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Yeah agree. It's worn me down for sure. I have no expectations for improvements to the team so just go with the flow and see what's in store for the club.

Curtis and LM miraculously available and we aren't in the game.

Maybe our youngsters in Wakeham, Averillo, Ok, Katoa will get a chance and provide some attack and points.
Yeah, I can understand dropping out of the LM race, I'd love to have him but its just dragged on far too long (good luck Tiggers), but I would've thought Curtis would've been worth going for...seems to fit the mold of player we are recruiting (good, not marquee but not mercernaries). Maybe we have/are idk.

Question for someone to ask at the Forum I guess...
 

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And this members forum ..

Well that is just damage control from the board.

Pull the wool over our eyes once again and offer their new range of excuses.

Enough bullshit and excuses, sign some phucking players like you promised us and we would not need a members forum to attend
Not exactly encouraging is it. I tend to agree feels like we have been lead down the garden path of empty promises thus far.
 

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Yeah agree. It's worn me down for sure. I have no expectations for improvements to the team so just go with the flow and see what's in store for the club.

Curtis and LM miraculously available and we aren't in the game.

Maybe our youngsters in Wakeham, Averillo, Ok, Katoa will get a chance and provide some attack and points.
Yup, and as for your posts.. still enjoying your opinion.. !!
 

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Mate

Again I will say this.

All the other clubs did not deplete their team then go to their members to be patient and we will go to the market with a war chest for 2021.

Why are we looking at what the other clubs are doing anyway??

All the other clubs have already have fairly formidable roster with at least a couple of stars in their line up.

We have nada ...

We need a shake up or that's what we were lead to believe
Yeah...correct - no other club had such incompetence to bet the farm on a $10m salary cap when it ended up being $9.4m - an automatic $600k deficit before you even get out of bed.
And that's what we know - that only addresses the 'ratchet clauses' where salaries went up when the cap when up. So already the ceiling was reached (or 95% of it) and then you have to pay more when the actual cap went up!
And that doesn't address the backended contract debacle - for example deals that were signed in late 2015 such as Greg Eastwood getting a 3 year deal 2016-2018 being paid ~$800k in his final year. His career was pretty much over - and we were paying him massive dollars to play mostly reggies.
Raelene couldn't even use Excel? Where was Dib with his role requiring oversight of what decisions the executives had made? Utter shambles...

As for other clubs - I'm not interested.
My comparison was the panic on here that we've 'done nothing about 2021' which a) no one knows until the club is ready to speak and b) no other club has made a similar announcement - so why all this belief that we are at such a dis-advantage? Where's the evidence?
How many employees give 12+ months notice of their intention to change jobs? Even if a player has agreed to terms with the Dogs for 2021 - why announce it now? Likely their club would want to cut them loose for 2020 (eg: Mitchell/Chooks) and guess what - we don't have the money to take them for 2020.
So both the club and the player/manager are keeping their powder dry until it's the right time to say something.

As for nada - yeah, that's true - see above the reasons why. That will be 99% alleviated at the end of season 2020 when all those debts are paid.
Exactly what our allegedly incompetent board told us in May 2018 at the Member Forum.
 

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And this members forum ..

Well that is just damage control from the board.

Pull the wool over our eyes once again and offer their new range of excuses.

Enough bullshit and excuses, sign some phucking players like you promised us and we would not need a members forum to attend
I find this statement ignorant and ridiculous - but hey, it's a democracy.
Have a good one mate.
 

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Then how could we afford to sign, napa,DWZ Crichton,Stimson,Britt,Chn???
Reackon that lot is worth close to 2M IF NOT more ...
Yeah...correct - no other club had such incompetence to bet the farm on a $10m salary cap when it ended up being $9.4m - an automatic $600k deficit before you even get out of bed.
And that's what we know - that only addresses the 'ratchet clauses' where salaries went up when the cap when up. So already the ceiling was reached (or 95% of it) and then you have to pay more when the actual cap went up!
And that doesn't address the backended contract debacle - for example deals that were signed in late 2015 such as Greg Eastwood getting a 3 year deal 2016-2018 being paid ~$800k in his final year. His career was pretty much over - and we were paying him massive dollars to play mostly reggies.
Raelene couldn't even use Excel? Where was Dib with his role requiring oversight of what decisions the executives had made? Utter shambles...

