Opinion State of the roster for 2023

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Bumping this one back on the agenda given the huge week it has been. Done some further analysis and signings required.

Assuming Flanno will be the coach, I think there is an in to get some of the lads from Cronulla over. Pele, Hiroti but that is just a random thought. We need a FB either Hamiso or Drinkwater. I think we are more of a chance of Hamiso given the relationship with BBO. Matto has his brother Dean playing for Mounties. Flegler appears to be behind Haas, Palesia, Jensen and a couple others. Letting go of Thompson and replacing him like for like but a lot cheaper and more upside in my opinion. Taylan May would be a huge get. Let go of Averillo, Waddell, JMK, Allan and Thompson. After watching today's press conference, I wouldn't be able to bear seeing Jacko leave the club.

I'd like to think I haven't just plucked random signings out of my ass. I've also took into account freight we will be paying for the players we'd be wanting to piss off. My analysis means we are at 9.5ish for 2023.

Name20222023StatusPosition
RFM5000Don't resignEdge
Stimson3000Don't resignEdge
Hetherington4000Don't resignEdge
Dufty4500Don't resignFull Back
Wakeham2000Don't resignHalf
Vaughan4500Don't resignMiddle
Katoa1100Don't resignOutside Back
Naden4000ReleasedOutside Back
Averillo3000To Be Let GoUtility
Waddell300100To Be Let GoEdge
JMK400100To Be Let GoHooker
Allan500200To Be Let GoOutside Back
Thompson800300To Be Let GoMiddle
Bailey HaywardFlegg80Top 30Half
Khaled RajabFlegg80Top 30Half
Alamoti15080Top 30Outside Back
Jacob KirazTrain & Trial80Top 30Outside Back
Hoffman110110Top 30Edge
ToiaTrain & Trial110Top 30Full Back
Patolo150110Top 30Middle
Topine140110Top 30Edge
BBO150150Top 30Utility
Doorey200150Top 30Edge
Cook150150Top 30Hooker
Burns150150Top 30Outside Back
Okunbor200170Top 30Outside Back
King150200Top 30Middle
Seumanufagai200200Top 30Middle
Schoupp250200Top 30Outside Back
Ryan Sutton300Top 30Middle
Flanagan450450Top 30Half
Matterson500Top 30Middle
JAC550550Top 30Outside Back
Mahoney600Top 30Hooker
Jackson600600Top 30Middle
Burton500750Top 30Half
TPJ750750Top 30Middle
Kikau800Top 30Edge
Mawene Hiroti110Top 30 - to be signedOutside Back
Franklin Pele150Top 30 - to be signedMiddle
Taylan May250Top 30 - to be signedOutside Back
Flegler300Top 30 - to be signedMiddle
Hamiso Tabuai600Top 30 - to be signedFull Back

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FullbackHamisoFullbackToia
WingJACWingHiroti
CentreSchouppCentreAlamoti
CentreKirazCentreBurns
WingTaylan MayWingOkunbor
Five EighthBurtonFive EighthRajab
HalfbackFlanaganHalfbackHayward
PropTPJPropSeumanufagai
HookerMahoneyHookerCook
PropFleglerPropPatolo
Second RowKikauSecond RowHoffman
Second RowMattersonSecond RowDoorey
LockJacksonLockTopine
Reserve #1BBOReserve #1CUP PLAYER (Docker-Clay)
Reserve #2SuttonReserve #2CUP PLAYER (Tsikrikas)
Reserve #3KingReserve #3CUP PLAYER (Makatoa)
Reserve #4PeleReserve #4CUP PLAYER (Morrin)
 

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Pele might develop into fg - bit slow n lumbering even in nsw cup - hiroti has been around nsw cup level for awhile - would hope there is better available in flegg comp
 

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Bumping this one back on the agenda given the huge week it has been. Done some further analysis and signings required.

Assuming Flanno will be the coach, I think there is an in to get some of the lads from Cronulla over. Pele, Hiroti but that is just a random thought. We need a FB either Hamiso or Drinkwater. I think we are more of a chance of Hamiso given the relationship with BBO. Matto has his brother Dean playing for Mounties. Flegler appears to be behind Haas, Palesia, Jensen and a couple others. Letting go of Thompson and replacing him like for like but a lot cheaper and more upside in my opinion. Taylan May would be a huge get. Let go of Averillo, Waddell, JMK, Allan and Thompson. After watching today's press conference, I wouldn't be able to bear seeing Jacko leave the club.

I'd like to think I haven't just plucked random signings out of my ass. I've also took into account freight we will be paying for the players we'd be wanting to piss off. My analysis means we are at 9.5ish for 2023.

Name20222023StatusPosition
RFM5000Don't resignEdge
Stimson3000Don't resignEdge
Hetherington4000Don't resignEdge
Dufty4500Don't resignFull Back
Wakeham2000Don't resignHalf
Vaughan4500Don't resignMiddle
Katoa1100Don't resignOutside Back
Naden4000ReleasedOutside Back
Averillo3000To Be Let GoUtility
Waddell300100To Be Let GoEdge
JMK400100To Be Let GoHooker
Allan500200To Be Let GoOutside Back
Thompson800300To Be Let GoMiddle
Bailey HaywardFlegg80Top 30Half
Khaled RajabFlegg80Top 30Half
Alamoti15080Top 30Outside Back
Jacob KirazTrain & Trial80Top 30Outside Back
Hoffman110110Top 30Edge
ToiaTrain & Trial110Top 30Full Back
Patolo150110Top 30Middle
Topine140110Top 30Edge
BBO150150Top 30Utility
Doorey200150Top 30Edge
Cook150150Top 30Hooker
Burns150150Top 30Outside Back
Okunbor200170Top 30Outside Back
King150200Top 30Middle
Seumanufagai200200Top 30Middle
Schoupp250200Top 30Outside Back
Ryan Sutton300Top 30Middle
Flanagan450450Top 30Half
Matterson500Top 30Middle
JAC550550Top 30Outside Back
Mahoney600Top 30Hooker
Jackson600600Top 30Middle
Burton500750Top 30Half
TPJ750750Top 30Middle
Kikau800Top 30Edge
Mawene Hiroti110Top 30 - to be signedOutside Back
Franklin Pele150Top 30 - to be signedMiddle
Taylan May250Top 30 - to be signedOutside Back
Flegler300Top 30 - to be signedMiddle
Hamiso Tabuai600Top 30 - to be signedFull Back

