Opinion We can afford Hunt, Paps and Thompson

Berries said:
I genuinely believe in Ciraldos vision, Gus bringing a 55 year old half who’s whinged at every point is infinitely worse than any half or 5/8th we perceive to be average. I’ll take a Burton and Sexton combo any day. Gus isn’t thinking straight
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@Utility writes better than everyone else and says it best. I'm not even going to try and compete.

Gus is great for the game and done some great things for the club. Gus does have a few weaknesses, can make mistakes and can allow his ego to over rule him. Gus is the smartest person in the game the downfall to this is that Gus wants everyone to know this.

Gus came to Canterbury when it was weak and the board was about to be challenged again. He held every card in the negotiating and got what he wanted which was full and sole control. He had his power clipped at Penrith to the point it all ended. The great thing of this and I have praised Gus many times is that he's made the board redundant and the factions can't have any sway anymore. This has allowed Canterbury to be steady because it's a one person operation when it comes to football.

The Hunt one will be interesting. I do believe Ciraldo is keen to build the team he currently has and bring through the next generation of players. He's very influenced by Cleary and Cameron in this regard and watching the Panthers 2peat doco showcases this. Ciraldo spoke so well on the doco. Watching that doco I'm confident Ciraldo is more like Cleary than any other coach or administrator. Gus on openly praises Politis more than any administrator he's worked with certainly way more than Bullfrog. Gus has always been front and centre in wanting to recruit and it's the Politis Rooster competitive streak in him. It's why we are so linked to so many players and same at Penrith when Gus was there. Politis always believes that buying is best and there's no form of patience.
 
bradyk said:
Hughes, Kautoga, Morrin, Patolo, Perham, Skelton, DSF, Topine, Turpin and Wilson. Maybe others too just a quick look through the roster.

Then we had duds like Knight and Taaffe who should of been on minimum wage.
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Oh no it’s @bradyk with the calculator out again
 
I wouldn’t want hung for 800-900k+ that was the problem with his dragons deal. He isn’t worth top tier money. Yes great player but not in that realm.

Also Thompson is probably 750-800 at this stage. Young middle who has been relatively fit injury wise last 2 years. I don’t even think his manager answers the phone for under 750k. And if storm wang pappy for 750-800 it’s dangerous to think it is wise to get him for 1.1. Great player when fit but you’d need to think all the injuries have taken or will take a toll. Was possibly the best fullback in the comp 4 years ago he could possibly get back there but there is no guarantee.

To be a premiership contender 600k for hunt 2-3 years. 800-850k for pappi (don’t forget Tracey is solid so it’s not like perrett or perham are back there). And 750k for Leo. Yes it’s slightly unders. But we are a team on the up. Hunt can mentor O’Neill, woods, Tia like Maloney did. He could be released to uk on the 3rd year or he could retire and take up a role at the club.

These are all hypothetical. But I wouldn’t want hunt for 800k-1m. Like others have said it ties up too much money, and it will weaken other positions. Dragons have released him so they need to pay a portion too.
 
Magic Burton said:
@Utility writes better than everyone else and says it best. I'm not even going to try and compete.

Gus is great for the game and done some great things for the club. Gus does have a few weaknesses, can make mistakes and can allow his ego to over rule him. Gus is the smartest person in the game the downfall to this is that Gus wants everyone to know this.

Gus came to Canterbury when it was weak and the board was about to be challenged again. He held every card in the negotiating and got what he wanted which was full and sole control. He had his power clipped at Penrith to the point it all ended. The great thing of this and I have praised Gus many times is that he's made the board redundant and the factions can't have any sway anymore. This has allowed Canterbury to be steady because it's a one person operation when it comes to football.

The Hunt one will be interesting. I do believe Ciraldo is keen to build the team he currently has and bring through the next generation of players. He's very influenced by Cleary and Cameron in this regard and watching the Panthers 2peat doco showcases this. Ciraldo spoke so well on the doco. Watching that doco I'm confident Ciraldo is more like Cleary than any other coach or administrator. Gus on openly praises Politis more than any administrator he's worked with certainly way more than Bullfrog. Gus has always been front and centre in wanting to recruit and it's the Politis Rooster competitive streak in him. It's why we are so linked to so many players and same at Penrith when Gus was there. Politis always believes that buying is best and there's no form of patience.
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You might be right about Gus but I don't know for sure because I don't have access to his brain.

