Paul Kent - Players Can't Have It Both Ways

[TalDog]

Can’t believe buzz made that comment on Coffs Harbour and Hughes

Law suit anyone ?

 

[blueyedsamurai]

If this is out of line please delete but the attached dickhead is the guy who took the photos! He cannot get away with it and just do it again to the next unsuspecting person!

We have to make life hell for these lowlife scumbags!

Looks like he took them for his own personal collection.

 

[Howard Moon]

How about the NRL do something about the game where it already exists instead of worrying about Perth and fkn Denver of all places.. look at the crowds for the Sharks, Roosters and Chooks on the weekend, these three teams all are a big chance of winning the premiership... the game is way too politically motivated now and people are getting over it

 

[Kelpie03]

Me too and I reckon out of the ones I read it was like 1 in 20 and that one is an obvious hatred towards the Dogs. Fans from all teams are unleashing towards the media and admin. Most are saying that it's the media bringing the game into disrepute due to chasing negative nothing stories. It's a complete beat up and I am over the moon they are copping it from every angle. Way bigger issues with RL then some young blokes unwinding and getting on the piss. With corruption, cheating and the worst admin in RL history at the helm we have bigger concerns IMO.

The very people doing the most harm to the game are the games commentators and on that list is Kent, and the NRl Admin are so stupid that they can't see it.

 

[Raza50]

It is time our CEO stands up and cancelled the contracts of the player, players, staff who damage our brand, our image and perception of the family club, enough is enough.
No action from our club, will jeopardise our membership and as such our performances moving forward.
Quick decisive action will send a string message of zero tolerance from the family club.

 

[Mr. Ditkovich]

It is time our CEO stands up and cancelled the contracts of the player, players, staff who damage our brand, our image and perception of the family club, enough is enough.
No action from our club, will jeopardise our membership and as such our performances moving forward.
Quick decisive action will send a string message of zero tolerance from the family club.

I agree with you. The only problem is they can’t cancel the contract of the Daily Telegraph for taking and posting those photos, as no other person would have seen what the players were doing.

 

[Wahesh]

The normal emoji's on this forum don't express it good enough, so I'll use my own. Here we go...

(1) BUZZ YOU KARMICHAEL A PRIVATE FUNCTION ROOM IS NOT FULL VIEW OF THE PUBLIC YOU UNEDUCATED PIECE OF EGGPLANT SHIT!!!

(2) WERE YOU THERE AT COFFS HARBOUR? WAS THERE ANY CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT ANYTHING HAPPENED IN COFFS HARBOURS? IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS IS NO, THEN I SUGGEST YOU SLICE OFF YOUR TONGUE AND USE IT TO WIPE YOUR ARSE!!!

 

[Novdoggie]

Buzz Rothfield and Paul Kent would have to be the most negative people going around. All they do in whinge about everything and anything they can report. If you lived with these two on a day to day basis your life would be miserable.
It is the likes of these two reporters and their colleague's that are making the game sound so dire and putting so much negative spin on stories.

Without Rugby League these reporters will not have a job. These reporters think they can control the game from the outside and influence the running of it on and off the field.

These are reporters that have an agenda simply to justify their jobs and increase the bottom line of their business.

 

[SKY-DOG]

The Corrupted Weaponised Media is disgusting, everyone knows the truth, it was mad Monday drinks at a private function. You can’t lie and push a false narrative. We see this constantly with the non stop Trump bashing by the fake news and guess what... It doesn’t work idiots, we are all loyal supporters that will never turn our back in the club
So a big FUCK YOU Paul Kent,
FUCK YOU Daily telegraph..

 

[bricktamland]

https://outline.com/www.dailytelegr...r/news-story/9d44c10b6e5ae8a20179ad6579b75d1d

NOBODY knows how much Neil Diamond’s Sweet Caroline, accompanied by several nude dancing Bulldogs, and their little bulldogs, has cost the game.

Australian Rugby League Commissioner Peter Beattie was in Perth on Tuesday to meet Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan and three other ministers.

Beattie was asking for money, promising to bring rugby league to Perth if they delivered the cash.

“It’s embarrassing,” Beattie said. “You just look like bit of a goose.”

The Bulldogs went page one with their mad Monday antics at the Harbour View Hotel, one of Sydney’s great pubs.

It followed the typical course.

Outrage at the players and in defence of the players followed in equal parts.

It showed once again how the narrative gets hijacked, taken away from all common sense.

So before we go further let’s take the outrage all the way down.

