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I cant understand the negative comments. The USA was an abysmal mess under Obama.
Trump stated he would fix it (Drain the swamp).
He has done that. He has the place really jumping. Employment is the highest ever.
Stock exchange is at record levels.
And mainly, he has not committed any criminality to justify impeachment.
 

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I cant understand the negative comments. The USA was an abysmal mess under Obama.
Trump stated he would fix it (Drain the swamp).
He has done that. He has the place really jumping. Employment is the highest ever.
Stock exchange is at record levels.
And mainly, he has not committed any criminality to justify impeachment.
Racist defends racist, I'm shook aye.
 

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I cant understand the negative comments. The USA was an abysmal mess under Obama.
Trump stated he would fix it (Drain the swamp).
He has done that. He has the place really jumping. Employment is the highest ever.
Stock exchange is at record levels.
And mainly, he has not committed any criminality to justify impeachment.

Trump hasn't drained any swamp, he IS the swamp... I know he's not a moron, and how he acts is mostly calculated.. but the problem is, his followers start to act like him, and they think it's ok to talk to, and treat people the way that he does... by all means I'm not going to say he has created the narcissistic self-centred culture that we live in today, but he's certainly part of the problem
 

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Trump hasn't drained any swamp, he IS the swamp... I know he's not a moron, and how he acts is mostly calculated.. but the problem is, his followers start to act like him, and they think it's ok to talk to, and treat people the way that he does... by all means I'm not going to say he has created the narcissistic self-centred culture that we live in today, but he's certainly part of the problem
I just like the way he owned Jeb Bush in the republican debates.

No one actually thought he was going to become president to begin with.
 

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I just like the way he owned Jeb Bush in the republican debates.

No one actually thought he was going to become president to begin with.

Nobody, except those who matter.. elections are about as legit as the Roosters salary cap
 

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You don't even need to do any in-depth research to realise that Trump is the ultimate trickster.. and I'm certainly not implying that he didn't work hard to achieve what he did.. I just find it hard to fathom that his voters believe that he is who he says he is, when he is the biggest fraud out.. as we have discussed, his cabinet is full of Soros and Rothschilds affiliates, so we know he isn't the "outsider" that he claims to be.... and of course his faith facade... the guy can barely hold a Bible without looking uncomfortable
I don't think there are to many politicians in the USA who could hold a bible and not feel uncomfortable especially the one he stopped from becoming the first female president
 

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I don't think there are to many politicians in the USA who could hold a bible and not feel uncomfortable especially the one he stopped from becoming the first female president
They're better than our politicians who like to be all PC and swear on a Quran.

E.g Ed Husic a Bosnian non practising muslim being the first to do so.

He didn't do it at all to gather favour from a particular religious group to win votes. No not at all!
 

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You don't even need to do any in-depth research to realise that Trump is the ultimate trickster.. and I'm certainly not implying that he didn't work hard to achieve what he did.. I just find it hard to fathom that his voters believe that he is who he says he is, when he is the biggest fraud out.. as we have discussed, his cabinet is full of Soros and Rothschilds affiliates, so we know he isn't the "outsider" that he claims to be.... and of course his faith facade... the guy can barely hold a Bible without looking uncomfortable
Indeed! I don’t care for any politician let alone keep up with current affairs regarding them, you got to hand it to Trump though, he has his finger on the pulse of the majority of the people and knows how to bend them to his will! Regardless, every world leader aren’t elected, they are selected, by groups like you mentioned Rothchilds etc
 

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Indeed! I don’t care for any politician let alone keep up with current affairs regarding them, you got to hand it to Trump though, he has his finger on the pulse of the majority of the people and knows how to bend them to his will! Regardless, every world leader aren’t elected, they are selected, by groups like you mentioned Rothchilds etc
Most messed up thing about Trump is he never actually wanted to be President.
 

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trump wants to be impeached to save himself from losing at the election, if the republican senate convicts him then its definitely the case

everyone thought Hillary Clinton would win and he still got 3 million less votes, now when the normal people are more desperate to vote its going to be worse for him
 

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Hmmmm, no more impeachment talk because of Iran talk. Perfect timing...
 

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I googled these, hence wouldn't know it at the time but have anyways looked at it both from a normal reporting and factcheck links.

The above statement was in the context of a larger issue and not poverty alone. The full quote being "When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car".

Hence, in the context of all the quote, I think Bernie was making a point about systematic racism and poverty cropped onto that systematic racism. White's would not understand this. In any case Bernie's pro-poor socialist policies do not say "for the benefit of non-whites only", they cover anyone who is poor. I'd personally put that down to a freudian slip rather than anything malicious, because when you take any other speeches about benefiting poor people, Bernie includes everyone.



Yep wrong data used, however again, I'd take all of his speeches, about this topic, into consideration before making an assessment if he's a liar or not. Why? None of these politicians go researching stats and data themselves, they have staff who go out and find those details. As much as politicians would like to attract honest, intelligent, attention to detail staff, the plain fact is they don't. Hence from time to time you get these sort of anomalies. Just look at Trump, he doesn't do the research, he uses scum buckets like Stephen Miller to do his research, to write his policies, to deal with the nitty gritty stuff

Now at this stage you may think I'm making excuses, but as I said, I don't take one off statements as the check-mate move, for me personally there has to be several instances of misusing data on that issue where I think that particular politician is full of shit.





