The Real Outcomes of BLM

Nasheed

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This is my point, the peaceful BLM people get tarnished because of Anqueefa.
Too me the whole movement is mud now. I don't understand why corporates haven't clued on, but I fell the tides turning.

the whole BLM thing is too racial.
I repeatedly hear that whites should be on the negro's side because 'everyone can get behind police brutality and it affects everyone' so why make it again the blacks only? Of which they have done a crime.
Deracialise the movement and more people will get on board.
I've seen more innocent whites get brutalised than blacks on these videos. The blacks that are victims usually agitate the situation some way. The white kid who got shot in Vegas was trying his best to comply.
the cop who unloaded into the kid got off on the basis of 'don't hate the player hate the game' and that the cop just followed protocol.
How police deal with things needs some reform but it's a circus atm.
I'm cool with killing the blacks who deserve it, slot run their mouth, but innocents should not be killed.
 

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We each have our own thoughts on different situations. I think to date I've been very open minded and been willing to make a number of concessions, which generally aren't free flowing in the opposite direction.
I disagree. I think many have pointed out your tactic of ignoring evidence that doesn't match your world view all while claiming to be open minded.
 

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Apparently all lives matter is racist somehow.

To me only innocent lives matter, but that's rayciss somehow too...
The term itself obviously isn't racist but it was picked up by racists which is why people hate it. It generally goes like this:

Black person - "my unarmed wife was shot and killed by police and the officers were never charged. Black Lives Matter"

White supremacist - "screw you. All Lives Matter"

It's basically akin to walking up to a widow at a funeral and saying, "stop crying. Everyone dies"
 

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I disagree. I think many have pointed out your tactic of ignoring evidence that doesn't match your world view all while claiming to be open minded.
I’m one of the few ppl on here more than willing to point out the flaws of my side of politics whenever they need to be pointed out. That’s more than can be said for some on here who just blindly repeat narratives and can’t think for themselves.

Which evidence are you referring to?
 

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All lives matter is a retort by racists who dont like black people and/or making this situation about black people

most of the people who use it are people who are still pissed off that they lost the civil war and the right to own black people, all those confederate monuments that they put up are done recently well after the fact so you know they still are representing

thats what i think the make america great again thing is subtly referring to, saying that america was great when there was slavery and giving people hope that it can once again happen
 

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I’m one of the few ppl on here more than willing to point out the flaws of my side of politics whenever they need to be pointed out. That’s more than can be said for some on here who just blindly repeat narratives and can’t think for themselves.

Which evidence are you referring to?
That is several threads of conversation that I'm not going to go back through. Feel free to look up the earlier responses I and others have made. It's usually around the part where you go quiet for a while, then change the subject, then raise the question again that we already provided evidence for.
 

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That is several threads of conversation that I'm not going to go back through. Feel free to look up the earlier responses I and others have made. It's usually around the part where you go quiet for a while, then change the subject, then raise the question again that we already provided evidence for.
I’m always happy to have an open conversation about any topic without insulting and attacking people for sharing their views.

I’m not here to validate myself so if you have specific examples I’m open to talking through them.
 

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All lives matter is a retort by racists who dont like black people and/or making this situation about black people

most of the people who use it are people who are still pissed off that they lost the civil war and the right to own black people, all those confederate monuments that they put up are done recently well after the fact so you know they still are representing

thats what i think the make america great again thing is subtly referring to, saying that america was great when there was slavery and giving people hope that it can once again happen
What about innocent lives matter, you have a problem with that? Lol

If you do...tough titties lol
 

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Doesn’t Christianity say no mortal is innocent? So no lives matter? Body count were right all along.
What you just said is actually (sincerely) quite profound.

The western concept of sovereignty of the individual is a christian judeo value and one of the founding blocks of society as we now know it.
 

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Part of the BLM movement beef is the policing.

Apparently some US Police depts only require a 12-14 week training program and you get the situation where a bad cop gets ousted and goes to the next door county police dept plus they have layers and layers of policing structure. Nothing like here for example and they are also increasingly becoming para military type forces.

This clip is very interesting on altering policing methods in Camden, NJ.

 
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