NASCAR - Noose found hanging in black drivers garage

[Dawgfather]

Why would anyone want to generate this sort of negative media attention? Give me one logical reason. I'm sure you can't. What possible reason would Bubba Wallace, his team members or Nascar have for seeking their own public character assassination?

Because being a victim in the year 2020 is trendy. You can become famous just by being a victim.

No one knew who Bubba Wallace was before this (I certainly didn't, and 99% of Australia probably didn't either).

He had his car pushed ahead of every other driver's car in some sort of fake show of support only a few days ago.

There are benefits to being a victim, rather than a few decades ago when the benefits went to those who were competent.

The only motive for Jussie Smollett to fake his crime was to gain benefits through becoming a victim. When people start faking hate crimes that are so blatantly false that you have to laugh (when presented with the evidence), it's a clear sign that being a victim is a business model.

 

[Dawgfather]

They're just reporting on the popular topics..

It is clearly not the job of the media to report on the topics that are popular.

Also, when 'popular' topics are reported by the media, they should be reported in a black and white evidence based way until there is actual evidence to support an opinion one way or the other.

The media are fools and they were caught out trying to prop up Jussie Smollett for weeks when that whole fiasco happened. They attempted to do the same thing here and lucky for them the FBI completed their investigation quickly which meant the media weren't able to go overboard for weeks.

 

[Flanagun]

Because being a victim in the year 2020 is trendy. You can become famous just by being a victim.

No one knew who Bubba Wallace was before this (I certainly didn't, and 99% of Australia probably didn't either).

He had his car pushed ahead of every other driver's car in some sort of fake show of support only a few days ago.

There are benefits to being a victim, rather than a few decades ago when the benefits went to those who were competent.

The only motive for Jussie Smollett to fake his crime was to gain benefits through becoming a victim. When people start faking hate crimes that are so blatantly false that you have to laugh (when presented with the evidence), it's a clear sign that being a victim is a business model.

He's being ridiculed and attacked from keyboard warriors all over the country and beyond. Why would he want people to know who he was, knowing full well he will be ridiculed for it? Having your car pushed is a great trade off for being attacked by every know all amateur super sleuth on the internet.....said no one ever. Jussie Smollett believed there was a high probability he would not be exposed, that's a fundamental difference. Bubba Wallace could not have been under the same misapprehension. He would know full well a thorough investigation would have been conducted and would have known about the Jussie Smollett incident and how that worked out for the guy. Not to mention you are still glossing over the fact that the rope had been there since long before Bubba wallace even used the garage....and that he was notified about it by the president of NASCAR - who also believed it to be a racist incident. Your argument makes no sense.....zero, nada, zilcho.

It's no more "fashionable" to be a victim than it is to be a passive aggressive racist douche bag.

 

[The DoggFather]

The guy made a mistake and he should admit it rather than doubling down. And he'll obviously get backlash for it because that's just how people are. It's partly just because people like to be arseholes (we all know this), but it's partly because the covert racists just want to make that bad black man look worse. The media were also happy to jump on it as soon as it came up for obvious reasons. Because they're media and popular topics get the clicks. That's not to say that the media is to blame for it. They're just reporting on the popular topics.

There is a problem with racism in NASCAR. They only just banned the Confederate flag and there has been a massive uproar of angry people complaining that they should be allowed to wave the Confederate flag. Many are boycotting NASCAR. I don't know how anyone could be pissed off about not being allowed to wave a definitive symbol of racism around. And it is at every NASCAR race until now.

Why the fuck does a confederate flag have any meaning to NASCAR? Or any value in today's world?

 

[Dawgfather]

The funniest thing about the 'racism' debate is that America had most recently:

- A black TV star / singer faked a racism crime, but there is such a lack of racist people in America that he needed to hire two black african immigrants to pretend to beat him up lol!
- A black president
- Accepted Millions of immigrants from all over the world
- Immigrants from all over the world put america as their number one place to immigrate to

Sure racism is a naturally occurring phenomenon all around the world, but the idea that America just 'deeply racist' is a facade.

