Your Opinion on the 1-17 next season

[Bulldog1966]

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Tough to please

Now this i agree with they are world champion boring at both sports and great underachievers at Football.
i didnt think i could hate Union more until i watched those VVankers play a couple of times years ago..a yawnfest alright.

 

[warrenpershouse]

1. Matt Dufty
2. Nick Cotric
3. Brent Naden
4. Aaron Schoupp
5. Josh Addo Carr
6. Matt Burton
7. Jake Averillo
8. Paul Vaughan
9. Jeremy Marshall King
10. Luke Thompson
11. Tevita Pangai Junior
12. Raymond Faitala Mariner
13. Josh Jackson
14. Bailey Biondi Odo
15. Jack Hetherington
16. Chris Patolo
17. Josh Asiata

Nice team mate.. But i think 17 i would rather Topine.. younger and hungrier player

 

[JAZZY92]

My team idea is very “left field” but is something I think could work. This is how I would have a go at lining them up and why.

1. Averillo. Strong running/passing game. Remove the kicking and allow him to attack with hands and feet.
2. Cotric. His preferred side. Will be better this year.
3. RFM - Talakai type role on the right edge. Will be good defensively blocking oppositions left edge attack. Schoupp later if doesn’t work.
4. Naden. Speed on the left outside burton
5. JAC. Preferred side and speed outside burton
6. Dufty. Attacking flair but liable in defence. This is why RFM is outside him. Could also be shifted out to wing in D. Issue here is leaves burton to basically be our only kicker out of our end.
7. Burton. If Baz is a good enough coach he should be able to teach him to manage the game without interrupting his off the cuff style. (Nathan Cleary type).
8. Jackson. Tackle-bot, can do his current role from here. Needs to start for leadership early but happy for his minutes to reduce.
9. Cook. Everything I’ve heard is this kid has something special.
10. Thompson. Our best prop.
11. TPJ. Poor man’s David Fifita on his day. Too dangerous to be used as a battering ram. Will help dufty defend on the right with RFM.
12. Hethrington. His speed and footwork aren’t appreciated in the middle. Edge is best.
13. JMK/Asiata. Whoever the fuck wants it more. I think JMK offers more in defence. Can also rotate into 9 if needed.

14. BBO
15. Vaughn
16. Ava
17. Patolo

 

[TwinTurbo]

My team idea is very “left field” but is something I think could work. This is how I would have a go at lining them up and why.

1. Averillo. Strong running/passing game. Remove the kicking and allow him to attack with hands and feet.
2. Cotric. His preferred side. Will be better this year.
3. RFM - Talakai type role on the right edge. Will be good defensively blocking oppositions left edge attack. Schoupp later if doesn’t work.
4. Naden. Speed on the left outside burton
5. JAC. Preferred side and speed outside burton
6. Dufty. Attacking flair but liable in defence. This is why RFM is outside him. Could also be shifted out to wing in D. Issue here is leaves burton to basically be our only kicker out of our end.
7. Burton. If Baz is a good enough coach he should be able to teach him to manage the game without interrupting his off the cuff style. (Nathan Cleary type).
8. Jackson. Tackle-bot, can do his current role from here. Needs to start for leadership early but happy for his minutes to reduce.
9. Cook. Everything I’ve heard is this kid has something special.
10. Thompson. Our best prop.
11. TPJ. Poor man’s David Fifita on his day. Too dangerous to be used as a battering ram. Will help dufty defend on the right with RFM.
12. Hethrington. His speed and footwork aren’t appreciated in the middle. Edge is best.
13. JMK/Asiata. Whoever the fuck wants it more. I think JMK offers more in defence. Can also rotate into 9 if needed.

14. BBO
15. Vaughn
16. Ava
17. Patolo

The people picking Averillo at full back really need to get along to a training session or 2 and watch him try (yes try) and catch high balls. At the 4 full sessions that I made it to this year he was hopeless, not bad, seriously hopeless. Every high kick from the opposition would be a good chance for them to score a try if he was the fullback trying to catch them. He is not a talker, does zero, zilch, FA organising, particularly in defence, which is another must have for a fullback.

Maybe he can learn the fullback necessary skills, but he sure as hell doesn’t have them right now.

