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I would like you to prove that the Vatican has made adeal with the Italian Government to protect paedopliles.
The one thing you can be sure about is that Italians are the world's worst at keeping anything hidden in house, so if what your saying is true, it would be world news within a few days.
BTW it is fact with all who harbour some form of hate, to regard the truth as an option.

Attached is the United Nations Convention of the Rights of the Child - Alternative Report on Italy.

Page 7 - "Zanardi hopes the map will help convince Italians of the need to finally bring child abusing clerics through the civil justice system. “The Italian government has a treaty with the Vatican which means priests are not obliged to report child sexual abuse. In other countries that is a serious crime in itself – but in Italy it's just the norm.” The majority of Church child abuse investigations in Italy are therefore carried out behind a wall of secrecy in the Vatican’s ecclesiastical courts."

Face facts mate, you and your ilk defend and support an institution whose hierarchy deliberately, willing and with great gusto, continue to hide and protect paedophiles from the law. This is not a couple of bad apples, this is not some rogue group within the church, THIS IS THE VATICAN, the spiritual leaders of your church protecting paedophiles.
 

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There's also a map overlay used by law enforcement that tracks file sharing of known child exploitation material (child porn). It identifies the nominated image/s through the unique hash value embedded within the image. Anyways it basically shows you a map of the world with a pin drop for every active download. It's very disturbing to see how widely shared images are, but anyways if you go across to Italy it is absolute mahem. Pin drops everywhere, small country in land area I know, but an incredibly high and disproportionate amount of child abuse image sharing in that country
 

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If Church peope say that certain acts are sinfull, it is nit attacking them it is only giving them advice.
That's not what you said. Don't try to twist it. You said:

"If I had to bet I would say that you are one of those who get it up the a--se"
 

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Again. You're really out of your depth here.

1. You really need to re-read your posts to make sure they make sense

2. We are condeming "believers" who preach to people who dont believe about issues that have no effect on them what so ever. Ie SSM, homosexuality. And if you make the other persons "sin" about you, thats the height of arrogance and self righteousness. You can't dance around it.

3. Lol at "you are one of those who get it up thr a-se" comment. You old fool. Let your religious homophopihia flourish
I never even heard church talk about gay people, apart from Falau. All Church services inside or outside our Church involve praying, ie, giving glory to God.
The problem with you and a few others, is that you are so blinded by hate that it has made you very sick, perhaps you should be forgiven if you are on drugs. If you can't see any good with the Catholic Church or any other Demonation you are a danger to yourself and badly in need of help
A good classic exaple of been sick with hate is Kambala, he comes on the fan forum of our club which he hates, he has said so himself, (BTW every single rotter fan I've known have had a hatred for our club even got into fights about it).
He then starts a thread about how a Church rips of money it made from running a retirement home, he then proceeds to find other reasons to peddle his hate against Christianity.
Him and a few others then use the fact a few Church people do terrible things and then continually peddle their hate by continually saying that all priests are either Paedophiles or cover up for them. He then exposes, exagurates and makes up stories of other instances around the world, as if Priests are the only ones who have committed an form of evile acts.
When you continually peddle stuff some true or partly true against an individual or instution, when virtuall everybody knowns what the institution stands for, you are doing it because you are intoxitated with hate, you are not doing it for any other reason
BTW Dogna88 do you follow the club and want it to be successfull, if you do then do you know the reason why our football club got started in 1935, because I do, and I can spell it out for you.
 

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I never even heard church talk about gay people, apart from Falau. All Church services inside or outside our Church involve praying, ie, giving glory to God.

Marriage postal plebiscite

Australians are being asked to vote in the Australian Marriage Law Postal Survey (plebiscite) to determine whether the legal definition of marriage should be changed to include same-sex unions. Ballot papers will be sent out from Tuesday, 12 September and all votes must be received back by Tuesday, 7 November 2017.

This brochure provides an overview of Pope Francis’ teaching on marriage and the family for you to reflect upon.

Please consider voting to keep marriage as a unique relationship between a woman and a man.
 

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Look. I like the Pope. He's the most progressive Catholic Pope there has ever been. But if you encourage your flock to shit down a basic human right because of the way you interpret an ancient book. Then you're not a good person. You're a bigot.
 

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That's not what you said. Don't try to twist it. You said:

"If I had to bet I would say that you are one of those who get it up the a--se"
Judging by fine print in some of the anti Church related posts, it certainly looks to me that it is those who sympthise with the practice of gay sex, (or perhaps practice it themselves) who habour the most hatred for the Catholic Church.
 

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Judging by fine print in some of the anti Church related posts, it certainly looks to me that it is those who sympthise with the practice of gay sex, (or perhaps practice it themselves) who habour the most hatred for the Catholic Church.
Do you believe atheists should be able to tell Catholics how to live their life according to their bible?

