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SARGE said:
Of course its real. People are in denial that the elites of this world are Luciferian and thats just part of their religion.

Easier to deny than to wake up to what this hell-hole really is...
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It's not. Pizzagate was literally a completely batshit crazy QAnon conspiracy theory that resulted in some idiot raiding a pizza place with a gun and he found nothing. Because Pizzagate was a stupid conspiracy designed to anger far right wing Trump supporters.
 
SARGE said:
Typical...
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Seen the video. Starts with another guy talking about ICE not wearing leg armour properly. He then talks about how he's spent time blocking femoral arteries. They can bleed out very quickly.

Definitely said what he said about MAGA nurses. The argument was given what they believe in, would you accept a standard of care from them.

You can take the first in a number of ways. Second is pretty clear but probably has a basis in fact. This is the new woke bro - let me say whatever I want but if you dare say something different, cancel time.

They shouldn't be political but how does it work over there - free speech and all?
 
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Hacky McAxe said:
It's not. Pizzagate was literally a completely batshit crazy QAnon conspiracy theory that resulted in some idiot raiding a pizza place with a gun and he found nothing. Because Pizzagate was a stupid conspiracy designed to anger far right wing Trump supporters.
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That pizza place might of been bullshit, but what they do to kids isn't bullshit.

I don't know what else is it going to take for people to see what's going on. How long will people just write it off as "conspiracy" or "coincidences"?

Pizza isnt just about angry MAGAtards against leftards, its the same fkn cesspool.

PS that MAGAtard actually helped everyone write it off, because all the focus is on that pizza place and not what's happening behind closed doors.

PS sorry if I came across as rude, as you know, this evil shit makes my blood boil.
 
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SARGE said:
Is it true the director or producer or whatever he is that was "hand picked" by Melania is on the Epstein list?
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Yeah. The Director/Producer was photographed with Epstein. Both of them with young women at the time.

That doesn't mean he did anything. The women look like they're at least 18 and he said he didn't know Epstein, and that's the only photo. But considering that everyone else involved with Trump stuff is also in the Epstein files, seems a bit telling.
 
Hacky McAxe said:
Yeah. The Director/Producer was photographed with Epstein. Both of them with young women at the time.

That doesn't mean he did anything. The women look like they're at least 18 and he said he didn't know Epstein, and that's the only photo. But considering that everyone else involved with Trump stuff is also in the Epstein files, seems a bit telling.
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What shocks me is that so many "elites" were so trusting with Epstien.

You'd think either they are that dumb or think they are untouchable. Im leaning towards the latter, as fuck all has/will happen and they will continue to fuck kids with no earthly consequences.
 
SARGE said:
That pizza place might of been bullshit, but what they do to kids isn't bullshit.

I don't know what else is it going to take for people to see what's going on. How long will people just write it off as "conspiracy" or "coincidences"?

Pizza isnt just about angry MAGAtards against leftards, its the same fkn cesspool.

PS that MAGAtard actually helped everyone write it off, because all the focus is on that pizza place and not what's happening behind closed doors.
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There's definitely an issue there with the elites. The problem is that things like Pizzagate are a distraction from the real problem.

QAnon started Pizzagate as a conspiracy to say that Democrats were trafficking children and Trump was there to stop it. Turns out that the people closest to Trump were the ones trafficking children. And now that Trump is in power with full control of the justice system, these same people aren't ever going to be punished.

That's why stuff like Pizzagate gives me the shits. It's a distraction. People focus on conspiracies like this and miss the actual problem, and as a result the actual guilty people get away with it.
 
SARGE said:
Of course its real. People are in denial that the elites of this world are Luciferian and thats just part of their religion.

Easier to deny than to wake up to what this hell-hole really is...
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More people than I ever expected, saw Melinda Gates ex reiterate just how happy she is to be out of that scene...
 
Hacky McAxe said:
There's definitely an issue there with the elites. The problem is that things like Pizzagate are a distraction from the real problem.

QAnon started Pizzagate as a conspiracy to say that Democrats were trafficking children and Trump was there to stop it. Turns out that the people closest to Trump were the ones trafficking children. And now that Trump is in power with full control of the justice system, these same people aren't ever going to be punished.