I'm adding the pulling troops out and Maduro ones together because they deal with appeasing domestic policies and acting out foreign policies.

Every politician is full of shit when it comes to this topic, there isn't a single politician who is even close to telling somewhat of the truth. Simply because domestic populations do not understand foreign policy. Unfortunately politicians have to appease the domestic population because the majority of domestic population are friggin morons. It's all well and good to say I'm going to pull out troops from Afghanistan and Iraq, however the fact of the matter is there are massive logistic, political issues in doing so (e.g. Turkish slaughter of Kurds which funnily enough all the pro-Trump idiots went eerily quiet because of Trump's screw up).

The logistics of pulling out of Afghanistan only the sitting government/president can know, no one else. Because it's top secret issues no one else has a right to see the data. So any politician who isn't president or in the sitting government, is just blowing smoke of what they'd like to happen but deep down they know there's no way in hell anyone can confirm until they get all the briefs from the military.

Maduro this is as much the same as the above predicament. Once you come into Presidency, the fact of the matter is you're going to have to deal with Maduro in trying to resolve the situation in Venezuela. So calling him a dictator is not going be of benefit, if Bernie becomes president and then has to deal with him. For years the US did not hold talks with Kim Jong Un, until up steps this orange oompa loompa moron. Trump gave Kim Jong recognition by meeting him and that North Korea had equal footing at the foreign diplomacy talks. In a series of meet and greets, Trump completely gave away USA's bargaining chip, i.e international legitimacy recognition for Kim Jong. What was the result of these talks? Absolutely nothing, Kim Jong played Trump like an idiot. So yes Bernie is going to stop short of calling maduro a dictator, because unfortunately thats the nature of the beast of foreign policy, keep the door closed enough so it's just ajar for the dictator to make the right moves and come to the table.

It's all foreign policy mate, it's quite a different political world than domestic policy. You're dealing with appeasing your public, doing things in the best interest of your nation (this doesn't mean the right things), appeasing your allies, fighting proxy wars, etc etc.



While there aren't any conclusive studies in regards to how many people will be displaced, I hardly think saying hundreds of millions of people will be displaced is out of whack. It's a reasonable assumption, nothing wrong with it.
Pardon the delayed response mate - I do not come onto the website during my time off.

But I bolded the part that says it all for me. I just had to prove he was a liar, and have done so :P
 

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Hmmmm, no more impeachment talk because of Iran talk. Perfect timing...
Nah, discussion is still in full swing. These articles are all in the last 12 hours. We're just not getting much of it in Australia 'cause we're too focused on the fires

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/lin...tart-trump-impeachment-trial-within-days.html

https://time.com/5759098/lindsey-graham-senate-impeachment-trial/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...al-lawmakers-return-d-c-here-s-where-n1109811
 

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Nah, discussion is still in full swing. These articles are all in the last 12 hours. We're just not getting much of it in Australia 'cause we're too focused on the fires

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/lin...tart-trump-impeachment-trial-within-days.html

https://time.com/5759098/lindsey-graham-senate-impeachment-trial/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...al-lawmakers-return-d-c-here-s-where-n1109811
He wont get impeached but wouldn't it be good, so yet another warzone doesn't open up.
 

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I thought he would get impeached, and I hope he does. he is a dangerous man. If he had full leeway, even more so this whole world would be in dyer..!!!

He is like hitler, Obama was much better and had better intentions..!! FULL STOP.
 

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Nah, discussion is still in full swing. These articles are all in the last 12 hours. We're just not getting much of it in Australia 'cause we're too focused on the fires

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/lin...tart-trump-impeachment-trial-within-days.html

https://time.com/5759098/lindsey-graham-senate-impeachment-trial/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...al-lawmakers-return-d-c-here-s-where-n1109811
Have you been following it? Is he going to get the boot?
 

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Have you been following it? Is he going to get the boot?
Trump is zero % change of getting the boot.

Even in the Congress where the democrats have the majority, the only people to vote against party lines were Democrats (a few of them voted against impeachment, along with 100% of republicans).

In the Senate where the Republicans have the majority, it would be a surprise if even one senator voted for impeachment.

The whole thing has been a side show and the Democrats are going to get severely owned in the 2020 presidential election.
 

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Over it aye, when a president spends so much time on social media and always wanting to be seen an heard.. you know the intentions aren’t good.!!

self image, and trying to build a Cruel world and bring it into disrepair.
That's a simplistic analysis.

The whole reason Trump has been successful is because he has highlighted the current issue facing many western countries - the gap between the haves and have nots, elites versus the workers.

It's no longer about conservative versus progressive. It's more globalists versus nationalists.

The same story has played out in the UK with Brexit and to a lesser extent in AUstralia.

One reason Trump has been effective is that he has a 'direct line' to voters through twitter etc.

THe main stream media are generally part of the elites and they have tried to bring Trump down for the 3 years of his presidency. Twitter is Trumps insurance policy.
 
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