Should atheists have the power to tell Catholics which one of their beliefs are valid and invalid?

I'm guessing your answer is no, we shouldn't be able to tell you how to live your life.

Thats what you're doing to other people, you're telling others that they are living their life wrong.

We're saying believe what you want but keep it to yourself, don't force it on us
 

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Judging by fine print in some of the anti Church related posts, it certainly looks to me that it is those who sympthise with the practice of gay sex, (or perhaps practice it themselves) who habour the most hatred for the Catholic Church.
That could be you projecting.

But I can understand that. As I posted above. The Catholic Church on behalf of the Pope made a statement urging Church members in Australia to vote against same sex marriage. To vote to shut down a basic human right.

I don't care if it came from the head of the Church, the head of some evil corporation. God. The devil. A Christian or an Atheist. I don't care who says it. But if you tell people to vote against gay marriage it is no different to telling peope to vote against interracial marriage. It's no different to racism. What the Church said is bigotry pure and simple.
 

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Do you believe atheists should be able to tell Catholics how to live their life according to their bible?

Should atheists have the power to tell Catholics which one of their beliefs are valid and invalid?

I'm guessing your answer is no, we shouldn't be able to tell you how to live your life.

Thats what you're doing to other people, you're telling others that they are living their life wrong.

We're saying believe what you want but keep it to yourself, don't force it on us
Firstly if you have better information than what Christians theoligians have about what the bible says lets hear it, I'mm all ears.

Athiests can tell me what they want, and as a person willing to learn and a Christian I will listen.

I get a lot of advice from all sorts of people athiests, JW and many more.

I only became involved in the anti God Religious thread because some decided to turn a fotball thread into a hate Christanity thread.

Where have I said that you and others should go to church, respect other peoples right to practice their Christian faith.
 

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Where have I said that you and others should go to church, respect other peoples right to practice their Christian faith.
here
If Church peope say that certain acts are sinfull, it is nit attacking them it is only giving them advice.
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So you're saying that telling people that what they are doing is wrong is insulting.
here
Is it possible that those who complain about the Catholic Church teaches know or feel deep down that the Church might be right, because if the Church approved of their actions or (lifestile), they would be less worried about the terrible place HELL
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if I had to bet I would say that you are one of those who get it up the a--se, and you have turned against the Catholic Church because it dosen't approve of it.
There's many more instances littered throughout this thread of you saying people are living in sin/wrong.
 

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That could be you projecting.

But I can understand that. As I posted above. The Catholic Church on behalf of the Pope made a statement urging Church members in Australia to vote against same sex marriage. To vote to shut down a basic human right.

I don't care if it came from the head of the Church, the head of some evil corporation. God. The devil. A Christian or an Atheist. I don't care who says it. But if you tell people to vote against gay marriage it is no different to telling peope to vote against interracial marriage. It's no different to racism. What the Church said is bigotry pure and simple.
It generally accepted rightly or wrongly that gay sex involves the practice of sodomy, (please let me know if it is not so). Jesus himself said that man who lies with man will not enter the Kindom of Heaven.
Gay marriage is about promoting the concept of man lying with man, So how can an instution which preaches Christs teachings accept gay marriage.
BTW Jesus saved the adulterist women from been stoned, but also told her go and sin no more.
Why do you make such an issue of it considering the fact that the supporters of gay marriage won the referendum, even though marriage had been regarded as union betteen a man and a woman since time memorial.
Gay sex sodomy or what ever, is a practice people can do or refuse to do, the fact that their exists different races in the world is a natural thing created by God, (you should learn more about the good Samatarian).
 

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I never even heard church talk about gay people, apart from Falau. All Church services inside or outside our Church involve praying, ie, giving glory to God.
The problem with you and a few others, is that you are so blinded by hate that it has made you very sick, perhaps you should be forgiven if you are on drugs. If you can't see any good with the Catholic Church or any other Demonation you are a danger to yourself and badly in need of help
A good classic exaple of been sick with hate is Kambala, he comes on the fan forum of our club which he hates, he has said so himself, (BTW every single rotter fan I've known have had a hatred for our club even got into fights about it).
He then starts a thread about how a Church rips of money it made from running a retirement home, he then proceeds to find other reasons to peddle his hate against Christianity.
Him and a few others then use the fact a few Church people do terrible things and then continually peddle their hate by continually saying that all priests are either Paedophiles or cover up for them. He then exposes, exagurates and makes up stories of other instances around the world, as if Priests are the only ones who have committed an form of evile acts.
When you continually peddle stuff some true or partly true against an individual or instution, when virtuall everybody knowns what the institution stands for, you are doing it because you are intoxitated with hate, you are not doing it for any other reason
BTW Dogna88 do you follow the club and want it to be successfull, if you do then do you know the reason why our football club got started in 1935, because I do, and I can spell it out for you.
Smh at this post.
 

