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Question as Australians how has trump affected our day to day lives?
Wait a while until the full impacts of his trade war take effect. Haha

It’s not really about what he has done to us.... you could ask his supporters a similar question. What has he done FOR them. He’s the most powerful politician in the world.... it’s more about what he represents and what he has the potential to do.

He’s also far from a friend of the environment and that is already impacting on people around the world.... but they is far from a trump problem, it’s a global problem thst has been brewing for a long time.... it’s just a shame some current world leaders aren’t doing more meaningful things to address it.
 

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I think we should agree politically speaking we will never agree lol. But can we at least agree christians don’t deserve to be bashed for having their own beliefs and speaking them? Just as I’m against your political angles as I believe you’ll go to hell :p it doesn’t mean I have the right to bash you and shut your speech down.
Agreed. But if they willingly sign an employment contract which calls for a certain level of restraint, it’s their own choice to sign snd they should be bound to it. :p
 

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Pretty cynical to cell Sanders an idiot.... he’s no idiot..... an idealist, definitely, a politician, most certainly.... but st heart a very good man who is not lacking in brains.

The rest I agree with pretty wholeheartedly.
He's a Socialist. Idiocy comes with the Territory.

Honestly he's not an idiot but he's too unwavering and nieve. If he played the game he could have won the last election. But he wasn't focused on winning. He was focused on selling his unwavering Socialism.
 

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Agreed. But if they willingly sign an employment contract which calls for a certain level of restraint, it’s their own choice to sign snd they should be bound to it. :p
Haha agreed. But let’s first make sure we know a hundred percent what was in the contract haha. See I’m not too bad for a nazi. I’m able to accept people have different opinions albeit blasphemous ones and outright wrong factually, but I still won’t bash or attack you physically unless you start calling for actual killings and physical harm towards those you don’t like politically like me lol.
 

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Wait a while until the full impacts of his trade war take effect. Haha

It’s not really about what he has done to us.... you could ask his supporters a similar question. What has he done FOR them. He’s the most powerful politician in the world.... it’s more about what he represents and what he has the potential to do.

He’s also far from a friend of the environment and that is already impacting on people around the world.... but they is far from a trump problem, it’s a global problem thst has been brewing for a long time.... it’s just a shame some current world leaders aren’t doing more meaningful things to address it.
Lol the earth isn’t princess or a girl. It’s a strong masculine man that is able to withstand through millions of years of evolution. Which includes the likes of ice ages that happened through climate change without mankind present. The trees thrive on the pollution anyway. Also the green new deal will never happen!!!!!
 

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He's a Socialist. Idiocy comes with the Territory.

Honestly he's not an idiot but he's too unwavering and nieve. If he played the game he could have won the last election. But he wasn't focused on winning. He was focused on selling his unwavering Socialism.
Yeah apparently there is a difference between what sanders is trying to sell and what Denmark have which lefties like to use as a banner for socialism working.
I think Denmark is like only socialist in one aspect but still has a capitalist economy? I might be wrong so please correct where I am lol. I definitely do know that what sanders wants is almost full blown Leninism as opposed to what Denmark has
 

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He's a Socialist. Idiocy comes with the Territory.

Honestly he's not an idiot but he's too unwavering and nieve. If he played the game he could have won the last election. But he wasn't focused on winning. He was focused on selling his unwavering Socialism.
He’s a social democrat.... and that is a system that works pretty well in the Nordic countries.... I agree he kinda shot for the moon and his goals may have lacked pragmatism at times.... but he did pretty well for a candidate who didn’t have hillary’s Media platform. I font think he really expected the level
Of support he received... I think he mainly wanted to plant a seed and start a conversation. But having received so much support last time, why wouldn’t he throw his hat in the ring again?
 

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Eh. You're all going to burn in the Underworld.
 

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Lol the earth isn’t princess or a girl. It’s a strong masculine man that is able to withstand through millions of years of evolution. Which includes the likes of ice ages that happened through climate change without mankind present. The trees thrive on the pollution anyway. Also the green new deal will never happen!!!!!
Yes, the planet will
Endure....it’s humans and other members of the animal kingdom who are under threat.
 

