The Formula One Thread

[dogwhisperer]

schumacher 1992 belgian gp out lap from the pits to surprise williams sitting in the lead, went 5 seconds quicker than anybody including senna who also pitted that lap, williams had to pit at the end of the next lap, schumacher again took a major chunk to take lead

schumacher belgian gp 1997, schumacher in 3rd place to start lap, passes alesi passes villeneuve then ends that lap 5.8 seconds ahead, 16.9 seconds ahead on the next lap

schumacher has senna covered in every way, more wins, less whines, more great drives, 7 championships, better in the wet

You’re not that good with maths are you? Of course he’s going to have more wins and championships. He was in the sport for 19 years(nearly two decades), senna was in the sport for 10 years. Schumacher had 306 race starts compared to Sennas 161 race starts. Sennas career was cut short.

So by your logic that means Hamilton is better than Schumacher because Hamilton has more race wins? LOL

The Steven Bradbury of F1 for the 94 & 95 seasons still stands.

As I said before, your obsession and love affair with Schumacher has blurred your vision.

 

[foREVerA7X]

Ricky Bobby has Returned to Redbull as a reserve driver for next year.

 

[Bazildog]

Ricky Bobby has Returned to Redbull as a reserve driver for next year.

Will probably replace Perez for 24.

 

[foREVerA7X]

Will probably replace Perez for 24.

I could see that happen but Liam Lawson was impressive in FP1 yesterday at Abu Dhabi so he could also be a smokey.

 

[Bazildog]

I could see that happen but Liam Lawson was impressive in FP1 yesterday at Abu Dhabi so he could also be a smokey.

True, but Helmut likes to blood them in F1 via the sister team or as a loan driver like he did Riccardo unless he is another Verstappen.

 

[cntrbry bnkstwn]

OMG... you are still rolling out this Schuey dribble like a fan boy.. Schumacher is in the top 5 drivers of all time purely on the fact he has 7 world titles. But, if we put him, Senna, Fangio, Hamilton, Prost, Brabham, Lauda, Vettel, Verstappen, Stewart, Piquet, Hakkinen and Jim Clark all at thier peaks and in matching and identical 1984 Tolman's and have them race 5 Grandprix with at least 2 in the rain...

My trifecta would be Fangio and Senna either 1 or 2, and Schumacher third, with a potential smokey of either Jim Clark, Hamilton, Hakkinen or Verstappen..

Easily the most versatile driver of all was Fangio winning 5 championships in 4 different brands of car. He is the Goat of Grand Prix racing so in the fantasy race above, he and Senna would be a fantastic battle. Shumacher would be threat in the rain and he and Senna toe to toe would be facinating.

nice post, some legendary drivers there. Not in the goat category, but damon hill's title in 96 was pretty satisfying after losing Senna, and of course his father graham hill the only driver to complete the triple crown, a feat still yet to be achieved by anyone else

 

[Philistine]

The human race is still evolving. In sports where performance can be measured directly against a fixed yardstick, rather than against other people, the standard rises every year. Sports like athletics, cycling, swimming and weightlifting see new records posted on a regular basis. Why should this be any different for other sports?

To have a (partial) stab at answering my own question, the sports I just named require a high level of athletic ability and not much in the way of skill or experience. The owner of the best body gets the best result. There is plenty of evidence that people are becoming fitter and stronger, but little if any evidence they are becoming more skillful. The skill factor is paramount in motor racing, and could explain why drivers can remain competitive for longer, as evidenced by men like Fangio, who won his first World championship at age 39 and his last at age 46.

Any thoughts?

 

[Rodzilla]

You’re not that good with maths are you? Of course he’s going to have more wins and championships. He was in the sport for 19 years(nearly two decades), senna was in the sport for 10 years. Schumacher had 306 race starts compared to Sennas 161 race starts. Sennas career was cut short.

So by your logic that means Hamilton is better than Schumacher because Hamilton has more race wins? LOL

The Steven Bradbury of F1 for the 94 & 95 seasons still stands.

