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I think you need to get out moreAgree Assassin. But I believe that a majority will support a hard nosed leader like Dutton.
I think you need to get out moreAgree Assassin. But I believe that a majority will support a hard nosed leader like Dutton.
Matter of time before Shorten knives another one.I think you need to get out more
Disagree. The party was tanking in the polls under Abbott.... Turnbull didn't help matters much, but after they dumped him for ScoMo they won an election they were predicted to lose and then rebounded nicely in the polls before ProMo blew it with his walking faux pas circus. I reckon they'll tank in the polls big time under Dutton. Don't think he'll make it to 2025. Time will tell.I don't think Libs will risk changing leadership. They lost popularity during the leadership switchup between Abbott-Turnbull-ScoMo. I doubt they'll risk showing more instability. They'll stick with Dutton until they lose the next election, then they'll encourage him to step down and everyone will make him the scapegoat for the failure.
Or it arrived late & Libs couldn't save us before the election last Saturday. Or instead of 2 there were moreThey would’ve left a while ago but knew Labor were going to win haha
But they also lost many supporters to ON and Palmer during that time. They also had a large drop in approval rating leading up to this election but they stuck with ScoMo.Disagree. The party was tanking in the polls under Abbott.... Turnbull didn't help matters much, but after they dumped him for ScoMo they won an election they were predicted to lose and then rebounded nicely in the polls before ProMo blew it with his walking faux pas circus. I reckon they'll tank in the polls big time under Dutton. Don't think he'll make it to 2025. Time will tell.
And where, oh where, would the preferences of ON and Palmer most likely flow to? Their HTV pamphlets would certainly put Labor and Greens last and for those voters that wouldn't use the HTV pamphlets, they themselves would be more likely to put Labor and Greens last.But they also lost many supporters to ON and Palmer during that time. They also had a large drop in approval rating leading up to this election but they stuck with ScoMo.
I don’t think you can back either party for strong leadership at the moment. Too many selfish politicians in it for themselvesMatter of time before Shorten knives another one.
I have a bridge for sale that you can buy.Agree Assassin. But I believe that a majority will support a hard nosed leader like Dutton.
I'm not saying any of the sort. I'm just saying that Libs won't go for a spill before the next election.And where, oh where, would the preferences of ON and Palmer most likely flow to? Their HTV pamphlets would certainly put Labor and Greens last and for those voters that wouldn't use the HTV pamphlets, they themselves would be more likely to put Labor and Greens last.
This is the same argument you're using as Joe Hildebrand (he actually had an article that told Labor voters to vote for Josh Frydenburg) and Fairfax (JAmes MAssola's article if everyone knew Jenny Morrisson, Scott Morrisson would never lose an election) about being balanced and in the centre. It's not.
Because they knew they wouldn't do any better under Dutton and didn't want to elect a moderate. Those lost voters were more a reflection of hard right Abbott voters being pissed off they replaced him with a moderate in Turbull, IMO. That's the dilemma for the Libs. If they go more to the centre, they alienate the hard righties, but someone like Dutton is just about the last guy moderate Liberals and swing voters want leading the party.But they also lost many supporters to ON and Palmer during that time. They also had a large drop in approval rating leading up to this election but they stuck with ScoMo.
They wouldn't have dropped ScoMo for Dutton. They would have dropped him for Frydenberg. It's the smarter decision. Dutton is less liked.Because they knew they wouldn't do any better under Dutton and didn't want to elect a moderate. Those lost voters were more a reflection of hard right Abbott voters being pissed off they replaced him with a moderate in Turbull, IMO. That's the dilemma for the Libs. If they go more to the centre, they alienate the hard righties, but someone like Dutton is just about the last guy moderate Liberals and swing voters want leading the party.
So she’s saying the Liberals chartered two boats, filled them with Sri Lankans and sent them to Australian as part of an election stunt?Or it arrived late & Libs couldn't save us before the election last Saturday. Or instead of 2 there were more
I think they would have gone with Dutton. Frydenberg may have been the more sensible option, but the right faction wouldn't have allowed it to happen. Probably just as well they stuck with ScoMo, Dutton has the personality of a wet sock and Frydenberg neglected his electorate and ended up losing his seat. Imagine if the Libs had won and the PM lost his seat in the same election That would have to have been a first....lolThey wouldn't have dropped ScoMo for Dutton. They would have dropped him for Frydenberg. It's the smarter decision. Dutton is less liked.
On second thought, they aren't the smartest party.
Ok fine but they didn't lose supporters/voters to ON/Palmer, they knew in the polls it may have looked that way but come election time preferences would handle themselves.I'm not saying any of the sort. I'm just saying that Libs won't go for a spill before the next election.
No she's saying Sri Lankan authorities filled those boats up and sent them as an election stunt, which would've been repaid under the guise of some bogus foreign aid donation.So she’s saying the Liberals chartered two boats, filled them with Sri Lankans and sent them to Australian as part of an election stunt?
Did someone pay u to be a liberal apologist (coz no idiot would do it for free)?Wow did someone dare you to exaggerate as much as possible?
Butchered covid? How did we compare to the rest of the world?
Stinks at international relations? Is that code for doesn’t lick China’s arse?
Both parties did zip on climate change, it’s just Labor promised a bees dick more & you must know different types of women than me. On that, do you think it would be a good idea to make one of the “mean girls”, Katie Gallagher minister for women?
No she isn't. Read it again. I was told April 26 there would be 2 boats coming, allegedly facilitated by Sri Lankan authorities, due to arrive by May 21. Described as an “election stunt”. I couldn’t verify.So she’s saying the Liberals chartered two boats, filled them with Sri Lankans and sent them to Australian as part of an election stunt?
So your argument was that since Labour got in, people smugglers would be 'wringing their hands' (I assume in glee) yet Labour turned around a refugee boat. Ok - brilliant.
Which seems logical, except Palmer threatened to put Libs last and ON put Labor ahead of Libs in some areas. Not that the LNP would have predicted that.Ok fine but they didn't lose supporters/voters to ON/Palmer, they knew in the polls it may have looked that way but come election time preferences would handle themselves.
John Howard did it with Pauline Hanson, when One Nation first came out and Scomo did it in 2019, their internal polling would have taken all this into account.
Hmm yes it sounds a bit ridiculous and if it did happen anyone in Australia with knowledge of it should go to jailNo she's saying Sri Lankan authorities filled those boats up and sent them as an election stunt, which would've been repaid under the guise of some bogus foreign aid donation.