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Finland has officially put in its bid to join NATO. Putin earlier threatened military action if Finland tried to join NATO but it sounds like Russian forces are struggling in Ukraine. So I don't think they'll be able to follow through with their threats.
 

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Finland has officially put in its bid to join NATO. Putin earlier threatened military action if Finland tried to join NATO but it sounds like Russian forces are struggling in Ukraine. So I don't think they'll be able to follow through with their threats.
The longer This goes, the bigger the joke he looks.
 

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Finland has officially put in its bid to join NATO. Putin earlier threatened military action if Finland tried to join NATO but it sounds like Russian forces are struggling in Ukraine. So I don't think they'll be able to follow through with their threats.
Not the first time Russia (or the USSR) have tried to invade Finland in the last 100 years.

Went as well as the Ukraine war is going.
 
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Finland has officially put in its bid to join NATO. Putin earlier threatened military action if Finland tried to join NATO but it sounds like Russian forces are struggling in Ukraine. So I don't think they'll be able to follow through with their threats.
Turkey isn't happy about them joining either.
 

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Nah, that was a false rumour. Erdogan came out saying that he doesn't know where the rumour came from, but Turkey fully supports Finland joining NATO.
Yeah I was trying to figure out why Turkey is having a say about it...
 

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nato was setup to fight USSR so they formed it by gathering up all the former nazi officers and collaborators they could find

finland is just another animal for their nazi zoo, zalensky tweeted one of his officers wearing a nazi emblem in his victory day celebratory tweet ffs
 

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Russians. Now they are saying they will put some captured Ukrainian fighters on trial for war crimes. Obviously tit for tat however difference is Russians are killing citizens. Defending your country as a soldier isn't a war crime. Idiots.
 

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Some Russian officials have started speaking out against Putin. Looks like it won't be long until Putin is overthrown.
 

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From a purely military perspective - have the view that that the Azov's that surrender in Mariopul should be interred somewhere in Eastern Russia, treated per prisoner of war norms quietly with Red Cross access but no footage. Out of sight and out of mind and evidence they are well treated.

The Russian concept of possible executions is basically playing to the 'electorate'. Its just reinforcing there is no way back to some sort of normality in Russian - Ukraine relations.

Wars are generally stupid. This one in terms of what Russia wanted to achieve and what they will achieve is mind bogglingly stupid.

And what makes it super stupid is the war model they have used is exactly the same they used for Crimea etc. Its like they didn't think Ukraine would prepare for it.

Bonkers
 

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Haven't read this thread for ages, sorry if already posted and this remains speculative but I did say earlier that one of the reasons for Vlad invading may have been that he's crook and writing his epitaph. A British spy seems to agree...
 

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Haven't read this thread for ages, sorry if already posted and this remains speculative but I did say earlier that one of the reasons for Vlad invading may have been that he's crook and writing his epitaph. A British spy seems to agree...
I think he wants to be remembered alongside Lenin and Stalin before he snuffs it.
 

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Vodka + hardcore vehicles = joyride...

 

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Anyone that thinks it's anything but a proxy war for the U.S. . . .Dreaming

 

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well, once again the KLL information network is correct. Russia has stopped throwing in the bums from the streets they were using and are now using real core military. better cohesion, tactics and commitment. Ukraine are being pushed back despite better weapons from the west.

But this is costing Putin. Losing random kids is an internal PR exercise for the Russians. Losing core military is a bigger long term issue.

And its awkward. If the US sends over the real good stuff, that will help push the Russians back but weakens the US at a time when China are flexing a few muscles.

This is becoming bigger and more of a problem. So what it the answer???

well - as usual - the KLL has the way out of this problem. And the answer is in China.

China economic woes have been flagged and if recent reports are correct are starting to hit home. Warn China that continued trade with Russia will be frowned on and potentially lead to trade sanctions. Tell leading US companies that your economic policies will force them to remove their manufacturing from China, and get some of the bigger ones to pull there stuff now for faves later (they can argue its in prep for trade sanctions).

If China stops buying everything from Russia, then the pressure on Putin increases and hopefully enough for someone to grow some balls and get rid of him. In the meantime, this isn't going to be great for the world economy.

Unfortunately, don't think Biden is strong enough for this.
 
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