Tonga just got screwed out of the greatest comeback in history

[Bob dog]

It was the correct decision, it doesn't matter if it was knocked out, it came out and wasn't grounded.

 

[Dognacious]

Not a try. Close but no cigar. Good fightback from Tonga, they left it way too late though.

 

[Rodzilla]

Just to clarify I have read a couple of times now that if Whitehead deliberately attempted to dislodge the ball then it's deemed a strip and play on, versus if he only attempted to make a tackle and his arm unintentionally knocked the ball out then it's a knock on. Do others agree this is the rule?

Will be checking on the replay today to have another look. As others have said how the ref couldn't go upstairs is wrong.

yeah i think you have to be playing at the ball, like when you wrap your arms around to make a tackle and touch the ball that was passed its not 6 again

 

[Kennelnator]

Correct decision everyday of the week.

Chicken legs was right there and there was no way he should of sent it upstairs. The most frustrating decisions are when a try is scored in the corner and the ref and touchie are within a bees dick of the try and they send it upstairs.

Most tackles that are made is to secure the arm carrying the ball or trying to dislodge the ball with a hard "impact hit". A strip is when you have your arm on the ball or are holding the ball carriers arm and you rip the ball out of the players hand or push the ball out of their hands.

Fifita has himself to blame for his style of ball carrying, but most importantly not going through the hands as Tonga had an overlap

 

[chisdog]

lol. over 20k signatures! The result is not going to change.

I still cannot believe that Cecchin didn't think that a try scoring opportunity which decided the result of the game in a world cup semi final did not warrant video review. Regardless of whether it was a try or not, there is no way that Cecchin could of been a hundred percent certain that he got the correct call. If this is not a time to go to a video ref when do you go? The amount of times that a video ref is used when there is far more certainty that a try is scored makes the decision not to refer to the video ref even more puzzling.

Especially when the game time was up. Look at cricket where umpires go up for run outs even though they are 99.9% sure they aren't out. Why? Just to make sure the correct decision is made & because they are fixing the stumps anyway & it will not delay the game.

 

[Raikkonen]

100% lost the ball. 100% no try.

 

[Mr Invisible]

Just watched the footage... it really could have gone either way.

It does appear that the bal is stripped out, BUT the NRL always make noise about the onus being on the ball carried to ensure the ball is secure. Seen it countless times in the NRL.

So in summary:
Based on footage and logic - should be play on and a try.
Based on NRL rules and previous identical scenarios in the NRL - should have been called a knock on.

 

[EXPLORER]

100% lost the ball. 100% no try.

Correct
No doubt about it

 

[EXPLORER]

Just watched the footage... it really could have gone either way.

It does appear that the bal is stripped out, BUT the NRL always make noise about the onus being on the ball carried to ensure the ball is secure. Seen it countless times in the NRL.

So in summary:
Based on footage and logic - should be play on and a try.
Based on NRL rules and previous identical scenarios in the NRL - should have been called a knock on.

Was cleared by archer
So must have been the right call

 

[Dingo]

Great tackle. Fat fuck lost the ball.

 

[Boxer]

Tongas fans want compensation lol .

 

[EXPLORER]

Tongas fans want compensation lol .

Funny
They didn't complain after they got the rub of the green against the cedars

 

[EXPLORER]

Great tackle. Fat fuck lost the ball.

Correct

 

[Boxer]

Funny
They didn't complain after they got the rub of the green against the cedars

Exactly!!!
We should be compensated lol

 

[Mr 95%]

Tonga making the final would've taken League up to another level in the Island nations.

This whole World Cup was rigged to make it an Australia vs England GF

Absolutely..Meninga vs Bennett..

Tonga’s run has probably lifted League already.. And thinking about it..their success was probably scripted too!

 

[The Innovator]

What a ridiculous thread to start. It was a loose carry FFS.
We shit on refs for continuously going to the video ref and when he doesn’t we get the shits.
Why take look after look after look and then say no try.
The crowd would have got more riled.
I can’t stand Checchin, but he was spot on.

 

[Bad Billy]

If that tackle happens 10mins in on the 50m line, it gets called a knock-on and no one gives a fuck.
Doesn’t matter the gravity of the situation, the correct decision was made.

 

[Nate DAWG]

If that tackle happens 10mins in on the 50m line, it gets called a knock-on and no one gives a fuck.
Doesn’t matter the gravity of the situation, the correct decision was made.

Your right and it was probably a loose carry, but if you are not going to refer a try scoring opportunity which decides a world cup semi final then scrap the video ref system altogether. The fact that it wasn't referred is the joke. There is an argument that it was a loose carry and there is an angle that looks like it was raked out. Cecchin should of referred as a no try, the pommy video ref would of said no try and then at least a process which respected the gravity of the decision would of been followed. People are celebrating that Cecchin should be congratulated for his courage in making a correct decision and not going to the video ref. Where was his courage in awarding a penalty for the entire back line being offside on the same play??

 

[Boxer]

Your right and it was probably a loose carry, but if you are not going to refer a try scoring opportunity which decides a world cup semi final then scrap the video ref system altogether. The fact that it wasn't referred is the joke. There is an argument that it was a loose carry and there is an angle that looks like it was raked out. Cecchin should of referred as a no try, the pommy video ref would of said no try and then at least a process which respected the gravity of the decision would of been followed. People are celebrating that Cecchin should be congratulated for his courage in making a correct decision and not going to the video ref. Where was his courage in awarding a penalty for the entire back line being offside on the same play??

Cause he called it a knock on before Fifita scored,
No need for a video ref for a on field knock on.

 

[Trendsetter]

Odd, I've seen it go against players making a tackle plenty of times who didn't even have eyes on the ball.

I've always seen it as a 50/50. Refs discretion. There's never been a black and white rule in this scenario as the rulings have always been a roll of the dice.
I've also seen balls being deliberately stripped as the defending player pulls his arm out of the tackle and it's ruled a loose carry or lost ball.

In saying that, I really couldn't agree or disagree with anyone here. In my opinion, it's a 50/50 that was left in the hands of the ref... which is wrong, because it determines the game and gives the the power and ability to decide outcomes.