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SMH Quade cooper at 6 for dogs?

Discussion in 'Rumours' started by capt obvious, Apr 14, 2020.

  1. Nexus

    Nexus Why so serious? Staff Member

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    Juniors need time on the field to get experience and develop. Why should that time be given to Cooper?

    Whats wrong with our current leadership group? Whats wrong with Foran, Tolman and Jackson? Between those 3 alone they have played hundreds of games as well as at the highest level. What could Cooper add in experience that they cant?

    If your main argument is "We are no worse off", then thats a pretty week argument. I wouldn't be spending money with that reasoning.
     
  2. Dogna88

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    Lets be honest. I want it mostly for some entertainment. Would make it very interesting to watch rather than the shit in the first 2 round. So I'm not going to push too hard.

    But shit, you are making it out as though we would be signing a reserve grader.

    But yeh Foran will take one halves spot for the rest of the year. Lewis will take another. Wakeham/averilo in line after that of anyone is injured. Let them learn for the remaining 15 games we might play this year.
     
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  3. Nexus

    Nexus Why so serious? Staff Member

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    He might be little better than a reserve grader in League, thats my whole point. We have no way to tell, nothing to compare to and at his age is just not worth the risk.

    The dude doesnt even play top tier Rugby now, and our AR players are fucking rubbish.

    Imagine if a top player suddenly became available for some reason but we couldnt afford it because we decided to waste money on Cooper just to see how he would go? What if it cost us retaining a player or promising young junior? He would take upa spot in the 30 meaning someone else would miss out.

    He is not the player we need right now.
     
  4. utility half

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    I’m not being particularly sensitive. I’m just questioning the merits of debating with someone who is just going to laugh at me and ask me to repeat myself. The obtuseness irritates me much more than the rudeness, tbh.

    I’m 100 percent wrong? I know you are, but what am I? Lol... you can’t debate with a person who makes that sort of statement.
     
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  5. Nexus

    Nexus Why so serious? Staff Member

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    Mate you came into the debate making sweeping generalisations and sarcasm so you got exactly what you deserve. If you entered the debate not being a smart ass I probably would have approached you different.

    Dont start crying about it now.
     
  6. capt obvious

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    Wow, its my opinion i think its worth a shot, the guy wants a go, why not give him one, thats what being an australian is, no need to make it a argument, you can agree to disagree!
    I respect your opinion
     
  7. Malla

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    No chance in hell. Not fit enough.
     
  8. El Padrino

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    short answer No
    long answer Noooooooooo



    I have said my piece
     
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  9. bullpup71

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    Blake green rings a bell
     
  10. Expedite

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    The guy is trouble wherever he goes, and as a rugby fan, I dont think he is that good. He plays one good game in 5. He is not worth the coin he would ask for at all. The guy is a bigger wanker than most.
     
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  11. Nexus

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    Yeah I think a lot on here forget what a wanker he is and has been when talking about his so called leadership skills.

    The guy is a fucking thief. Remember when he stole those laptops from a house on the GC?
     
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  12. Dogs79

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    I think age is the main factor. If he was even 27-28 he could have had a few years in league and given his natural instincts to play attacking football he would be worth a risk. But he’s 32, he’ll probably be done in 12-18mths and we have now committed to these young guys for 2021 and maybe beyond so they need to be fast tracked in the experience department and this year should be ideal to get that experience with very little expectations on results. At this stage, any positive play and development is a bonus for 2021 and beyond.
     
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  13. Baby Blues

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    I’m not sure we have ‘money to spend’. There’s a reason the league is desperate to restart and it’s not clear what the salary cap implications will be for this year and possibly next.
    Aside from the potential cash flow issues I don’t see how Cooper would fit a coherent recruitment or retention strategy.
    We have Foran, Wakeham and Cogger coming off contract this year and it will be interesting who is retained from that group
     
  14. Tassie Devil

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    Wait. What? He got charged for that?

    I'm more intrigued why people would look to sign a guy in the last years of his playing career, who doesn't even play our code, in a position we've already got someone playing in. Most talk about short-term but so is Foran? And if both are fit?

    No doubt this guy has talent but I'd hope the club looks a bit more for the future.
     
  15. utility half

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    Salary cap changes would have to result in reductions in pay across the board if and when they were put in place and those reductions would have to be put in place by the NRL - the body which registers contracts and is struggling financially. We just had two players deregistered, so however they work out potential pay reductions, we are missing two of our top 30 and would theoretically have some money to spend.

    Foran can not possibly be re-signed unless it is for a small fraction of the money he is commanding now. If he's not willing to sign for the minimum amount the NRL will register him for, he needs to go. In any case, I don't see how next year's signings would impact on a short term signing with a 12 month option in the club's favour. If the club decides to retain those three and not take up that 12 month option, it would be well within its rights.
     
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  17. Cappuccino Pay

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    if its free why not
     
  18. doggieaaron

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    Hell no hes a turnstile in rugby
     
  19. Baby Blues

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    You don’t know how things will play out with the cap. Squad sizes could be reduced to save money with additional players only on the league minimum. I’m not assuming anything at this stage it’s not really a debate just my point of view
     
  20. Dannyboi88

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    I’d sign him for this year I’d the comp gets up and running at reduced rate can’t hurt to see how he go better then Lewis and coggar who knows might go half alright we got good service out of kimmorley when we signed him at the tail of his career
     

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