Too often the conversation gets reduced to a debate about the players’ right to celebrate their season (in this case, a solid 12th placing), and the media’s right to report it, as if they are the only two sides.

Both are highly emotional but irrelevant arguments. There are bigger considerations.

This time last year the NRL, in the wake of a $2.1 billion broadcast deal, was negotiating a Collective Bargaining Agreement with the Rugby League Players Association.

The players drove hard for a share in the game’s revenue.

James Maloney, a RLPA board member, set the tone early.

“We want to all be incentivised to grow the game,” said Jimmy the Gent.

“If we’re genuine partners in the game and we’re getting a percentage of the revenue then it’s in our best interests to grow the game and make it better. It’s not about trying to get anything ridiculous and reasonable. It’s just about getting value, I suppose, for what we contribute to the game.”

The players got their revenue share, a massive 29.5 per cent of forecast revenue. They also split four ways, with equal amounts to them, the NRL, the clubs and grassroots, all non-forecast revenue.

The players asked to be treated as businessmen during the negotiation and they were treated, and now paid, that way.

A basic fundamental of business, though, is people don’t pay you more and expect the same.

So when the NRL agrees to pay the players more, for a game driven by public reputation, its expectation was the players would work with them to promote the game in a positive light.

That cannot be avoided.

The players are in an industry that has public profile.

Two days ago Brisbane captain Darius Boyd complained the game was no longer fun because of the “negative” media, which prompts the question, what is negative?

A story about bad refereeing? A team’s poor season? An insolent player refusing to get off the bus until he got paid?

Negative does not mean unfair.

Getting naked in a pub while a teammates grabs a player another teammate on the little bulldog is self-inflicted.

But unable to defend that behaviour, the argument shifts to the media’s right to report it and this contrived desire to be negative.

This game draws more than half its annual funding from the media and benefits by media coverage promoting it.

When players sign a contract to play in the NRL they are accepting a life where more than their performance on the field is fodder.

Like Hollywood, Canberra politics or life in the NFL, everything is copy. Like it or not it is part of the deal. The game, after all, has to find Jimmy Maloney’s money from somewhere.

The RLPA is apparently no help.

The RLPA issued an embarrassing statement that quickly descended into gibberish.

“We share the disappointment of other stakeholders regarding the impact that these incidents can have on the perception of the game and players …” began RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast.

It said everything it would be expected to say without ever addressing the issue.

If the RLPA does not understand the professional standards required for a game that depends on its public image — “they are entitled to let their hair down at the end of a tough year” — what hope is there?

The Bulldogs had a tough year? Talk to their supporters.

Over the next five years NRL players will pocket $782.8 million.

That is before a dollar is invested in grassroots. Their funding comes from a percentage of the money left over.

Beattie has spent the past two days in Perth trying to grow that NRL funding pool.

Then he walked into this.

“It reduces the amount of money that comes to the game, that comes from sponsors, from Government allocation,” he said.

“That means less money for clubs, less money for players.

“It hurts everybody.”

The NRL has never done a costing for how much player related incidents have cost the game over the years. Players believe one sponsor leaves and another enters and life carries on evenly.

There is no realisation the game could have both, which means they could spend both. The money would runs into tens of millions.

The NRL is about to launch its women’s competition this weekend. The NRL Women’s Premiership was fast-tracked after sponsor Harvey Norman threatened to withdraw all its NRL funding if it did not make the game more female friendly.

That means the money in the men’s pocket.

“We have to attract women to support this game and we know women hate this behaviour,” Beattie said.

“That’s not being sexist. It kills us as a game.”

Paul Kent for pretty much this whole season along with his fox sports colleagues have openly slammed Peter Beattie and how he is way to out of his depth as ARL commission chair... yet when trying to make an argument about Bulldogs mad monday he pretty much directly uses him as his first point of reference ...

No Paul I think people like you bagging Peter, along with all of news limited portraying him in a negative light (wether right or wrong) would have a far more negative impact. Why would state officials want to invest with someone who has been portrayed as such a idiotic fool ? Please tell us Paul...
I personally think this is more harmful than a few players having a good time in what was suppose to be a private setting.

The amount of times this bloke contradicts himself in this article is amazing...