Always a Bulldog

 

[JAZZY92]

The people picking Averillo at full back really need to get along to a training session or 2 and watch him try (yes try) and catch high balls. At the 4 full sessions that I made it to this year he was hopeless, not bad, seriously hopeless. Every high kick from the opposition would be a good chance for them to score a try if he was the fullback trying to catch them. He is not a talker, does zero, zilch, FA organising, particularly in defence, which is another must have for a fullback.

Maybe he can learn the fullback necessary skills, but he sure as hell doesn’t have them right now.

Always a Bulldog

That's a fair enough response mate. I guess I was purely thinking of it from an attacking standpoint, not a kick defusal standpoint. But you make a case.
I do think, however, his voice has gotten louder as the season has gone on with the game managing responsibilities he's been given this year. Given that, I think if its purely a skills issue it could be taught and trained into him.

 

[TwinTurbo]

That's a fair enough response mate. I guess I was purely thinking of it from an attacking standpoint, not a kick defusal standpoint. But you make a case.
I do think, however, his voice has gotten louder as the season has gone on with the game managing responsibilities he's been given this year. Given that, I think if its purely a skills issue it could be taught and trained into him.

I have no doubt that he has the athletic skills, but fullback has a very specific set of other skills that I have not seen him display. But they can be taught and learnt, as long as he is capable of learning them. Plus I believe he just needs time to understand what is required to play at NRL level every week. Right now he plainly isn't ready to play fullback at a sustainably high NRL level.

Always a Bulldog

 

[Bulldog1966]

I have no doubt that he has the athletic skills, but fullback has a very specific set of other skills that I have not seen him display. But they can be taught and learnt, as long as he is capable of learning them. Plus I believe he just needs time to understand what is required to play at NRL level every week. Right now he plainly isn't ready to play fullback at a sustainably high NRL level.

Always a Bulldog

I agree with what your saying, the fact they didnt try him there this year supports your theory it would have been a hot mess not worth trying ever maybe?
I foresee problems next season with what actually is his best position, plus what do we do with BBO who will be wasted just playing what 20 mins off the bench all season "developing" ?

 

[Freakzilla]

01. Matthew Dufty
02. Josh Addo-Carr
03. Aaron Schoupp
04. Brent Naden
05. Nick Cotric
06. Matt Burton (c)(k)
07. Brandon Wakeham
08. Luke Thompson
09. Bailey Biondi-Odo
10. Ava Seumanufagai
11. Tevita Pangai Junior
12. Raymond Faitala-Mariner
13. Josh Jackson

14. Josh Cook
15. Jackson Topine
16. Jack Hetherington
17. Paul Vaughan

 

[CaptainJackson]

My team idea is very “left field” but is something I think could work. This is how I would have a go at lining them up and why.

1. Averillo. Strong running/passing game. Remove the kicking and allow him to attack with hands and feet.
2. Cotric. His preferred side. Will be better this year.
3. RFM - Talakai type role on the right edge. Will be good defensively blocking oppositions left edge attack. Schoupp later if doesn’t work.
4. Naden. Speed on the left outside burton
5. JAC. Preferred side and speed outside burton
6. Dufty. Attacking flair but liable in defence. This is why RFM is outside him. Could also be shifted out to wing in D. Issue here is leaves burton to basically be our only kicker out of our end.
7. Burton. If Baz is a good enough coach he should be able to teach him to manage the game without interrupting his off the cuff style. (Nathan Cleary type).
8. Jackson. Tackle-bot, can do his current role from here. Needs to start for leadership early but happy for his minutes to reduce.
9. Cook. Everything I’ve heard is this kid has something special.
10. Thompson. Our best prop.
11. TPJ. Poor man’s David Fifita on his day. Too dangerous to be used as a battering ram. Will help dufty defend on the right with RFM.
12. Hethrington. His speed and footwork aren’t appreciated in the middle. Edge is best.
13. JMK/Asiata. Whoever the fuck wants it more. I think JMK offers more in defence. Can also rotate into 9 if needed.

14. BBO
15. Vaughn
16. Ava
17. Patolo

OMG

RFM Center?
Jackson Prop?
Dufty five eigth?

Just no.

 

[JAZZY92]

OMG

RFM Center?
Jackson Prop?
Dufty five eigth?

Just no.