As for other clubs - I'm not interested.
My comparison was the panic on here that we've 'done nothing about 2021' which a) no one knows until the club is ready to speak and b) no other club has made a similar announcement - so why all this belief that we are at such a dis-advantage? Where's the evidence?
How many employees give 12+ months notice of their intention to change jobs? Even if a player has agreed to terms with the Dogs for 2021 - why announce it now? Likely their club would want to cut them loose for 2020 (eg: Mitchell/Chooks) and guess what - we don't have the money to take them for 2020.
So both the club and the player/manager are keeping their powder dry until it's the right time to say something.

As for nada - yeah, that's true - see above the reasons why. That will be 99% alleviated at the end of season 2020 when all those debts are paid.
Exactly what our allegedly incompetent board told us in May 2018 at the Member Forum.
 

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Then how could we afford to sign, napa,DWZ Crichton,Stimson,Britt,Chn???
Reackon that lot is worth close to 2M IF NOT more ...
3 of those were 2019 signings (Napa/Crichton/CHN)
1 of those was a mid-season signing, originally for 18 months (DWZ). His new deal is from 2021 and part of cap clear air.
2 of those were 2020 signings (Stimson/Britt)

How did we afford them?
Because from the 2017 and 2018 squad we got rid of: Reynolds, Graham, Mbye, Woods, The Morris Brothers, Eastwood, Klemmer, Kasiano, Liccha, Fine, Fualalo, Brown and Martin.
Now obviously some of those fellas would've been on bigger dollars than others.

Contracts at their end: Reynolds / Morris x 2 / Eastwood / Kasiano / Liccha / Fualalo / Brown
Contracts we had to pay at least a chunk of for players to play elsewhere: Graham / Mbye / Woods / Klemmer - some of the most expensive players on our books at the time.
That doesn't even consider Foran.

No-one ever said we had 'no' money - they said we could not be active in the player market again until '2020 at the earliest, most likely 2021' - and that's exactly how it's playing out.
 

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Semi is a million a year player. We are not in the market for a million a year player.
 

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It's frustration mate
Mate I get it - we all get it.
It's painful watching our great club struggle through a difficult time like this.
I've been following the club for more than 40 years - I go to most games every season.
This really hurts.

But we had no choice. I think if we hadn't let go the likes of Mbye / Woods / Klemmer - the road back would've been even harder.
The current board aren't perfect because no-one is. But at least they recognised we were in a hole and stopped digging.
Unfortunately there was no ladder for a quick exit from the hole, we've had a climb a makeshift rope instead.

We are nearly there.
I'm looking forward to celebrating the good times again with my fellow Kennelers sooner rather than later!
 

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I'm still trying to recover from your comment about raelene not been able to use excel......deary me.

I still believe if we can nab those 3 players I mentioned and another big prop will hold us in good stead for 2021.
3 of those were 2019 signings (Napa/Crichton/CHN)
1 of those was a mid-season signing, originally for 18 months (DWZ). His new deal is from 2021 and part of cap clear air.
2 of those were 2020 signings (Stimson/Britt)

How did we afford them?
Because from the 2017 and 2018 squad we got rid of: Reynolds, Graham, Mbye, Woods, The Morris Brothers, Eastwood, Klemmer, Kasiano, Liccha, Fine, Fualalo, Brown and Martin.
Now obviously some of those fellas would've been on bigger dollars than others.

Contracts at their end: Reynolds / Morris x 2 / Eastwood / Kasiano / Liccha / Fualalo / Brown
Contracts we had to pay at least a chunk of for players to play elsewhere: Graham / Mbye / Woods / Klemmer - some of the most expensive players on our books at the time.
That doesn't even consider Foran.

No-one ever said we had 'no' money - they said we could not be active in the player market again until '2020 at the earliest, most likely 2021' - and that's exactly how it's playing out.
 

