Mr Invisible
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PREFACE: Didn't bother reading most of this fluff piece... couldn't be arsed.
However two trains of thought here:
#1 - In instances where one would SHOULDN'T be able to discriminate, you still can. Yes it's supposidely illegal to advertise positions with "No Africans, No Asians, No Indians", however does that honestly stop discrimination? Nope, it just stops people mentioning it. HOWEVER there appears to be no law when it comes to advertising roles as "Must be able to speak fluent Cantonese", or "Must speak fluent Hindu", or "Hindu speaking only". Rather than discriminate against a person, they make a job REQUIREMENT specifically pertaining to the sort of people that want (or to exclude people) from that role.
But taking it a step further, how is it illegal to advertise a position as "No Africans, No Asians, No Indians", or "Indians/Asians Only", yet it's perfectly okay to advertise a position as "Aborginal or Torres Strait Islander only". Now I understand there are cultural aspects there, but how does that in any way differ to potential cultural aspects in advertising a job as "Indians Only", or "Asians Only". In some jobs they may REQUIRE someone Indian or Asian, but cannot advertise that openly. Mainly those that touch on religious, medical and cultural boundaries. However that doesn't mean a white Aussie cannot learn those things.
All this though is kinda by the way, given that come interview time if your skin colour is the wrong tone, or your name indicates the wrong ethnicity, they can simply pull out the old "there were better candidates" / "we decided to go with someone else" line. No reason given or required.
#2 - In regards to dating apps though, there absolutely should be allowed the ability to discriminate in a fair and rational manner. Attraction is a key component to a relationship. For example I'm not really attracted to darker skinned woman (that's not a racist comment, it's just they are not attractive / do nothing for me), hence I wouldn't date (if I was ever single) an African, Indian, or Aboriginal person. That's not racism it's a personal choice made based on attraction (or lack thereof). They may have the same lack of attraction for a white bloke!
The ability for a user to fine tune and finely select what is attractive to them is key to the success of dating sites. If there was no ability to filter potential matches, so much time would be wasted on "false positives" that remain unattractive to people.
Imagine someone looking for a hookup on Tinder/Grindr and instead of taking 5 minutes and 10 swipes to find a match, instead it takes them 45 minutes and 480 swipes. Eventually that person grows sick of it and doesn't use the app anymore.
Selective ability to filter races is required in some instances (e.g dating apps), but putting a racial tag on ANY job application should be a massive no no, but will never be fixed,, simply because once things become face to face, a person can be selective with no reason given.
However two trains of thought here:
#1 - In instances where one would SHOULDN'T be able to discriminate, you still can. Yes it's supposidely illegal to advertise positions with "No Africans, No Asians, No Indians", however does that honestly stop discrimination? Nope, it just stops people mentioning it. HOWEVER there appears to be no law when it comes to advertising roles as "Must be able to speak fluent Cantonese", or "Must speak fluent Hindu", or "Hindu speaking only". Rather than discriminate against a person, they make a job REQUIREMENT specifically pertaining to the sort of people that want (or to exclude people) from that role.
But taking it a step further, how is it illegal to advertise a position as "No Africans, No Asians, No Indians", or "Indians/Asians Only", yet it's perfectly okay to advertise a position as "Aborginal or Torres Strait Islander only". Now I understand there are cultural aspects there, but how does that in any way differ to potential cultural aspects in advertising a job as "Indians Only", or "Asians Only". In some jobs they may REQUIRE someone Indian or Asian, but cannot advertise that openly. Mainly those that touch on religious, medical and cultural boundaries. However that doesn't mean a white Aussie cannot learn those things.
All this though is kinda by the way, given that come interview time if your skin colour is the wrong tone, or your name indicates the wrong ethnicity, they can simply pull out the old "there were better candidates" / "we decided to go with someone else" line. No reason given or required.
#2 - In regards to dating apps though, there absolutely should be allowed the ability to discriminate in a fair and rational manner. Attraction is a key component to a relationship. For example I'm not really attracted to darker skinned woman (that's not a racist comment, it's just they are not attractive / do nothing for me), hence I wouldn't date (if I was ever single) an African, Indian, or Aboriginal person. That's not racism it's a personal choice made based on attraction (or lack thereof). They may have the same lack of attraction for a white bloke!
The ability for a user to fine tune and finely select what is attractive to them is key to the success of dating sites. If there was no ability to filter potential matches, so much time would be wasted on "false positives" that remain unattractive to people.
Imagine someone looking for a hookup on Tinder/Grindr and instead of taking 5 minutes and 10 swipes to find a match, instead it takes them 45 minutes and 480 swipes. Eventually that person grows sick of it and doesn't use the app anymore.
Selective ability to filter races is required in some instances (e.g dating apps), but putting a racial tag on ANY job application should be a massive no no, but will never be fixed,, simply because once things become face to face, a person can be selective with no reason given.