 

[The DoggFather]

. Not to mention you are still glossing over the fact that the rope had been there since long before Bubba wallace even used the garage....and that he was notified about it by the president of NASCAR - who also believed it to be a racist incident. Your argument makes no sense.....zero, nada, zilcho.

This is the reason I concluded about 3 pages ago that it's a PR stunt for a redneck sport (based on any attention is good attention) and/or the media is pushing this bullshit agenda for clicks.

I did think the poor Bubba bloke was innocent, but listening to his dribble and lies even after the FBI investigation, go no time for lying ***** looking to push a agenda.

Just like that other lying ****, they are damaging BLM more than any cracker can. Every act of racism will be seen as a hoax off the bat now, thanks to these dumb *****.

 

[The DoggFather]

Lying **** finally shuts the fuck up with his bullshit agenda.

PS James Woods ain't having none of his crap lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1275857392455094272?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1275857392455094272&ref_url=https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-debunks-bubba-wallace-nascar-noose-conspiracy-theory

PPS the lying prick talks about "unity" lol he and his handlers tried their best to destroy the "unity".

 

[Hacky McAxe]

It is clearly not the job of the media to report on the topics that are popular.

Also, when 'popular' topics are reported by the media, they should be reported in a black and white evidence based way until there is actual evidence to support an opinion one way or the other.

The media are fools and they were caught out trying to prop up Jussie Smollett for weeks when that whole fiasco happened. They attempted to do the same thing here and lucky for them the FBI completed their investigation quickly which meant the media weren't able to go overboard for weeks.

I think you mean, "in my opinion this is what the media should be doing"

And I would agree with that. But that's not the media's job. The job of everyone who works for the media is to make money. That's how they operate. Their moral standpoint is to report on the truth, not necessarily from an unbiased standpoint. But their job is to make money for their corporation.

 

[Flanagun]

I think you mean, "in my opinion this is what the media should be doing"

And I would agree with that. But that's not the media's job. The job of everyone who works for the media is to make money. That's how they operate. Their moral standpoint is to report on the truth, not necessarily from an unbiased standpoint. But their job is to make money for their corporation.

And that attitude of valuing the almighty dollar over all else is one of the cornerstones of the Western society dawgfather is such a fan of.

 

[Dawgfather]

I think you mean, "in my opinion this is what the media should be doing".

No I don't mean this.

The role of an independent media in a western democracy is fundamental. Democracy does not function effectively without a media that is generally free from government intervention and bias generally.

The further you get away from this ideal, the less effectively a democracy can function because people stop learning the truth of what is happening in their society.

In relation to America (and to a much lesser extent in Australia), the media are simply serving as a 'bolt-on' to the established political parties.

The likelihood of any journalist in America reporting the 'unpopular truth' to the community is getting lower and lower as the years go on. CNN, MSNBC and a number of others are simply mouth pieces of the Democractic party and behave as activists and not as journalists.

The same could be true of Fox to an extent where you have Sean Hannity simply repeating talking points for Trump.

 

[Dawgfather]

And that attitude of valuing the almighty dollar over all else is one of the cornerstones of the Western society dawgfather is such a fan of.

Yes I am a fan of capitalism to the extent that it acts as an incentive to entrepreneurs to come along and solve problems for people with the reward being monetary gains which improves the lives of many people including:

The entrepreneur
Employees (who had jobs created for them by the entrepreneur)
Suppliers
Contractors

These people are rewarded with an income as well as a sense of purpose which is fundamental to anyone's quality of life

Of course with anything in life there are positives and negatives. The positives are above, the negatives are below:

Potential for corruption and fraud if people are left unregulated and without proper monitoring
The possibility some companies grow so large they act as an impediment to society generally or to other businesses in the industry.

Both need to be addressed by government to the extent the government creates regulatory bodies as well as creates laws to punish those who break the rules.

 

[CaptainJackson]

No I don't mean this.

The role of an independent media in a western democracy is fundamental. Democracy does not function effectively without a media that is generally free from government intervention and bias generally.

