Salary cap what is it ?

[Dawgfather]

I heard we aren’t paying Graham or Kas or any other player apart from Mbye and Woods beyond this year

I think you are right on Graham:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/b...l/news-story/4fda44ee724883a3c14f3cfbd76ef3c2

Says that he signed until 2018.

 

[Vek]

Sharks next year

Holmes on big 700 plus
JMOZ would be on 3=400
Dugan would be on 500 plus
Moylan would be on 6-700
Townsend would be on 5-700
Graham
Gallen
Lewis
Woods
Brailey
Fifita
Prior
Segeyaro

plus a shitload of good juniors fringe players

And we cant afford anyone, when all we have left is Klemmer Jackson Foran Tolman on decent coin???

110%

Its all in the third party deals. Our club aint doing any atm whilst everyone else is.

Think of it like this. Very successful team, winning GFs, very attractive to sponsors (due to winning). They are more likely to get TPAs due to their success.

Whilst the bottom clubs with no wins dont get this opportunity.

I think there is some cheating involved, but I think most of it comes down to the current successful clubs being able to abuse TPAs thanks to their stronger success than the bottom clubs.

Just imo.

 

[Kaz]

Was talking to a someone at work today who is an accountant for the dragons and is heavily involved in contract negotiations and they said having first hand experience with contracts and managing the salary cap they can’t understand how the roosters, Sharks, storm and broncos have the teams that they have. According to this person it is impossible that they would not be cheating the cap in some way!!

LMFAO

Since when are accountants involved in contract negotiations.

Has your accountant friend heard of TPA's. Obviously not.

 

[Born&BredABulldog]

Makes you wonder ?

You can add the the storm and roosters into that category. I’d love to know who their accountants and lawyers are, they can advise the dogs on how to rort and use the loopholes in the salary cap. It’s not like the club doesn’t have any money outside of the cap.

 

[Oatley Dog]

100% it’s a grey area alright brother!! And that’s an understatement lol

What's grey about it? It is pretty simple and straight forward. Not going to go over it again for the hundredth time but the rules are as simple as can be. If a club rorts the system that's a risk they take and as Melbourne found out they lose their competitions and get fined massively for it.

 

[bulldogsfan_88]

LMFAO

Since when are accountants involved in contract negotiations.

Has your accountant friend heard of TPA's. Obviously not.

Wasn’t a friend was actually someone I met at work!! Just letting you know what they told me not claiming to have inside information or anything just passing on what I was told!! Can take it with a grain of salt since I don’t know the person personally

 

[Dawgfather]

LMFAO

Since when are accountants involved in contract negotiations.

Has your accountant friend heard of TPA's. Obviously not.

Why is it surprising that club accountant(s) have some level of input to the negotiations?

Who do you think is advising the coach / football department on the salary cap and the budget they have etc.

 

[KiwiDog7]

Usually when a fk up of this magnitude occurs whether in sport or corporate world the club advises a third party to undertake a full review /report of its findings

Anyone doing ours?

I’m not counting Deathspell rogue attempts either

 

[haz123]

Why is it surprising that club accountant(s) have some level of input to the negotiations?

Who do you think is advising the coach / football department on the salary cap and the budget they have etc.

Don't need an accountant if you don't have a Cap.

 

[wendog33]

Usually when a fk up of this magnitude occurs whether in sport or corporate world the club advises a third party to undertake a full review /report of its findings

Anyone doing ours?

I’m not counting Deathspell rogue attempts either

I'd be thinkin' a full report and accounting of where these funds have gone is very much warranted. In fact legally mandatory from the new Board. With the roster left now, and I take into account all the explanations from Oatley Dog, but geez it's hard to tally up 9.1 mil with our roster and compare that to rivals' playing roster.

Something very odd has apparently happened with Dib and co's calculator and spreadsheet.

 

[KiwiDog7]

I'd be thinkin' a full report and accounting of where these funds have gone is very much warranted. In fact legally mandatory from the new Board. With the roster left now, and I take into account all the explanations from Oatley Dog, but geez it's hard to tally up 9.1 mil with our roster and compare that to rivals' playing roster.

Something very odd has apparently happened with Dib and co's calculator and spreadsheet.

I agree

It’s doing my head in!

Someone just hack the spreadsheet from our CEO laptop lol

 

[MatstaDogg]

You can add the the storm and roosters into that category. I’d love to know who their accountants and lawyers are, they can advise the dogs on how to rort and use the loopholes in the salary cap. It’s not like the club doesn’t have any money outside of the cap.

Pretty sure Cam Smith is Melbournes accountant.

 

[The DoggFather]

Why is it surprising that club accountant(s) have some level of input to the negotiations?

Who do you think is advising the coach / football department on the salary cap and the budget they have etc.

Des

 

[The Big Issue]

It really not that hard. It’s a very basic equation.
Unfortunately Manly is still suffering from The Des days and he left them 2011.
Once our cap is cleared it will only be the beginning, we will then struggle to attract quality/star players as we will be viewed as a club where careers go to die.

 

[XR6T]

We probably have a cap of about $3million....the other $6.4million is paying for the rest of our team playing at other clubs...lol

 

[The Big Issue]

We probably have a cap of about $3million....the other $6.4million is paying for the rest of our team playing at other clubs...lol

You would think Cronulla wouldn’t take woods for over 500 which means we pay the balance of 500 for the next few years,

Mbye was on 800 and I couldn’t imagine the tigers paying more than 500 so we are forking our 300 there for the next few years .

Graham was on about 850 and I bet we are paying about 300 of that

There’s$ 1.1m we r shelling out on other clubs just there.

 

[Dawgfather]

Des

lol the sad fact is that in our case, this is true.

 

[Emdog85]

You would think Cronulla wouldn’t take woods for over 500 which means we pay the balance of 500 for the next few years,

Mbye was on 800 and I couldn’t imagine the tigers paying more than 500 so we are forking our 300 there for the next few years .

Graham was on about 850 and I bet we are paying about 300 of that

There’s$ 1.1m we r shelling out on other clubs just there.

That is just your opinion. None of that is fact, you're just guessing

 

[Dawgfather]

That is just your opinion. None of that is fact, you're just guessing

He's probably not accurate but he's probably not far off. I think it just supports the point that our cap is fkd through our own previous management's making.

Other clubs have taken advantage of our poor fortune, just as I expect we would take advantage if another club desperately had to offload players.

 

[The_Chimpster]

Salary cap, what's that?