As I said before, your obsession and love affair with Schumacher has blurred your vision.

if you cut schumachers career short at 161 starts he defeats senna on all statistics except pole positions because again he raced against mclaren and williams instead of whining and joining them

11 more wins, 16 more podiums, 1 more championship, so again any way you want to cut it schumacher beats senna

 

[Rodzilla]

prost tried the schumacher route and join ferrari, was sacked before 2 years and crawled back to williams to win a 4th title

another one who could only win a title with the best car

 

[dogwhisperer]

if you cut schumachers career short at 161 starts he defeats senna on all statistics except pole positions because again he raced against mclaren and williams instead of whining and joining them

11 more wins, 16 more podiums, 1 more championship, so again any way you want to cut it schumacher beats senna

Yeh because he was Steven Bradbury in 94-95. It was gifted.

Hill was no where near Senna in driving talent and yet only lost the championship by 1 point. If Senna didn’t die he would of blown away Schumacher and would of smashed Schumacher in 95.

Bradbury of F1…..LMAO

 

[dogwhisperer]

prost tried the schumacher route and join ferrari, was sacked before 2 years and crawled back to williams to win a 4th title

another one who could only win a title with the best car

Schumacher the Steven Bradbury of F1 in 94,95

He needed 3 better drivers than him to not race anymore to win. Simple

 

[dogwhisperer]

if you cut schumachers career short at 161 starts he defeats senna on all statistics except pole positions because again he raced against mclaren and williams instead of whining and joining them

11 more wins, 16 more podiums, 1 more championship, so again any way you want to cut it schumacher beats senna

So by your logic that means Hamilton is greater than Schumacher because Hamilton has won more races from less race starts.

See how your posts are dumb?

 

[Rodzilla]

Yeh because he was Steven Bradbury in 94-95. It was gifted.

Hill was no where near Senna in driving talent and yet only lost the championship by 1 point. If Senna didn’t die he would of blown away Schumacher and would of smashed Schumacher in 95.

Bradbury of F1…..LMAO

thats because the nazi sex fetishist boss of the FIA had banned schumacher from 2 races and he had another 2 wins taken away, schumacher was walking away with the title and that including a 30pts maximum lead over senna after 3 races, he would have won the title by 50pts if there was no interference, 30pts against senna, then he would have received the renault engine for 1995 and won again

hakkinen was on the senna level and had a better car for 1998 and 1999, schumacher unlucky not to win those titles and if not for coulthard incident getting lapped at belgium he would win

 

[Rodzilla]

So by your logic that means Hamilton is greater than Schumacher because Hamilton has won more races from less race starts.

See how your posts are dumb?

hamilton has more race starts and crucially many more race starts in the dominant car, if schumacher started his career in a williams then switched to mclaren then he would have 150 wins and 13 championships

if hamilton on lap 1 would have retired his car for his entire career then his teammates would have won those 100 races anyway, nobody else is winning 100 races with the cars schumacher drove

 

[dogwhisperer]

thats because the nazi sex fetishist boss of the FIA had banned schumacher from 2 races and he had another 2 wins taken away, schumacher was walking away with the title and that including a 30pts maximum lead over senna after 3 races, he would have won the title by 50pts if there was no interference, 30pts against senna, then he would have received the renault engine for 1995 and won again

hakkinen was on the senna level and had a better car for 1998 and 1999, schumacher unlucky not to win those titles and if not for coulthard incident getting lapped at belgium he would win

Nah, too much speculation in your post. “Would of, could of, should of”
Rules are Rules, whether you agree with them or not. I could say Senna was ripped off in 89 when Prost clearly caused the accident that cost Senna the championship but I don’t. Rules are Rules.

FACT - Senna was ten times better than Hill and Hill only lost the championship by a single point. Senna would of wiped his arse with Schumacher in 1994. In 95 the Williams had iron out its faults, Senna would of had a field day. Schumacher is the Steven Bradbury of 94 & 95. His Ferrari wins from 2000-2004 were well deserved. I call it how it is and I will remain impartial unlike yourself.

The Benetton team cheated in 1994. They still had Traction Control on their cars computer system and could switch it on or off anytime. When you say you saw Schumacher spinning his tyres at the start of one race that’s because they didn’t have Launch Control. Traction control is different and the Sports governing body found that Benetton still had this option in their cars. Benetton said it was in their cars but they disabled it. What a load of crock shit! They were also found guilty of removing the valve filter from the refueling hose which reduced pit stop times and gave them an advantage to get ahead of other drivers when pit stopping. How do you think the fire started when Jos Verstappen who drove the other Benetton when he did his pit stop at Hockenheim.

 

[Rodzilla]

Nah, too much speculation in your post. “Would of, could of, should of”
Rules are Rules, whether you agree with them or not. I could say Senna was ripped off in 89 when Prost clearly caused the accident that cost Senna the championship but I don’t. Rules are Rules.