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Yeah apparently there is a difference between what sanders is trying to sell and what Denmark have which lefties like to use as a banner for socialism working.
I think Denmark is like only socialist in one aspect but still has a capitalist economy? I might be wrong so please correct where I am lol. I definitely do know that what sanders wants is almost full blown Leninism as opposed to what Denmark has
Yeah. You're talking about the Nordic system which is known by many names. The main one being Capitalistic Socialism. It allows for social economic factors while also allowing capitalistic companies to thrive without restriction. And it works great.
 

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Lol the earth isn’t princess or a girl. It’s a strong masculine man that is able to withstand through millions of years of evolution. Which includes the likes of ice ages that happened through climate change without mankind present. The trees thrive on the pollution anyway. Also the green new deal will never happen!!!!!
PS the earth isn’t a strong masculine man, it’s an Amazon warrior princess who will rip your balls out snd carry them around in a pickle jar if you don’t start showing her more respect :p
 

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I think there's smoke because people are microanalyzing the tiny embers.

Sure, he has shown much racism. But he's not a covert guy. What you see is what you get. If he truly was a full on KKK racist then we'd know about it.

The fact is that Trump as a full on racist is an easy sell, 'cause he's an idiot. Lead him into a rant that could be construed as racist, and he will take that rant and make himself look like an idiot.

Politicians are all *****. There's very few that are good and the ones that are don't survive in politics. Hilary Clinton, complete arsehole. Sanders, I like him but he's an idiot and a hypocrite. He's selling a false dream that even he doesn't believe in. In American politics the only one who I believe actually backs what they are saying is AOC. I may not agree with her much but I fully respect her for her character and dedication, even if she says stupid things occasionally (Trump says more stupid things)

Australian politicians are no better. We have ScoMo pretending that he cares about climate change while donating money to pacific islands as a wya to stave off the fact that we've done nothing about climate change. Then we have people like Di Natale who are happy to support environmental policy as long as it matches the policies they are backing. Raise an alternative that's more viable and he acts like you murdered his mother.

Politicians are pricks. All of them. Not one party deserves anything. They're all idiots.
He doesnt need to be full on KKK to be completely anti non white.

My post was pointing out the history of trump and theres too much smoke to say that he is only racist against certain races rather than the whole lot, ie non white

In regards to Sanders, above you say that he doesnt believe in his dream and then go on to say that hes defending an ideology "socialism"

Which is it?

Sanders more so than anyone has the track record from his political movements to backup what he says.

The criticisms I've seen of him, by those dim witted conservatives, is that Sanders argues for socialism but then made millions out of book sales. Which clearly suggests those dim wits arent paying attention to what hes saying and can only process short slogans like "commies","socialism equals ussr", etc etc. When in fact Sanders making millions out of book sales is COMPLETELY compatible with the democratic socialist he describes. There is no hypocrisy (mind you I'm not saying you hacky, that's the only supposed hypocritical thing I've seen him attacked on)

Whereas for AOC, theres been a couple of items which were completely taken out of context and blown out of proportion by conservatives, it was basically defamatory and slander. Those green trains replacing airplanes being one such example (I dont remember the full details because it was so long ago but conservatives stretched that for as much as they could and again the simple minded slogan brigade bought it and ran with it)
 

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He’s a social democrat.... and that is a system that works pretty well in the Nordic countries.... I agree he kinda shot for the moon and his goals may have lacked pragmatism at times.... but he did pretty well for a candidate who didn’t have hillary’s Media platform. I font think he really expected the level
Of support he received... I think he mainly wanted to plant a seed and start a conversation. But having received so much support last time, why wouldn’t he throw his hat in the ring again?
Yeah, I agree with the stuff Sanders backed to the most part. He wasn't pure Nordic model though. Democratic Socialism has many forms. The Nordic model is Democratic Socialism with Capitalism. Aka Capitalistic Socialism. It's a big step from what Sanders sells. Main part being that under the Nordic model corporations operate on low tax with National interests.

Sanders model of Democratic Socialism super taxed Corporations and drive trade off shore.
 

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PS the earth isn’t a strong masculine man, it’s an Amazon warrior princess who will rip your balls out snd carry them around in a pickle jar if you don’t start showing her more respect :p
Lmfao Mother Earth with all her empowering wisdom caused evolution to make me the dominant sex of mankind and have me balls. She will never be a hypocrite and take them back. She likes to be dominated by man.
 

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Yeah, I agree with the stuff Sanders backed to the most part. He wasn't pure Nordic model though. Democratic Socialism has many forms. The Nordic model is Democratic Socialism with Capitalism. Aka Capitalistic Socialism. It's a big step from what Sanders sells. Main part being that under the Nordic model corporations operate on low tax with National interests.