I said it was left field. Why not?

 

[Bulldogsteve]

I said it was left field. Why not?

why not? because it is all wrong

 

[JAZZY92]

why not? because it is all wrong

Well, what don’t you like about it?

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Well, what don’t you like about it?

fuck where do i start.
RFM is not a centre
Dufty cant defend in the front line
you want to kill jacko by getting him to take the shit prop carries?
TPJ is a middle preferably
Cook hasnt even played reserve grade as far as im aware.
you had a crack but it 10,000- 1 to happen.

 

[JORDZILLA]

01. Matthew Dufty
02. Josh Addo-Carr
03. Aaron Schoupp
04. Brent Naden
05. Nick Cotric
06. Matt Burton (c)(k)
07. Brandon Wakeham
08. Luke Thompson
09. Bailey Biondi-Odo
10. Ava Seumanufagai
11. Tevita Pangai Junior
12. Raymond Faitala-Mariner
13. Josh Jackson

14. Josh Cook
15. Jackson Topine
16. Jack Hetherington
17. Paul Vaughan

Feeling this will be our 2022 line-up daddy

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Feeling this will be our 2022 line-up daddy

no i wont

 

[JAZZY92]

fuck where do i start.
RFM is not a centre
Dufty cant defend in the front line
you want to kill jacko by getting him to take the shit prop carries?
TPJ is a middle preferably
Cook hasnt even played reserve grade as far as im aware.
you had a crack but it 10,000- 1 to happen.

RFM isn’t a centre, but to make the change isn’t difficult. Their jobs (meters out of yardage, decoys, etc) aren’t that different. And he would help dufty in defence in the line. Jackos current Carries are no different to what he would do at prop. He loves hard work and needs to be in the middle but He’s not a link and I think we’ll need one next year.
I disagree about TPJ. His best work for mine is on the edge but He can always come in and help in the middle from the edge with and without the ball.
Cook is definitely a wait and see.
and finally, the thread isn’t about what we think will happen. It’s an opinion on how you would line up the squad and why.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

I think the most likely lineup for round 1 that Trent would select is this. Only question marks are Schoupp considering surgery, same goes for RFM. How long Trent sticks with that side....we'll see I guess.

1. Dufty
2. JAC
3. Naden
4. Schoupp
5. Cotric
6. Burton
7. Averillo (GK)
8. Thompson
9. Cook
10. Vaughan
11. Hetherington
12. TPJ
13. Jackson (C)

14. BBO
15. Ava
16. Patolo
17. RFM

 

[Roger the alien]

My team idea is very “left field” but is something I think could work. This is how I would have a go at lining them up and why.

1. Averillo. Strong running/passing game. Remove the kicking and allow him to attack with hands and feet.
2. Cotric. His preferred side. Will be better this year.
3. RFM - Talakai type role on the right edge. Will be good defensively blocking oppositions left edge attack. Schoupp later if doesn’t work.
4. Naden. Speed on the left outside burton
5. JAC. Preferred side and speed outside burton
6. Dufty. Attacking flair but liable in defence. This is why RFM is outside him. Could also be shifted out to wing in D. Issue here is leaves burton to basically be our only kicker out of our end.
7. Burton. If Baz is a good enough coach he should be able to teach him to manage the game without interrupting his off the cuff style. (Nathan Cleary type).
8. Jackson. Tackle-bot, can do his current role from here. Needs to start for leadership early but happy for his minutes to reduce.
9. Cook. Everything I’ve heard is this kid has something special.
10. Thompson. Our best prop.
11. TPJ. Poor man’s David Fifita on his day. Too dangerous to be used as a battering ram. Will help dufty defend on the right with RFM.
12. Hethrington. His speed and footwork aren’t appreciated in the middle. Edge is best.
13. JMK/Asiata. Whoever the fuck wants it more. I think JMK offers more in defence. Can also rotate into 9 if needed.

14. BBO
15. Vaughn
16. Ava
17. Patolo

Not sure if serious or just on drugs.

 

[CaptainJackson]

1. Dufty
2. JAC
3. Naden
4. Schoupp
5. Cotric

What do people think of the promise made to Cotric to play center? Is it still on the cards for next season?

 

[JAZZY92]

Not sure if serious or just on drugs.

Definitely the latter