Such a disgrace!!

[flamebouyant]

Forst of all let me say that i dont have a problem with people having a bet, thats entirely up to you. But i think its an absolute disgrace that the NRL is being/allowed to be propped up by sponsorship money from betting agencies. Im sick to death of that fucktard joel caine at half time flapping on about best odds and gambling options and then acting as though he has made everything all ok by saying, "and remember guys, gamble responsibly". As if this does any good.over the years the game has been rocked by betting scandals among players, yet the NRL thinks its acceptable to be sponsored by betting agencies, and have every add break jam packed with adds for betting agencies.
Sure enough some people can gamble responsibly, but obsessive gambling and poky machine addictions are ruining families accross australia, so how is it acceptable for on of the most popular games in australia to be sponsored by so many betting agencies? Its such a bad look.
Many years ago the winfield cup was sponsored by winfield and people realised it was not acceptable. The same thing needs to happen with the NRL and betting agencies. Its a terrible look for the game.

 

[The DoggFather]

The nrl, just like horse racing, is nothing but a betting product for the betting agencies.

It's a money maker because it's easier to rort than horse racing.

 

[flamebouyant]

The nrl, just like horse racing, is nothing but a betting product for the betting agencies.

It's a money maker because it's easier to rort than horse racing.

But surely there is some sort of governance for things like this. Regardless of the social effects of gambling, its a really shady look for a major sport to be sponsored by a betting agency. Surely it implies things are not exactly fair and equal.

 

[The DoggFather]

But surely there is some sort of governance for things like this. Regardless of the social effects of gambling, its a really shady look for a major sport to be sponsored by a betting agency. Surely it implies things are not exactly fair and equal.

Governance? The government makes money from the rort through taxes.

But you're right, 100% shady and not shy about it because it is so easy to rig a game. We see examples nearly in every game.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

The NRL has access to the agencies records tbh.

 

[dogluva]

We have clubs giving naming rights of their grounds to betting agencies; we have clubs being sponsored by betting companies and we have the NRL all pally pally with betting companies, wanna have a bet that there is corruption in the game..........

 

[flamebouyant]

We have clubs giving naming rights of their grounds to betting agencies; we have clubs being sponsored by betting companies and we have the NRL all pally pally with betting companies, wanna have a bet that there is corruption in the game..........

Exactly. Many is called lottoland, and isnt 1300smiles stadium one also? Its a fucking disgrace in my opinion. The NRL as an organisation is so hypocritical. They throw the book at anyone match fixing or betting on a game, yet their referees manipulate games through their bad calls, and they take money from betting agencies. How does this make you look NRL? Like your in on the sting!!

 

[Sandra's Bollocks]

Yeah it seems every major sponsor they've had has been sinister and no good for us i.e ciggies, alcohol, betting, fast food etc.

So we're all gonna die on the couch with a winnie blue in our mouths, a longneck in one hand, our last TAB ticket in the other and a bucket of kfc by our side.

 

[Oatley Dog]

Exactly. Many is called lottoland, and isnt 1300smiles stadium one also? Its a fucking disgrace in my opinion. The NRL as an organisation is so hypocritical. They throw the book at anyone match fixing or betting on a game, yet their referees manipulate games through their bad calls, and they take money from betting agencies. How does this make you look NRL? Like your in on the sting!!

You seem to be confusing sponsorship with salary. The sponsors don't pay the weekly paypackets of the refs or other officials. the money they pay comes in a lump sum and goes into consolidated revenue along with all the other income. Who cares who the sponsors are as long as its legal and above board. What happens if Viagra becomes a sponsor? Are we going to suggest that the refs are under the spell of raging hormones? It's just childish to suggest that players and on field officials are influenced by the companies that are on their shirts. I bought a new dogs polo shirt the other day and I can tell you I'm not trading in my Porsche for Kia no matter how big the bloody logo is.

 

[maroondog72]

Forst of all let me say that i dont have a problem with people having a bet, thats entirely up to you. But i think its an absolute disgrace that the NRL is being/allowed to be propped up by sponsorship money from betting agencies. Im sick to death of that fucktard joel caine at half time flapping on about best odds and gambling options and then acting as though he has made everything all ok by saying, "and remember guys, gamble responsibly". As if this does any good.over the years the game has been rocked by betting scandals among players, yet the NRL thinks its acceptable to be sponsored by betting agencies, and have every add break jam packed with adds for betting agencies.
Sure enough some people can gamble responsibly, but obsessive gambling and poky machine addictions are ruining families accross australia, so how is it acceptable for on of the most popular games in australia to be sponsored by so many betting agencies? Its such a bad look.
Many years ago the winfield cup was sponsored by winfield and people realised it was not acceptable. The same thing needs to happen with the NRL and betting agencies. Its a terrible look for the game.

I agree totally but the nrl has also
Had big tobacco and alcohol company's as major sponsors also so the will just point at that and say gambling is no worse but I agree it's a fucking shady business

 

[Mr Invisible]

Preaching to the converted mate... even on radio.

The game has become overwhlemed with it's reliance on betting partners to pump money into the game and keep it alive.

 

[flamebouyant]

I agree totally but the nrl has also
Had big tobacco and alcohol company's as major sponsors also so the will just point at that and say gambling is no worse but I agree it's a fucking shady business

Yeah true, but the winfield cup was a long time ago. I also disagree with the VB Blues and XXXX QLD sides. Also not a good look. Especially when you illegalise a punch in oreder to make the game more appealing to parents of young kids.