Sanders model of Democratic Socialism super taxed Corporations and drive trade off shore.
Yeah that’s a fair distinction
 

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He doesnt need to be full on KKK to be completely anti non white.

My post was pointing out the history of trump and theres too much smoke to say that he is only racist against certain races rather than the whole lot, ie non white

In regards to Sanders, above you say that he doesnt believe in his dream and then go on to say that hes defending an ideology "socialism"

Which is it?

Sanders more so than anyone has the track record from his political movements to backup what he says.

The criticisms I've seen of him, by those dim witted conservatives, is that Sanders argues for socialism but then made millions out of book sales. Which clearly suggests those dim wits arent paying attention to what hes saying and can only process short slogans like "commies","socialism equals ussr", etc etc. When in fact Sanders making millions out of book sales is COMPLETELY compatible with the democratic socialist he describes. There is no hypocrisy (mind you I'm not saying you hacky, that's the only supposed hypocritical thing I've seen him attacked on)

Whereas for AOC, theres been a couple of items which were completely taken out of context and blown out of proportion by conservatives, it was basically defamatory and slander. Those green trains replacing airplanes being one such example (I dont remember the full details because it was so long ago but conservatives stretched that for as much as they could and again the simple minded slogan brigade bought it and ran with it)
With Sanders it's not so much that he doesn't believe in what he preaches. What I meant is that he believes in lieu of fact. If an opposing fact comes up then he ignores it. Like all politicians.

The hypocrisy was a dig at the minimum wage controversy that came out showing that he was pushing for a higher minimum wage while paying his own staff below that minimum wage.

I never had issue with him making money from book sales. That's just smart marketing.

AOC said a couple of stupid things as I pointed out. Nowhere near as stupid as Trump though. But comments like "if we don't stop Fossil Fuels immediately the world will end in 12 years". Then when questioned about it she said, "obviously that was a metaphor", but she couldn't explain how it was a metaphor.
 

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Lmfao Mother Earth with all her empowering wisdom caused evolution to make me the dominant sex of mankind and have me balls. She will never be a hypocrite and take them back. She likes to be dominated by man.
Nah. That's wasn't mother earth that gave you balls. That was God. She gave you balls. That's proud black female deity gave you balls.
 

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With Sanders it's not so much that he doesn't believe in what he preaches. What I meant is that he believes in lieu of fact. If an opposing fact comes up then he ignores it. Like all politicians.

The hypocrisy was a dig at the minimum wage controversy that came out showing that he was pushing for a higher minimum wage while paying his own staff below that minimum wage.

I never had issue with him making money from book sales. That's just smart marketing.

AOC said a couple of stupid things as I pointed out. Nowhere near as stupid as Trump though. But comments like "if we don't stop Fossil Fuels immediately the world will end in 12 years". Then when questioned about it she said, "obviously that was a metaphor", but she couldn't explain how it was a metaphor.
I believe the 12 years thing was in reference to some studies saying that if we dont do anything in 12 years we pass the point of no return as far as our climate is concerned.

So yes not an exact correct description but based on those studies 12 years was the period where we have to act
 

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Nah. That's wasn't mother earth that gave you balls. That was God. She gave you balls. That's proud black female deity gave you balls.
Hahaha stop with the blasphemy!!!!! Either way if god was a strong empowered black girl she’d be a hater of her own kind as she made men dominant of mankind. Or maybe when we die she’ll be waiting for us with 72 virgins
 

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With Sanders it's not so much that he doesn't believe in what he preaches. What I meant is that he believes in lieu of fact. If an opposing fact comes up then he ignores it. Like all politicians.

The hypocrisy was a dig at the minimum wage controversy that came out showing that he was pushing for a higher minimum wage while paying his own staff below that minimum wage.

I never had issue with him making money from book sales. That's just smart marketing.

AOC said a couple of stupid things as I pointed out. Nowhere near as stupid as Trump though. But comments like "if we don't stop Fossil Fuels immediately the world will end in 12 years". Then when questioned about it she said, "obviously that was a metaphor", but she couldn't explain how it was a metaphor.
She couldn’t even name 3 things to impeach trump on after stating there’s “gosh darn so many urrrrrrr” *flaps hands intellectually in air*
 
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