Kent is the most arrogant of all journalist , atleast rothfield and Ritchie are reasonable at times (and I’m a QLdR) ..
Kent was saying how diabolical the dogs were and the directions they were going then bagged Hasler , then praises him then bags him and lastly when manly and Barrett were parting ways they spoke about it again he said hasler should get the gig ? He is the biggest toss , you watch when someone’s asks or tells a question such as ikin or Lewis he just sits there on his slanted stance and can tell he thinks he’s the king . Fuck Kent . And he’s An eels supporter too

 

[bricktamland]

anyone possibly think that seeing As buzz is the senior editor At telegraph that maybe they have this Article which really is nothing to get the media heat off Cronulla ? Could be a secret ploy for buzz without colleagues knowing

 

[Raza50]

How hard is it to arrange an private end of year event, unless the intention was to take it up to the media and public and as such put oneself in the spotlight.

I suppose it is as hard as planning to be competitive and play to our supporters expectations.

We lost on both counts, 2019 is already starting to hurt, Cant believe we cant learn from our past. Go the Dogs in 2019.

 

[Sleeky]

 

[Bulldog_NJ]

Why is it OK for people to walk around, dance naked in the strrets, and perform lewd acts in front of children and the media at the gay and lesbian Mardi Gras every year? This is celebrated by the Media, Todd Greenberg and the NRL. Why is it NOT OK for people to pick up a camera and take photos through someone's window or over their fence, yet these grubby journos and photographers did exactly that. Why is it OK for them to exploit Adam Elliot and photograph him while he's naked? Can they do the same to a topless woman at Bondi Beach?

 

[KLil]

I blame the sharks.. Teams are so scared to organize strippers now they have to strip themselves.

 

[Flanagun]

The Corrupted Weaponised Media is disgusting, everyone knows the truth, it was mad Monday drinks at a private function. You can’t lie and push a false narrative. We see this constantly with the non stop Trump bashing by the fake news and guess what... It doesn’t work idiots, we are all loyal supporters that will never turn our back in the club
So a big FUCK YOU Paul Kent,
FUCK YOU Daily telegraph..

Don't bring Trump into this. That buffoon pushes just as many false narratives as the media you distrust. The media is 100 percent right to bash that bottom feeder.....the hypocrisy comes into play when it fails to apply the blowtorch to the DNC in equal measure.

 

[JoeyG]

Paul Kent has it both ways with Rothfield.

Mr Invisible did you mean he ‘takes’ it both ways,ha ha

 

[bulldogfan1]

Kent is right.
Consider this.
Suppose you own a company and you sell a particular product.
Part of your marketing strategy is to advertise and associate your company with the NRL for various reasons.
The reason you do this is to maximise sales.
You obviously pay the NRL/clubs to associate yourself with them with the hope that it maximises sales.
The NRL players then RECEIVE these marketing/sponsorship dollars and therefore are aiding in the promotion of your companies products.
Wether they like it or not, the fact that they accept this money, the players AUTOMATICALLY become role models.
You cannot accept there money and be the face of that company and think you can act in anyway you want.
Players cannot have it both ways.

 

[Malla]

Kent is right.
Consider this.
Suppose you own a company and you sell a particular product.
Part of your marketing strategy is to advertise and associate your company with the NRL for various reasons.
The reason you do this is to maximise sales.
You obviously pay the NRL/clubs to associate yourself with them with the hope that it maximises sales.
The NRL players then RECEIVE these marketing/sponsorship dollars and therefore are aiding in the promotion of your companies products.
Wether they like it or not, the fact that they accept this money, the players AUTOMATICALLY become role models.
You cannot accept there money and be the face of that company and think you can act in anyway you want.
Players cannot have it both ways.

You have a point but it just makes the game look stupid when their major sponsors are alcohol brands and gambling agencies - that's all. You don't condone the behaviour yet you go to bed with them to sponsor and fund your game.

 

[The DoggFather]

If this is out of line please delete but the attached dickhead is the guy who took the photos! He cannot get away with it and just do it again to the next unsuspecting person!

We have to make life hell for these lowlife scumbags!

Seeing what he looks like confirms he loves taking photos of penises.

 

[The DoggFather]

Why is it OK for people to walk around, dance naked in the strrets, and perform lewd acts in front of children and the media at the gay and lesbian Mardi Gras every year? This is celebrated by the Media, Todd Greenberg and the NRL. Why is it NOT OK for people to pick up a camera and take photos through someone's window or over their fence, yet these grubby journos and photographers did exactly that. Why is it OK for them to exploit Adam Elliot and photograph him while he's naked? Can they do the same to a topless woman at Bondi Beach?

Because Adam is a straight, white male.