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I'm still trying to recover from your comment about raelene not been able to use excel......deary me.

I still believe if we can nab those 3 players I mentioned and another big prop will hold us in good stead for 2021.
OK - silly comment re: Excel - but how did it get so badly cocked up?
And even if there were significant mistakes at executive level - what were the directors doing to let it go through without adequate oversight?
Why didn't the then Chairman or another of the directors say 'this doesn't pass the smell test - this doesn't add up' - who can explain how it got so bad to begin with?

As for 2021 signings - you could well be right. We obviously need to recruit as well as bring young fellas through. The problem was for 2019 we had two hands tied behind out back. For 2020 we've got one hand tied. 2021 the gloves are off and it's game on...
I honestly believe there's a plan. It will be unveiled. The waiting might suck, but it hopefully will be worth it.
 

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Semi is a million a year player. We are not in the market for a million a year player.
Not on the wing, but saying that Semi is more than a winger and personally I think he makes more busts than LM
 

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Just been reported in the telegraph that he is willing to sacrifice 2M cause he is homesick ..
Saw this also but couldn't see who the stab in the dark team was as I don't have a dollar lol
 

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If we land semi I’d have a full fledge hard on
 

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Semi Radradra set to sacrifice rugby’s millions, snub Eels in NRL return
Cross-code superstar Semi Radradra is set to sacrifice millions and return to the NRL on a cut-price deal, revealing to friends which Sydney club he wants to sign with.

Former Australian winger Semi Radradra is so homesick he is prepared to take a $2m pay cut to return to the NRL.

The Daily Telegraph has been told French rugby union star Radradra is telling friends he wants to join South Sydney.

The giant Fijian winger, who previously played for Parramatta, is seeking a return to Australia because of homesickness, France’s cold weather, and family reasons.


Radradra left Australia for French club Toulon in 2017 before switching to rivals, Bordeaux, last year.


He was worth around $1m a year when he left the NRL but sources claim Radradra would now accept offers of around $500,000-a-season.

At age 27, Radradra would chase a four-year deal worth a combined total of around $2m – half the money he was earning two years ago. He just wants to come home.

A third party is said to be acting between Radradra and NRL clubs.

Souths, Canterbury and Parramatta have been linked to Radradra with the Rabbitohs said to be his preferred choice.


One source close to Radradra said several clubs were “circling.”

Parramatta wouldn’t comment about any potential interest in Radradra when contacted. Radradra was spotted socialising with his former Parramatta teammates recently but was noncommittal about a rugby league return.

Souths officials are tiring of answering questions about possible recruits given the club has been linked with Radradra, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, David Fifita and Tyson Frizell.

The Rabbitohs have money to spend though through the retirements of Sam Burgess and John Sutton and George Burgess’ return to England.

NRL officials may reveal Souths’ salary cap dispensation amount from Sam Burgess’ enforced retirement next week. The Burgess money could be directed at Radradra or Arrow.

“Apparently Souths are looking at every player (according to speculation) but first we’ve got to sort out what the go is with Sam (Burgess),” Souths hooker Damien Cook told Sporting News.

“But Semi Radradra is a quality player and he did a great job when he was in the NRL. He’d be a great asset to most clubs.

“Who knows (what will happen)? We will see how it plays out.”
Radradra played 94 matches for Parramatta between 2013 and 2017, scoring 82 tries. He left Australia ranked among the NRL’s finest wingers.

In 2015 he scored 24 tries in 18 games for the Eels. Radradra has played 10 rugby union Tests for Fiji, scoring five tries.

Souths, NSW and Kangaroos forward Cameron Murray added: “I haven’t been following Semi’s (rugby) career too closely but obviously what he did in the NRL was incredible.

“He is one of those freak athletes who gets the job done on the wing. He’d be a great asset to any NRL side and the NRL as a whole.

“It would be great to have him back in the NRL playing as well as he was.”

Radradra made his international rugby union debut for Fiji last year and represented the Pacific nation at this year’s World Cup in Japan where he was a standout performer.
 
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