NRLNSW Cup
FullbackHamisoFullbackToia
WingJACWingHiroti
CentreSchouppCentreAlamoti
CentreKirazCentreBurns
WingTaylan MayWingOkunbor
Five EighthBurtonFive EighthRajab
HalfbackFlanaganHalfbackHayward
PropTPJPropSeumanufagai
HookerMahoneyHookerCook
PropFleglerPropPatolo
Second RowKikauSecond RowHoffman
Second RowMattersonSecond RowDoorey
LockJacksonLockTopine
Reserve #1BBOReserve #1CUP PLAYER (Docker-Clay)
Reserve #2SuttonReserve #2CUP PLAYER (Tsikrikas)
Reserve #3KingReserve #3CUP PLAYER (Makatoa)
Reserve #4PeleReserve #4CUP PLAYER (Morrin)

When did we sign materson?
 

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Of the unsigned id only seek to keep Vaughn at a reasonable price
Id be exploring ways to move on Thompson Burns Naden Flanagan Averillo Seumanufagai Patolo Okunbor Cook JMK

Releasing players/ clubs from contracts needs lots of moving parts to fall into place
Thompson gone for 2023
 

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Exactly this. It don’t matter who plays if we were going improve under Barrett it would of happened by now. 1 and half years later we can barely score a try. We are going backwards and judging by this year it doesn’t look like Baz will change or improve anything game wise.

I also think they won’t sack him.
Think again!
 

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We need a fullback and a 7 with a shitload of experience. No ifs or buts about it. We need strong generals not eeeny meaney short dick men.
 

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Had a crack at looking at this year vs next years roster and proposed changes I'd make. I don't know the ins and outs of the cap but just kept it to 30 players and getting the thing under 10 mil.

My changes aren't drastic but there are also ones like looking to get rid of Thompson or Jackson that will improve the state of the roster dramatically,

  • Don't resign - Dufty, Katoa, RFM, Stimson, Vaughan, Wakeham
  • Released - Allan, JMK
  • Signed - Mahoney, Kikau, Sutton
  • To sign - Jayden Campbell
  • Promote - Kiraz, Hayward, Rajab, Toia
Best 17

1 Jayden Campbell 2 Naden 3 Schoupp 4 Kiraz/Alamoti 5 JAC 6 Burton 7 Flanagan 8 Thompson 9 Mahoney 10 TPJ 11 Kikau 12 Hetherington 13 Jackson 14 BBO 15 King 16 Sutton 17 Patolo

Name20222023Position
Alamoti150110Outside Back
Bailey HaywardFlegg110Half
Hoffman110110Edge
Khaled RajabFlegg110Half
BBO150150Utility
Burns150150Outside Back
Cook150150Hooker
Jacob KirazTrain & Trial150Outside Back
Patolo150150Middle
ToiaTrain & Trial150Full Back
Topine140180Edge
Doorey200200Edge
King150200Middle
Okunbor200200Outside Back
Seumanufagai200200Middle
Schoupp250250Outside Back
Averillo300300Utility
Ryan Sutton300Middle
Waddell300300Edge
Hetherington400400Edge
Jayden Campbell400Full Back
Naden400400Outside Back
Flanagan450450Half
JAC550550Outside Back
Jackson600600Middle
Mahoney600Hooker
Burton500750Half
TPJ750750Middle
Kikau800Edge
Thompson800800Middle
Dufty450Don't resignFull Back
Katoa110Don't resignOutside Back
RFM500Don't resignEdge
Stimson300Don't resignEdge
Vaughan450Don't resignMiddle
Wakeham200Don't resignHalf
Allan500ReleasedOutside Back
JMK400ReleasedHooker
R u hoping we go after Campbell?
 

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By the sounds of it Ado Carr will probably be given a crack at fullback, which might work out ok, get a couple of stronger cheaper wingers
 

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Franklin Pele signed with Tigers.
 

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His been impactful every time I've seen him, a bit surprised he's had basically no opportunity at the Sharks.
Good for other teams, surely he is getting to the point of frustration when Fifita, Tolman and Graham all play over him on their bench.
 

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His fitness and defence ????
So what, play him ~20 minutes. Sharks already good defensively. He'll learn a lot quicker with good defensive players around him.
 

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The only players im certain we shoikd be keeping are:
2. JAC
4. Kiraz (Unsure his ideal position but hes FG material)
6. Burton
8. Vaughan
9. Mahoney
11. Kikau
12. TPJ

14. RFM worth giving poor bloke a chance he was handy when injury free
15. Sutton

Basically 8 spots to fill in FG..

Schoup decent as backup depth unless he improves his game..
 

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The only players im certain we shoikd be keeping are:
2. JAC
4. Kiraz (Unsure his ideal position but hes FG material)
6. Burton
8. Vaughan
9. Mahoney
11. Kikau
12. TPJ

14. RFM worth giving poor bloke a chance he was handy when injury free
15. Sutton

Basically 8 spots to fill in FG..

Schoup decent as backup depth unless he improves his game..
I would definitely have King as well
 
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