Todays Issues

[wendog33]

Coalition's NBN bungle may have cost the country billions

The Coalition could have saved the country billions if it had stuck to Labor's original NBN plans and adjusted them with new technologies.

independentaustralia.net

 

[Kempsey Dog]

K.Rudd knew what was required... Libs and Murdoch fucked us all over with cheap lines

 

[speedy2460]

The major problem was it was given to Turnbull to implement. It is part of a vast amount of his failures.

 

[Wahesh]

Labor's plan was good. The coalition (Turnbull) stuffed it up for the sake of saving money so the NBN is fed directly into every street rather than directly into every home, that means that gradually as more homes on the same street receive the NBN, that streets connectivity will slow down - but it won't be that noticeable for end users. That main issue lies with connectivity reliability, rather than the speed itself.

 

[KambahOne]

The NBN was deliberately sabotaged by the Libs on orders from Rupert to protect his monopoly on TV content through Foxtel. Subscription TV via the NBN would have been in direct competition with Foxtel and as we all know, the malignant man hates competition.

 

[kungfuman]

I have fibre to my house wall and cant ask for more than that, never had a problem.

 

[wendog33]

And the favourable Murdoch media got Australians to actually accept this lol

Turnbull Hits Out Over '25Mbps Is Enough' Statement

Tony Abbott said something rather silly at the launch of the Coalition’s broadband policy, and now it’s coming back to...

www.gizmodo.com.au

 

[Eagle1]

If they had of stuck with K Rudd we'd be Infront of all other countries now W carbon emissions and fibre optic communications

 

[DinkumDog]

As usual it's a more complicated than many will accept but a sensationalist headline is exactly that...

Building fibre to the home was always about access to pit and pipe and building new fibre routes to get to all homes. This was always going to be very expensive and take years and the cost and timeline was originally grossly underestimated. Replacing that strategy with older / other technologies was also going to be tricky because although less expensive in the short term, the trade off is diminishing returns ie: over time everyone wants fibre to the home - so it's about when and could NBN Co. get a faster and cheaper way to give all homes access to broadband or better broadband than they had in 2013. Whilst it's more expensive to deploy and maintain multiple technologies (fibre HFC, satellite) rather than one technology (fibre) it could be done a lot faster than rolling out fibre (to the home) nationwide.

The only real political decision about the MTM strategy was the politics of winning - delivering 'a' solution ASAP. It wasn't about Murdoch or him pressuring the Libs despite all the gossip columnists saying so.
He's smart enough to know that longer term he was never going to beat the internet and News Corp would have to transition to digital. That's happened somewhat and continues to happen.

The end game for now remains fibre to the home - but how does that stack up against 5G+ wireless in terms of bandwidth and cost. I'm sure the taxpayers would've been thrilled to see fibre rolled out nationwide over say 25 years to then see a wireless technology perform better. That would've unleashed a whole other set of critics and whingers.

One thing NBN are guilty of in my view is wholesale pricing to access the network. It's always been too expensive, which means by the time the retailers add a margin, they struggle to make any money whilst trying to be competitive and that's created a fair bit of bad blood with NBN.

 

[Raysie]

This is the issue with Democracy. Quick fixes and no long term planning for anything. It's all about cheap election votes every few years.

Sick of politics. The lot of them couldn't organise a root in a brothel.

 

[wendog33]

This is the issue with Democracy. Quick fixes and no long term planning for anything. It's all about cheap election votes every few years.

Sick of politics. The lot of them couldn't organise a root in a brothel.

They are only interested in finding any, any at all, diversionary tactic, to critiscise, pull down, demonize and offer another "wonderful, better" way if you vote for us.

They don't care whether it costs more. Just get a platform to provide an hysterical talking point.

Pink batts. Good idea in theory. Rushed roll out wasted money. 4 guys died. Libs held a Royal Commission.

Robodebt. Didn't just affect the demonised unemployed, but also young families on Family Tax Plan. Onus on the letter receiver to prove they didn't owe thousands of dollars. Stress caused 2000 people to kill themselves. Govt. admits they knew it was illegal and refund plus interest, all the money in a Court class action.

 

[Cook]

I have fibre to my house wall and cant ask for more than that, never had a problem.

Same I have it to my house also. No complaints here

 

[Cook]

As usual it's a more complicated than many will accept but a sensationalist headline is exactly that...

Building fibre to the home was always about access to pit and pipe and building new fibre routes to get to all homes. This was always going to be very expensive and take years and the cost and timeline was originally grossly underestimated. Replacing that strategy with older / other technologies was also going to be tricky because although less expensive in the short term, the trade off is diminishing returns ie: over time everyone wants fibre to the home - so it's about when and could NBN Co. get a faster and cheaper way to give all homes access to broadband or better broadband than they had in 2013. Whilst it's more expensive to deploy and maintain multiple technologies (fibre HFC, satellite) rather than one technology (fibre) it could be done a lot faster than rolling out fibre (to the home) nationwide.

The only real political decision about the MTM strategy was the politics of winning - delivering 'a' solution ASAP. It wasn't about Murdoch or him pressuring the Libs despite all the gossip columnists saying so.
He's smart enough to know that longer term he was never going to beat the internet and News Corp would have to transition to digital. That's happened somewhat and continues to happen.

The end game for now remains fibre to the home - but how does that stack up against 5G+ wireless in terms of bandwidth and cost. I'm sure the taxpayers would've been thrilled to see fibre rolled out nationwide over say 25 years to then see a wireless technology perform better. That would've unleashed a whole other set of critics and whingers.

One thing NBN are guilty of in my view is wholesale pricing to access the network. It's always been too expensive, which means by the time the retailers add a margin, they struggle to make any money whilst trying to be competitive and that's created a fair bit of bad blood with NBN.

Are you sure, I’m hearing it’s Murdochs fault?? I’ve read it on the kennel, lol.

 

[MatstaDogg]

I never really noticed much difference between when I had ADSL and when I crossed over to the NBN.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

I never really noticed much difference between when I had ADSL and when I crossed over to the NBN.

Poor **** lol. What speeds do you get where you are?

 

[Cook]

Poor **** lol. What speeds do you get where you are?

I get all types of speed where I live. What u after??

 

[MatstaDogg]

Poor **** lol. What speeds do you get where you are?

Can't remember exactly, put its not overly fast. I do live out west though beyond the mountains. I'll run a speed check when I get home from work.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

I get all types of speed where I live. What u after??

Yh you have the good one. I got 250/25 and get there abouts with download speeds but barely half with upload. My ping also spikes when gaming if I forget to reset my router so idk what's up with that.

 

[DinkumDog]

Yh you have the good one. I got 250/25 and get there abouts with download speeds but barely half with upload. My ping also spikes when gaming if I forget to reset my router so idk what's up with that.

Do you have a static IP with the ISP?
For $5/month I’d recommend it.
NBN changes IP frequently and this can cause ping issues - tends not to happen when static.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Do you have a static IP with the ISP?
For $5/month I’d recommend it.
NBN changes IP frequently and this can cause ping issues - tends not to happen when static.

I think I remember seeing that on my account somewhere..do I need to do anything on my end of just add it to my plan and that's it?