The further you get away from this ideal, the less effectively a democracy can function because people stop learning the truth of what is happening in their society.

In relation to America (and to a much lesser extent in Australia), the media are simply serving as a 'bolt-on' to the established political parties.

The likelihood of any journalist in America reporting the 'unpopular truth' to the community is getting lower and lower as the years go on. CNN, MSNBC and a number of others are simply mouth pieces of the Democractic party and behave as activists and not as journalists.

The same could be true of Fox to an extent where you have Sean Hannity simply repeating talking points for Trump.

Are you fucking serious?

I'm seriously gobsmacked.

I'm not even going to waste my time what you think of Australia's media landscape. Its heavily directed towards extreme right wing, even the abc has been made toothless in holding this government accountable

 

[Dawgfather]

Are you fucking serious?

I'm seriously gobsmacked.

I'm not even going to waste my time what you think of Australia's media landscape. Its heavily directed towards extreme right wing, even the abc has been made toothless in holding this government accountable

I'm not suggesting we discuss the detail of the australian media landscape. I simply made the fairly reasonable suggestion that our media does a much better job of journalism than the american media who have become activists for their political parties (both left and right).

 

[Nasheed]

I told you all this didn't add up and NASCAR shouldn't rush to judge and virtue signal.

mum not going to wait for the apology.

 

[Bob dog]

How is that a noose?
What he gunna do?
Hang himself by his dick?

Plenty of other minority groups doin rough by Government agenda

 

[Flanagun]

I told you all this didn't add up and NASCAR shouldn't rush to judge and virtue signal.

mum not going to wait for the apology.

No apology for you, dickhead. Still no evidence whatsoever to suggest Bubba Watson pulled a Jussie....which is what you suggested.

 

[Nasheed]

No apology for you, dickhead. Still no evidence whatsoever to suggest Bubba Watson pulled a Jussie....which is what you suggested.

It was one of my suggestions in light of something not being quite right and adding up. The brains of the forum, the Nasheeds, the Assassins, the user that has dog in his name, we could see it. Deep level thinkers.

you however said somethang along the lines of it being abhorrent and the suggestions it's not real was absurd.
You swallowed it hook line and sinker. You are the useful idiot Yuri warned us about in 1985.

 

[Nasheed]

@utility half

 

[The DoggFather]

It was one of my suggestions in light of something not being quite right and adding up. The brains of the forum, the Nasheeds, the Assassins, the user that has dog in his name, we could see it. Deep level thinkers.

you however said somethang along the lines of it being abhorrent and the suggestions it's not real was absurd.
You swallowed it hook line and sinker. You are the useful idiot Yuri warned us about in 1985.

From the start I took his claim serious as come on, it is Murika and a redneck "sport". The place is a shit hole with plenty of shit c***s. No denying that.

But when the facts came out and that dickhead kept pushing an obvious agenda and pushing more dumb sheep to hate that's when I lost sympathy for him.

It's fkn sad and disgusting that in 2020 we still have racism from both sides that even this "false flag" had legs.

Everyone invol ed in this bullshit is even in the blame, from the media fueling racism, Noosecar for not coming out with the truth just to get any attention (or attention from rednecks) to Bubba himself who tried to keep up the bullshit by calling it a noose when obviously you couldn't hang a rat from that "noose".

All this has done has backfired and fucked up the genuine activists who are trying to stop this bullshit.

PS to clarify my stance, I didn't call bullshit because of his skin tone or to defend rednecks, I purely called bullshit because of the untrusted media who love drama to get more clicks, no matter if it's true or not.

PPS Murika does have a racism problem, so does he majority of the world including us. It exists because I amongst other have copped it and still cop it.

Try being a Middle Eastern male with a long beard driving a nice car. You just learn to tune the inbreds out and just laugh at them.

 

[The DoggFather]

How is that a noose?
What he gunna do?
Hang himself by his dick?

Plenty of other minority groups doin rough by Government agenda

Give it a few minutes and I'm sure dick hanging will be a porn hub category lol