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I have to be honest here. I'd need a flow chart to know who is against who in all this. I've pointedly tried not to know. It disappoints me that the world's leaders treat their citizens as pawns on a chess board.

What I do know is that if I was an alien watching our planet from above, I'd be really fucking wary of trying to land here and try to begin peaceful relations with this planet. If I had spies on the planet I'd be working really fucking hard to ensure we kept our ability to travel out of sight of our plant to a minimum.

Humans are the worst thing to have happened to this planet
Use a penis chart if you really want to ram home the point
 

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I have to be honest here. I'd need a flow chart to know who is against who in all this. I've pointedly tried not to know. It disappoints me that the world's leaders treat their citizens as pawns on a chess board.

What I do know is that if I was an alien watching our planet from above, I'd be really fucking wary of trying to land here and try to begin peaceful relations with this planet. If I had spies on the planet I'd be working really fucking hard to ensure we kept our ability to travel out of sight of our plant to a minimum.

Humans are the worst thing to have happened to this planet
Here is a simple flow chart...

Lucifer > Elites > useless eaters (us)

Take out the religious part if you want (doesn't matter as it's what the elites believe) and it is still accurate.
 

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Your argument is the Balfour Declaration was just a piece of paper, my argument is that it was the catalyst for what happens in 1948 till the present day, well agree to disagree
That's the big difference. If we're talking about the British supporting a state, I don't think the Balfour declaration is evidence of this. Everyone knows that the British just pushed whatever lies they could to win the war. And Balfour was pro-Zionist, hence why he pushed it. But even then, the wording was cautious to avoid a state.

That said, it definitely was the catalyst. When writing the Declaration, the Zionist authors basically said, "we can't use the word state or the British/Ottoman won't support it. So we'll use homeland instead. But our people will know what it actually means"

The British never intended to give the Jewish a state, but the declaration was enough to convince both the Zionists and the Arabs that this was what the British actually wanted.
 

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All I say to finish this my man is you get better value long term trying to understand why things happen rather than finding something to blame.

All good - enjoy your weekend.
I think acknowledging something that set the precedent and let 100,000 foreigners in to a land that they had no right to be let into is not finding something to blame but understanding how it started, their is always a cause than an effect, and the effect happens overtime, only God is the absolute eternal that doesn't need a cause and was always and will always be you too champ
 

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That's the big difference. If we're talking about the British supporting a state, I don't think the Balfour declaration is evidence of this. Everyone knows that the British just pushed whatever lies they could to win the war. And Balfour was pro-Zionist, hence why he pushed it. But even then, the wording was cautious to avoid a state.

That said, it definitely was the catalyst. When writing the Declaration, the Zionist authors basically said, "we can't use the word state or the British/Ottoman won't support it. So we'll use homeland instead. But our people will know what it actually means"

The British never intended to give the Jewish a state, but the declaration was enough to convince both the Zionists and the Arabs that this was what the British actually wanted.
Balfour was a Zionist? Thought he was Scottish. Go figure....
 

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I think acknowledging something that set the precedent and let 100,000 foreigners in to a land that they had no right to be let into is not finding something to blame but understanding how it started, their is always a cause than an effect, and the effect happens overtime, only God is the absolute eternal that doesn't need a cause and was always and will always be you too champ
Don't agree but all good.
 

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Balfour was a Zionist? Thought he was Scottish. Go figure....
I said "Pro-Zionist"

If you mean the "authors" comment, Balfour didn't write it. He basically agreed to it and signed it off under his name. It was written by Weizmann and co.
 

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After October 7, Netanyahu said the geopolitical landscape will change. Netanyahu has kept his word and he cannot stop winning at this point.

Hamas destroyed, Israel has control of Gaza. Check.

Hezbollah beat back in Lebanon. Hezbollah leadership in shambles. Check

Syria's military completely destroyed. Check.

Israel keeps on winning!
 

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I said "Pro-Zionist"

If you mean the "authors" comment, Balfour didn't write it. He basically agreed to it and signed it off under his name. It was written by Weizmann and co.
Nope. It was two paragraphs - reckon he could have pushed himself for it.
 

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Nope. It was two paragraphs - reckon he could have pushed himself for it.
Apparently Weizmann was originally pushing it and Balfour told Weizmann and others to write it up so he could sign it off. But it took them a fair while to get the wording exactly right.
 

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Apparently Weizmann was originally pushing it and Balfour told Weizmann and others to write it up so he could sign it off. But it took them a fair while to get the wording exactly right.
Bit more than that.
 