That's why stuff like Pizzagate gives me the shits. It's a distraction. People focus on conspiracies like this and miss the actual problem, and as a result the actual guilty people get away with it.
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Yeah, you get me.

You are just more eloquent than I am lol
 
Trinfly said:
More people than I ever expected, saw Melinda Gates ex reiterate just how happy she is to be out of that scene...
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Apparently she HATED Epstein and hated her nerd husband hanging out with him.
 
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Hacky McAxe said:
Yeah. The Director/Producer was photographed with Epstein. Both of them with young women at the time.

That doesn't mean he did anything. The women look like they're at least 18 and he said he didn't know Epstein, and that's the only photo. But considering that everyone else involved with Trump stuff is also in the Epstein files, seems a bit telling.
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Hes also been accused of sexual harassment by mature age women as well, hasn't he?
 
SARGE said:
What shocks me is that so many "elites" were so trusting with Epstien.

You'd think either they are that dumb or think they are untouchable. Im leaning towards the latter, as fuck all has/will happen and they will continue to fuck kids with no earthly consequences.
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I'm not sure you are reading this correctly.

Got no doubts at all what we've seen is very selective. And if you take Epstein out of it, maybe the Clinton jacuzzi photo and the Prince Andy photo are the only ones where you'd even go hmmm. And you go hmmm harder because they are Epstein photos.

The rest are pretty low rent. Now that Melania director photo - he's saying that was his fiance at the time. True, no idea.

My guess is the really good stuff, the stuff that nails people to the wall has never been found. It would explain everything. If Epstein was really doing the blackmail thing, the good stuff is hiding in the deepest most inaccessible hole you can probably imagine. And given his connections, I would imagine its really deep. And that is why I reckon the Dems couldn't at least pick off some easy targets. The evidence just isn't there.

Mind you, I reckon there's reams you cannot arrest TPT on but would trash his public image. And thats the stuff the Govt are redacting or not releasing.

As for people associating with him, dude had connections to world leaders, top of the dollar world and top of the education world. And for most of this, he had a guilty plea of one count of procuring a child for prostitution and soliciting. Now he argues to anyone that listens he didn't know her age and didn't think it was prostitution, I just hooked up a mate and its sort of believable if you want to believe it. And you want to believe it. He's connected.
 
Doogie said:
I'm not sure you are reading this correctly.

Got no doubts at all what we've seen is very selective. And if you take Epstein out of it, maybe the Clinton jacuzzi photo and the Prince Andy photo are the only ones where you'd even go hmmm. And you go hmmm harder because they are Epstein photos.

The rest are pretty low rent. Now that Melania director photo - he's saying that was his fiance at the time. True, no idea.

My guess is the really good stuff, the stuff that nails people to the wall has never been found. It would explain everything. If Epstein was really doing the blackmail thing, the good stuff is hiding in the deepest most inaccessible hole you can probably imagine. And given his connections, I would imagine its really deep. And that is why I reckon the Dems couldn't at least pick off some easy targets. The evidence just isn't there.

Mind you, I reckon there's reams you cannot arrest TPT on but would trash his public image. And thats the stuff the Govt are redacting or not releasing.

As for people associating with him, dude had connections to world leaders, top of the dollar world and top of the education world. And for most of this, he had a guilty plea of one count of procuring a child for prostitution and soliciting. Now he argues to anyone that listens he didn't know her age and didn't think it was prostitution, I just hooked up a mate and its sort of believable if you want to believe it. And you want to believe it. He's connected.
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You and I know where the "good stuff" is and who will use it to his advantage IE getting rid of the last country thats in his way of his "greater" plan...

I know you're not in to religion (thats fine and none of my business) but I have been reading into all "types" of religion, the shit they are doing is textbook doctrine for them. I've been studying for over 2 decades now.

Whatever you or I or the average useless eater believes means sweet FA, only thing that matters is what the elites believe and who they serve.
 
PS im sure I'm not the only one that knows the real reason for the "delay" of the release was to add unbelievable bullshit, misinfo and disinfo, so the average punter just writes the whole thing off as bullshit.