 

[NickT]

I make my kids turn the Tele off until kickoff and during halftime so they are not bombarded with betting jargon

 

[maroondog72]

Yeah true, but the winfield cup was a long time ago. I also disagree with the VB Blues and XXXX QLD sides. Also not a good look. Especially when you illegalise a punch in oreder to make the game more appealing to parents of young kids.

Yep hypocrisy at it's finest

 

[flamebouyant]

You seem to be confusing sponsorship with salary. The sponsors don't pay the weekly paypackets of the refs or other officials. the money they pay comes in a lump sum and goes into consolidated revenue along with all the other income. Who cares who the sponsors are as long as its legal and above board. What happens if Viagra becomes a sponsor? Are we going to suggest that the refs are under the spell of raging hormones? It's just childish to suggest that players and on field officials are influenced by the companies that are on their shirts. I bought a new dogs polo shirt the other day and I can tell you I'm not trading in my Porsche for Kia no matter how big the bloody logo is.

Lol you got me all wrong there mate. Im not suggesting the betting agencies pay the refs. Of course sponsorship money is all put in one pot and then allocated as necessary. But thats not the point. Its how it looks. A lot of refereeing decisions leave most of us dumbfounded, and then theres an add break littered with betting agency adds, surely some peoples minds ander.......
IIn any case thats not the major point im trying to make here. It was a side note. Gambling is a problem in society, and its a bad look for the game as a major sponsor. I dont have a problem with people having a bet, thats entirely their decision. But a major sport should not be affilliated with an organisation that profits from it. It just doesnt look right.

 

[Oatley Dog]

Lol you got me all wrong there mate. Im not suggesting the betting agencies pay the refs. Of course sponsorship money is all put in one pot and then allocated as necessary. But thats not the point. Its how it looks. A lot of refereeing decisions leave most of us dumbfounded, and then theres an add break littered with betting agency adds, surely some peoples minds ander.......
IIn any case thats not the major point im trying to make here. It was a side note. Gambling is a problem in society, and its a bad look for the game as a major sponsor. I dont have a problem with people having a bet, thats entirely their decision. But a major sport should not be affilliated with an organisation that profits from it. It just doesnt look right.

Again, you seem to misunderstand the purpose of sponsorship. it's not to throw money away it's to make a profit from the investment. Every sponsor expects a return on their investment. That's why they do it. Now we are saying we need to put all these limits on it because we think that somehow all these bad influences are going to come up. On a personal level I couldn't give a rats. Over the course of a year if I bet $100 its a big year. Just doesn't interest me but to think that removing betting companies from the list of suitable sponsors for sport is going to somehow improve perceptions is akin to saying oil companies can't sponsor car races because of the Exxon Valdez. It makes as much sense as banning sugar from school canteens - as if that will change what a kid eats every day. It's just tokenism and agenda pushing. League referees have been making mistakes since 1908 and they will keep making them until robots take over. We keep looking for reasons other than competence to explain decisions when Occam's razor is the answer.

 

[Dirty*Deeds]

Reckon in part It's why you get all the refs giving suss as feck calls "controlling " the game.. Wonder if there is less draws this year after 80mins compared to draws last year ?? You can't bet on a draw after 80mins anymore with "sports rort", only a halftime draw.. So, Be interesting to see the stats on draws after 80min since bet the option was removed this yr.

 

[flamebouyant]

Again, you seem to misunderstand the purpose of sponsorship. it's not to throw money away it's to make a profit from the investment. Every sponsor expects a return on their investment. That's why they do it. Now we are saying we need to put all these limits on it because we think that somehow all these bad influences are going to come up. On a personal level I couldn't give a rats. Over the course of a year if I bet $100 its a big year. Just doesn't interest me but to think that removing betting companies from the list of suitable sponsors for sport is going to somehow improve perceptions is akin to saying oil companies can't sponsor car races because of the Exxon Valdez. It makes as much sense as banning sugar from school canteens - as if that will change what a kid eats every day. It's just tokenism and agenda pushing. League referees have been making mistakes since 1908 and they will keep making them until robots take over. We keep looking for reasons other than competence to explain decisions when Occam's razor is the answer.

Again i think you misunderstand my point, or your taking it out of context. I fully understand that a sponsor needs a return for their investment, and no matter the sponsor, people will gamble if they want to anyway.
But thats not the point of my post. I know you cant pick and choose who sponsors the game, but surely there are better options?!! Harvey norman used to sponsor state of origin, and now its VB and XXXX, and every advert is a betting agency. Surely there is a bigger company that is a better fit for the game that would be happy to get on board. Or do they just not care? Probably not. But given the heirarchy are so hellbent on improving the image of the game and ridding it of things such as players behaving badly on the piss, or players betting on games etc then surely having betting agencies and alcohol producers as major backers of the game is counterproductive!!!
I Love to have a drink, dont really care about people having a bet, and im pretty laid back in regards to most things, but i juat think this situation is very hypocritical of the NRL and proves how out of touch they are with most things in the game.

 

[Dogzof95]

I make my kids turn the Tele off until kickoff and during halftime so they are not bombarded with betting jargon

I noticed Joel cane received a fair bit of air time last night! It was just ridiculous!

 

[KiwiDog7]

At least they don't show the betting segments in NZ