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It generally accepted rightly or wrongly that gay sex involves the practice of sodomy, (please let me know if it is not so). Jesus himself said that man who lies with man will not enter the Kindom of Heaven.
Gay marriage is about promoting the concept of man lying with man, So how can an instution which preaches Christs teachings accept gay marriage.
BTW Jesus saved the adulterist women from been stoned, but also told her go and sin no more.
Why do you make such an issue of it considering the fact that the supporters of gay marriage won the referendum, even though marriage had been regarded as union betteen a man and a woman since time memorial.
Gay sex sodomy or what ever, is a practice people can do or refuse to do, the fact that their exists different races in the world is a natural thing created by God, (you should learn more about the good Samatarian).
Again.... fmd..... you are out of your depth. Preach your bigotry to your fellow church members.

DONT ACCEPT SODOMY WITHIN YOUR CHURCH. No one gives a flying fuk.

Stop thinking you're giving non believers "advice" about a faith of God they dont believe in or give a shit about. ITS THE HEIGHT OF ARROGANCE AND SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS
 

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Firstly if you have better information than what Christians theoligians have about what the bible says lets hear it, I'mm all ears.

Athiests can tell me what they want, and as a person willing to learn and a Christian I will listen.

I get a lot of advice from all sorts of people athiests, JW and many more.

I only became involved in the anti God Religious thread because some decided to turn a fotball thread into a hate Christanity thread.

Where have I said that you and others should go to church, respect other peoples right to practice their Christian faith.
Of course it’s a hate Christianity thread. It’s the bottom line really. Just have a look at the Religious debate thread, scroll through it, it’s got hundreds of Mocking and laughing at Christianity posts with cartoon imagery humiliating the Christian faith. They talk about freedom Lollll, how is that freedom to come on a public footy forum and get faced with that. It’s insulting! The real funny thing is they then turn around and call us bigots! Hypocrisy much? I don’t know, I’ll let you decide. I think those calling others out as Bigots(a very loose word by the way) should have a very hard look at themselves because maybe after all they are the true Bigots!
 

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If Church peope say that certain acts are sinfull, it is nit attacking them it is only giving them advice.
Who do you and the Church think you are?

Arrogant, self righteous pricks. Leave those who dont believe in your God or his dribble alone.
 

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It generally accepted rightly or wrongly that gay sex involves the practice of sodomy, (please let me know if it is not so). Jesus himself said that man who lies with man will not enter the Kindom of Heaven.
Gay marriage is about promoting the concept of man lying with man, So how can an instution which preaches Christs teachings accept gay marriage.
BTW Jesus saved the adulterist women from been stoned, but also told her go and sin no more.
Why do you make such an issue of it considering the fact that the supporters of gay marriage won the referendum, even though marriage had been regarded as union betteen a man and a woman since time memorial.
Gay sex sodomy or what ever, is a practice people can do or refuse to do, the fact that their exists different races in the world is a natural thing created by God, (you should learn more about the good Samatarian).
He also said that anyone who gets drunk or has sex outside marriage will not enter heaven so good luck with that.

But I'm not talking about the Church accepting homosexuality. They don't have to. But there's a difference between "I don't accept this" and "I'm going to actively work against this"

The Church encouraged people to vote against gay marriage. The church doesn't own marriage. It's not theirs to decide who can and can't get married.

If they tell their paritioners to abstain from voting, or vote how they want, that would be fine. But they actively told their followers to shut down gay marriage.

I'm not sure how that can be seen as anything other than attempting to control the lives of the non-religious. It's bigotry pure and simple.

Btw, do you also support voting against interracial marriage or is that where you draw the line?
 

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Of course it’s a hate Christianity thread. It’s the bottom line really. Just have a look at the Religious debate thread, scroll through it, it’s got hundreds of Mocking and laughing at Christianity posts with cartoon imagery humiliating the Christian faith. They talk about freedom Lollll, how is that freedom to come on a public footy forum and get faced with that. It’s insulting! The real funny thing is they then turn around and call us bigots! Hypocrisy much? I don’t know, I’ll let you decide. I think those calling others out as Bigots(a very loose word by the way) should have a very hard look at themselves because maybe after all they are the true Bigots!
I don't recall you getting banned from posting stuff.

"freedom" doesn't mean you are protected from being criticised.
 

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I cannot understand why this is so hard to fathom. If there was a vote to ban Christianity in Australia and I went around encouraging people to vote to ban Christianity, I would be a bigot. Pure and simple. And when there's a vote for gay marriage and people go around telling people to vote against it, they are being bigots.

Using your religion as a tool of oppression doesn't make you the hero. It makes you a bigot.
 
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