. option 2. Get rid of abbey, hoppa and one other poxy back .. only thing with that is your shedding 3 players in top 25 to replace with 1 so you still need to pay for two more to join. Option 3. Get rid of eastwood. Option 4 get rid of tolman. .... theres heaps of ways to do it if the club was keen and the player was keen to sign
Except for one little yet important thing - all these blokes you want to get rid of have to be replaced by someone else. so how does the squad look if you have cleaned out all these players? Suddenly the Elliots, RFMs, Fualolos and Fines become you frontline players. Still think we can be competitive with those blokes in our starting side?
 

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The salary cap also goes up. We would still release a couple of players but a Teddy/Moses package deal would be worth shedding players for
Yep. Get rid of BMoz because he breaks down and replace him with Teddy. Get rid of Reynolds? because he misses tackles and replace him with Moses. I can see the logic and it would probably only cost us an additional 500k in our salary cap. I'm not saying we have our roster perfect or even right but I am also realistic enough to know that the clubs can count and they know what they have available to spend and they have to gamble to some extent on up and comers either making the grade or not. When it works like it did for the sharks last year it looks good when it doesn't you end up like the Rabbits.
 
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