But there are a lot of assumptions made about who he is chasing. It's funny because on TK we criticise journalists constantly for making up stories about us and linking the dogs to every player available. But then, when it suits, some criticise Gus for chasing those same players (while no-one knows if we even talked to them) and criticise him again if he misses out, or if he actually signs them.
 
bradyk said:
All the tops teams pay close to minimum wage for most of their 18-30. Actually almost every team does and if they're not on close to minimum wage outside the top 17 they're most likely duds the clubs are trying to move on and are struggling to do so. Our depth will be fine.
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This is just factually incorrect
 
Sexton lead us to the finals last season and deserves another shot.

Ben Hunt couldn’t lead his side to the finals and I don’t see any evidence to suggest he’s any better than Sexy.

He’s a confusing dude because there’s kind of two Ben Hunts.

1. Origin Ben Hunt (Hooker, bench impact player, winner of SOO etc)

2. Club Ben Hunt (Halfback who has been consistently average and taken his team to the finals how many times?)

He looks like a million dollar player when he plays SOO but at club?

Meh…
 
Helmut Dog Wizard said:
Sexton lead us to the finals last season and deserves another shot.

Ben Hunt couldn’t lead his side to the finals and I don’t see any evidence to suggest he’s any better than Sexy.

He’s a confusing dude because there’s kind of two Ben Hunts.

1. Origin Ben Hunt (Hooker, bench impact player, winner of SOO etc)

2. Club Ben Hunt (Halfback who has been consistently average and taken his team to the finals how many times?)

He looks like a million dollar player when he plays SOO but at club?

Meh…
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Ben Hunt is Origin first, Individual second and Club is very distant third.

I won't say he's a worse club footballer than Wally Lewis, Dale Shearer or Bob Lindner he's sure up there.
 
Lex said:
Hunt is an ordinary player and a worse bloke. Can’t believe some are clamouring to pick up Dragons trash. Hasn’t done anything and never will. Praying we aren’t interested.
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Gus is a big admirer of Hunt. Gus first met with Hunt in August 2022 hoping to get Hunt for the 2024 season when he came on the market. He re-signed with Dragons just before the November 1 deadline. Danny Weidler was first to report Hunt wanted out during the 2023 season and he immediately said our club was interested. Weidler again reported a few weeks ago our club was lurking for Hunt.

I personally don't think Hunt is the right player. What Gus thinks will decide everything.
 
Magic Burton said:
@Utility writes better than everyone else and says it best. I'm not even going to try and compete.

Gus is great for the game and done some great things for the club. Gus does have a few weaknesses, can make mistakes and can allow his ego to over rule him. Gus is the smartest person in the game the downfall to this is that Gus wants everyone to know this.

Gus came to Canterbury when it was weak and the board was about to be challenged again. He held every card in the negotiating and got what he wanted which was full and sole control. He had his power clipped at Penrith to the point it all ended. The great thing of this and I have praised Gus many times is that he's made the board redundant and the factions can't have any sway anymore. This has allowed Canterbury to be steady because it's a one person operation when it comes to football.

The Hunt one will be interesting. I do believe Ciraldo is keen to build the team he currently has and bring through the next generation of players. He's very influenced by Cleary and Cameron in this regard and watching the Panthers 2peat doco showcases this. Ciraldo spoke so well on the doco. Watching that doco I'm confident Ciraldo is more like Cleary than any other coach or administrator. Gus on openly praises Politis more than any administrator he's worked with certainly way more than Bullfrog. Gus has always been front and centre in wanting to recruit and it's the Politis Rooster competitive streak in him. It's why we are so linked to so many players and same at Penrith when Gus was there. Politis always believes that buying is best and there's no form of patience.
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Keep Gus’s name out your mouth.
 
Magic Burton said:
Gus is a big admirer of Hunt. Gus first met with Hunt in August 2022 hoping to get Hunt for the 2024 season when he came on the market. He re-signed with Dragons just before the November 1 deadline. Danny Weidler was first to report Hunt wanted out during the 2023 season and he immediately said our club was interested. Weidler again reported a few weeks ago our club was lurking for Hunt.

I personally don't think Hunt is the right player. What Gus thinks will decide everything.
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How do you know what Gus is thinking?
When did he say we are after hunt?
 
Magic Burton said:
Ben Hunt is Origin first, Individual second and Club is very distant third.

I won't say he's a worse club footballer than Wally Lewis, Dale Shearer or Bob Lindner he's sure up there.
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Yeah that's a good point. He doesn't really fit what's written on the walls...
 
Trust the process, we are heading in the right direction

CC knows who he needs for his system (plan)

enjoy the ride
 
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