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The fall of Assad is another massive win for Israel
Sadly it is but on the other hand I don't know if you've seen what the Assad regime was doing to Syrians and lebanese in their jails who have not even been convicted of anything, makes Israel look like amateurs. So it's a conflicting situation man, I'd still want the rebels to take over if time was turned back just cause of all the disturbing shit if seen on X from the Assad regime, hopefully their not just puppets of Israel
 

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After October 7, Netanyahu said the geopolitical landscape will change. Netanyahu has kept his word and he cannot stop winning at this point.

Hamas destroyed, Israel has control of Gaza. Check.

Hezbollah beat back in Lebanon. Hezbollah leadership in shambles. Check

Syria's military completely destroyed. Check.

Israel keeps on winning!
You have no clue bro, hezbollah was pumping them, they couldn't even enter and take control of anything, they haven't finished hamas, in fact far from it, they destroyed gaza and that's the only thing they achieved along with the assassinations but their military objectives were not reached, hamas is still kicking and if you actually research apart from main steam media which is controlled by Zionists you'd see that aswell, when Iran attacked the second time without actually telling Israel or America that their going to attack, Israel couldn't do shit, their air defence was N/A when it came to actually missles and not rocket launchers
 

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You have no clue bro, hezbollah was pumping them, they couldn't even enter and take control of anything, they haven't finished hamas, in fact far from it, they destroyed gaza and that's the only thing they achieved along with the assassinations but their military objectives were not reached, hamas is still kicking and if you actually research apart from main steam media which is controlled by Zionists you'd see that aswell, when Iran attacked the second time without actually telling Israel or America that their going to attack, Israel couldn't do shit, their air defence was N/A when it came to actually missles and not rocket launchers
Sort of agree on Hezbollah. But think thats more to the level of commitment Israel had to this and the advantages Hezbollah have. Easier to guard something than attack it. As for Hamas, you destroy their leadership and wipe their 'capital', Hamas might be kicking but are going to need a long time to recover from this. The Iranian missile attacks. For starters, Iran notified other arab states a day or so before them and no one else. And the US knew shortly after. So what does that tell you? Well known you potentially can overwhelm the iron dome(s) with volume. By all accounts (incl the Washington Post who are as critical of the IDF as anyone), satellite imagery shows maybe they got a F35 or 2 but thats it. It hurt Israel financially but apart from that, not too much to talk about.

Sort of agree with @GoTheDoggies on this one to a degree. The timing of the insurgency in Syria is so suss its ridiculous. No doubt someone had their finger in the pie. Who? Doubt its Israel as they are bleeding financially. US is the obvious answer but also would not surprise me if the Saudis had some skin in the game. Would not be the first time.

As I said before, nothing is linear in this world. Everyone is sketching to find an advantage or push and agenda.
 

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Sort of agree on Hezbollah. But think thats more to the level of commitment Israel had to this and the advantages Hezbollah have. Easier to guard something than attack it. As for Hamas, you destroy their leadership and wipe their 'capital', Hamas might be kicking but are going to need a long time to recover from this. The Iranian missile attacks. For starters, Iran notified other arab states a day or so before them and no one else. And the US knew shortly after. So what does that tell you? Well known you potentially can overwhelm the iron dome(s) with volume. By all accounts (incl the Washington Post who are as critical of the IDF as anyone), satellite imagery shows maybe they got a F35 or 2 but thats it. It hurt Israel financially but apart from that, not too much to talk about.

Sort of agree with @GoTheDoggies on this one to a degree. The timing of the insurgency in Syria is so suss its ridiculous. No doubt someone had their finger in the pie. Who? Doubt its Israel as they are bleeding financially. US is the obvious answer but also would not surprise me if the Saudis had some skin in the game. Would not be the first time.

As I said before, nothing is linear in this world. Everyone is sketching to find an advantage or push and agenda.
When you're fighting a group with no air support and on the other hand you're a country with nukes and every western superpower sending you bucket loads every week, I think not being able to enter is a little embarrassing, their not fighting a country but a movement and yes Iran and other countries were funding them but they had no air support what so ever, i don't know if you've seen the videos of all the hyper sonic missiles smashing into Israel but the truth is if Iran wanted to target eveey military target in Israel it could do it and because of the land mass of Israel, it wouldn't be able to do anything, like the iron dome is a defence for small missles and rocket launchers, when the big toys come out Israel is a deer in headlights even with the US, UK trying to shoot them down they were unable to neutralise the threat and the biggest lie was that 99% of the missles sent my Iran were intercepted when videos like these were everywhere on X right after it!
 

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Isn’t it odd how when Russia invaded Ukraine it was instant sanctions here.

Then when Israel invaded 3 countries: Palestine, Lebanon and Syria = no sanctions here.

Soon in Australia you will get more sanctions for simply criticising the Jews than they get for bombing and invading multiple countries.
 
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