Everyone is talking about the redactions and totally miss the additions.

If it weren't so evil I'd call it genius.
 
The more you look at Epstein, the more you go hmmm... Here's some facts that are not under dispute.

No doubts at all based on the emails and messages that plenty of people knew what he was up to. Yet.... nothing. For years.

On July 6 2019, Epstein was arrested in NY. Now that warrant said he was arrested for stuff between 2002 and 2005. This was the case that he'd been given immunity for. Now is it possible they had other stuff on him and that was the reason for the warrant - sure. But thats what the warrant says and if you didn't have other stuff on him, thats a big call to arrest a high wealth individual on something 15+ years ago that he probably has immunity for.

Now who charged him? Geoff Berman. He was appointed as acting AG directly by Jeff Sessions (TPT apptee) and that job only holds until TPT nominates someone and the Senate tick it. TPT never nom'd anyone so he stayed in the job until he decided to leave in 2020.

Juy 18 - Now he applies for bail. $100M plus apartment confinement. Who knocked that back because of flight risk? Richard Berman. Bill Clinton apptee. And yes. Its a coincidence they are both called Berman.

August 10 he committed 'suicide'. August 29 Berman (the G) closed the case with no finding.

And to finish off the facts. Ghislane was done for those 2002 - 2005 activities. Nothing else. And she broke up with Epstein in 2006. Epsteins GF from 2010 onwards was Karyna Shuliak. A good enough GF that she scored $50M+ in the will. And I bet you have never heard of her. Now Ghislaine was done on 1 count of sex trafficking kids, 1 of transporting a kid for it and 3 counts of choate felonies (no idea what that is). She got 65 years. Now she got 40 years for the trafficking (min penalty is 10 years for the age) and 10 years for driving them there. They were very hefty penalties given the charges.

Now for the theories.

Now we have a guy with resources and connections galore who decided to kill himself rather than face trial. And the only reason for this is he had all this dirt on wealthy people which so far, to be frank, has been very underwhelming. And he has a very solid case that he had immunity from prosecution. That question was still up in the air when he died. So it really doesn't make a lot of sense he would off himself.

So lets say he had some dirt. What could be in that dirt that suddenly out of the blue TPT called in the dogs? So one thing I did is went back and had a look at what TPT was up to in early 2019. And guess what I found...

The release of the Mueller Report. And that report was crystal clear. Russians definitely played in the 2016 election. No one could prove TPT knew about it. And the redacted version of that report was released in April 2019. So Epstein would know directly or indirectly what was in it. If there was proof TPT knew about the Russians, TPT is goneski.

So what if a guy who has very good Russian connections got the proof of TPT knowing and got in touch and said, whats it worth to you? Now at that point I'm guessing someone real close has warned him what this means. No doubts Epstein had great Russian connections. And the timeline fits. And everything after that also fits.

The only missing piece of this theory is if Epstein had the goods and did he speak to him. Or alternatively, did TPT know he had the goods and was worried about Epstein going public. I'd lean more towards the first purely as it fits what the narrative is about the bloke. Information peddler and not averse to a little blackmail.

So whats the next step? Epstein might have the goods so we subpoena everything. Didn't find what we are looking for so it may still be out there. So we got to discredit the guy. Play up the pedo narrative and the cabal, we know we got some saucy stuff but nothing that really sticks or is too over the top. So we play the crowd saying nothing to see, drip it out, the public sees its nothing to see and Epstein is discredited.

Only problem is the regime revved the public too much with conspiracies. Now they are the conspiracy for hiding the good stuff. And Ghislaine is still kicking and if she has an accident thats too much of a coincidence. So lets upgrade her accom and dangle a pardon to keep her quiet. Or shes playing the regime as well. Either or - same outcome.

But there is one series of events that are not debateable. TPT sent the dogs in on 15 year old events when it was very likely he'd have immunity. As history has shown, he only sends the dogs in when he perceives you as an enemy, public opinion is massive and its a political win or there's a grift. Epstein could have paid his way out of a grift. There was no public opinion on Epstein until he was done and the victims came forward again. So that leaves the enemy.

Ahhh the Epstein rabbit hole. Thats been fun.
 
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