FACT - Senna was ten times better than Hill and Hill only lost the championship by a single point. Senna would of wiped his arse with Schumacher in 1994. In 95 the Williams had iron out its faults, Senna would of had a field day. Schumacher is the Steven Bradbury of 94 & 95. His Ferrari wins from 2000-2004 were well deserved. I call it how it is and I will remain impartial unlike yourself.

The Benetton team cheated in 1994. They still had Traction Control on their cars computer system and could switch it on or off anytime. When you say you saw Schumacher spinning his tyres at the start of one race that’s because they didn’t have Launch Control. Traction control is different and the Sports governing body found that Benetton still had this option in their cars. Benetton said it was in their cars but they disabled it. What a load of crock shit! They were also found guilty of removing the valve filter from the refueling hose which reduced pit stop times and gave them an advantage to get ahead of other drivers when pit stopping. How do you think the fire started when Jos Verstappen who drove the other Benetton when he did his pit stop at Hockenheim.

thats 2 races he was spinning his tyres and lost positions, it was legal in formula 1 in 1993 and the only software tests they asked to see were the podium of the san marino gp, all 3 cars had the system leftover in the car,, its a normal situation to just deactivate it especially when you are carrying over engines and parts into the next season

at best you have schumacher making a few seconds faster pitstops and thats speculation also based on 1 fast pitstop, i guarantee if you offered senna the opportunity to have a couple of seconds faster pitstop but give up his 120 horsepower renault engine advantage, he would decide to keep his engine, senna had the advantage and thats the exact situation he described when prost joined williams and vetoed him, he said prost wanted everybody else to have heavy metal boots in a sprint race while prost got running shoes, senna now had the equipment and schumacher had the heavy boots

senna is the most overrated driver of all time, his mclaren was the most overpowered car compared to its rival, this is senna starting from the pitlane passing 2 cars down the straight to claim 5th place, this is a joke and thats why he was whining when williams became the best car, he needed the best car again

 

[Rodzilla]

its no speculation to say that schumacher would have easily won the 1994 championship had he not been banned or disqualified from 4 races, damon won all those races and gained 40pts on schumacher

would of should of could of?, you are the one saying what would happen if senna didn't die or if mansell could still fit inside the car and still race lolol, im very comfortable with what happened and you are the one with the problem

 

[Rodzilla]

ffs 1998 argentine gp, schumacher was unbelievable, watch it if you want to see someone driving 70 qualifying laps to overcome a dominant car, anytime the camera is on him then watch how hard he had to push

Formula 1 Season 1998x03 - Argentine Grand Prix Full Race : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

if this doesn't make your penis excited then see a doctor

 

[dogwhisperer]

its no speculation to say that schumacher would have easily won the 1994 championship had he not been banned or disqualified from 4 races, damon won all those races and gained 40pts on schumacher

would of should of could of?, you are the one saying what would happen if senna didn't die or if mansell could still fit inside the car and still race lolol, im very comfortable with what happened and you are the one with the problem

Only using “would of, should of, could of” in reply to your “would of, should of, could of”

Go back and read my first reply to your ridiculous post.

Schumacher = Steven Bradbury of F1 in 94,95

 

[dogwhisperer]

thats 2 races he was spinning his tyres and lost positions, it was legal in formula 1 in 1993 and the only software tests they asked to see were the podium of the san marino gp, all 3 cars had the system leftover in the car,, its a normal situation to just deactivate it especially when you are carrying over engines and parts into the next season

at best you have schumacher making a few seconds faster pitstops and thats speculation also based on 1 fast pitstop, i guarantee if you offered senna the opportunity to have a couple of seconds faster pitstop but give up his 120 horsepower renault engine advantage, he would decide to keep his engine, senna had the advantage and thats the exact situation he described when prost joined williams and vetoed him, he said prost wanted everybody else to have heavy metal boots in a sprint race while prost got running shoes, senna now had the equipment and schumacher had the heavy boots

senna is the most overrated driver of all time, his mclaren was the most overpowered car compared to its rival, this is senna starting from the pitlane passing 2 cars down the straight to claim 5th place, this is a joke and thats why he was whining when williams became the best car, he needed the best car again

Are you trying to cover up the cheating Benetton team? You just wrote a load of dribble there, honestly.

Schumacher = the Bradbury of F1 in 94,95