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News Manly salary cap breach

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  1. ASSASSIN

    ASSASSIN The Bearded Crusader Premium Member Gilded

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    Fixed ;)
     
  2. ASSASSIN

    ASSASSIN The Bearded Crusader Premium Member Gilded

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    Or Parra lol
     
  3. _G-Dog_

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    Parra were still allowed to.play for points & make the finals .. they should have been given the spoon like we were
     
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  4. ASSASSIN

    ASSASSIN The Bearded Crusader Premium Member Gilded

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    Fair point. The Storm basically got away Scott free and kept who they wanted to keep.
     
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  5. Oatley Dog

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    They did lose Inglis, Hoffman and a few others. They were just smart enough to keep the big 3 and work around them.
     
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  6. ASSASSIN

    ASSASSIN The Bearded Crusader Premium Member Gilded

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    Might not be a popular view I have but good on them for proving the nrl is a rubbish, backyard job.
     
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  7. chisdog

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    And the boats!
     
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    NRL are the biggest corrupt scum.

    Bulldogs cheat cap in one season = loss of 37pts and $500,000 fine.
    Storm cheat cap = loss of points and fine
    Brisbane cheat cap = Andrew Gee resigns and the rest swept under carpet
    Parra cheat cap for 5yrs = Win 3x Wooden Spoons, loss of 12points
    Manly cheat cap for 5yrs = still to be determined but will be no loss of points.

    Looks like the more you cheat the cap, the less penalty you get!!

    Wait until the Cocks get nailed....
    Probably cheating the cap for the past 10yrs = BONUS 10points to your ladder tally and an additional $500K to your sombrero for the next 5yrs!!
     
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  9. chisdog

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    In 2005, the Warriors were fined $430,000 and were ordered to start the 2006 season with a four premiership point deficit and cut their payroll by $450,000 after club officials revealed that their former management had exceeded the salary cap by $1.1 million over the last two years. The points penalty meant that the Warriors missed a finals berth in 2006.

    In 1991 it was revealed that the Canberra Raiders had substantially breached their $1.5 million salary cap (doubled it!) for the 1990 season.

    In 2000, the Knight were fined $158,800 but did not have any points deducted after club officials revealed that they had exceeded the salary cap by a total of $454,100 and failed to disclose third-party payments during the 1998 and 1999 seasons.

    In 2004, the Bulldogs were fined $82,300 but did not have any points deducted after club officials revealed that they had fallen below the salary floor by $159,600 and were late in lodging documents relating to financial and contract details of a player during the 2003 and 2004 seasons.

     
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  10. _G-Dog_

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    The whole things a joke and will continue to be a joke as long as the players are allowed to take the 'unders' they take to join the Rorter$

    Not long ago SBW signed with them for 600K in 2013, he felt he was dudded by us at 500K in 2008,

    Tedesco accepts 700K, when us and the Tigers were offering 1.2 & 1.1Mill respectively
     
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  11. chisdog

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    Roosters.jpg

    I can't access this because of the pay wall, can anyone else & put it up?
     
  12. _G-Dog_

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    The Current Rorter$ CEO was the Manly ceo during their salary cap drama.. The Rorters will never get pinged for anything dodgy.. Politi$ is too good an operator
     
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  13. Lov_Dog

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    Manly Sea Eagles salary cap breach: Roosters boss Joe Kelly dragged into drama
    DEAN RITCHIE, The Daily Telegraph
    December 12, 2017 5:00pm
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    THE Sydney Roosters have been sensationally dragged into Manly’s salary cap drama after the NRL issued a breach notice to their chief executive Joe Kelly.

    The Daily Telegraph understands Roosters boss Kelly received the breach for his alleged role as Sea Eagles CEO between October, 2014, and September, 2016 — a position he stepped down from.

    Kelly is one of two club officials facing deregistration by the NRL.

    The Daily Telegraph knows the identity of the other official but cannot name him on legal advice.

    Kelly, whose mobile phone was switched off on Tuesday, was appointed Roosters CEO in April this year. He is understood to be shattered at the prospect of being kicked out of rugby league.

    The Daily Telegraph understands Manly chief operating officer Neil Bare was heavily involved in balancing the club’s salary cap.

    The Kelly drama comes as Sea Eagles chief executive Lyall Gorman admitted salary cap allegations against his club were “serious”.

    Manly officials and the club’s legal team were poring over myriad allegations and findings on Tuesday after the NRL sent the embattled Sea Eagles a breach over alleged third-party payments dating back five years.

    In another day of drama at Brookvale, The Daily Telegraph can reveal:
    THE club’s breaches could be more than the $400,000 first floated;
    ● PLAYER managers have told of two former Manly stars they insist were owed a total of $450,000 in non-paid third-party payments. Neither agreements were put in writing;
    ● INDUSTRY experts claim the negative investigation could cost Manly up to $10 million in lost advertising and revenue;
    ● MAJOR sponsor Lottoland has vowed to stand by Manly through the investigation;
    ● A CONCERNED Gorman, who started as Manly CEO less than a month ago, called a staff meeting on Tuesday morning to discuss the NRL investigation, telling club employees “that the one thing we can do is control our future, our values and our culture”.

    Sports sponsorship and marketing experts believe the potentially damaging cap issues could set Manly back five years.

    “Competition for sponsorship dollars has never been tougher,’’ one said. “Signage at grounds is harder than it’s ever been before. Your brand and integrity is everything. It could be a lights-out moment for Manly. This could set a club back five years. It’s hard to keep your head above water if you’re a strong club and Manly isn’t financially sound. This could cause Manly irreversible damage and cost them up to $10 million in lost sponsorship and revenue. These are really challenging times in rugby league. A lot of areas are down financially but the salary cap keeps going up.”

    Gorman said his club wouldn’t be rushed into responding to the NRL findings.

    Manly’s punishment could include $400,000 being taken off their salary cap next season and a fine of up to $1 million.

    “There have been some serious allegations in these preliminary findings,” Gorman said. “These issues need to be addressed. It is incumbent on us to take the time to work through the documentation we have been given to form an appropriate response. This investigation, as I understand it, took six months and we were only provided with the detailed document (on Monday). There is a significant amount to work through. It’s a process that can’t be rushed, a process that needs to be right to protect the best interests of all. What we won’t do is run our response through the media. We will respect the protocol of the game. Once we have formed a detailed response, we will submit it through the appropriate channels. We are trying to do that as quickly as we can but also take the time to ensure our response is an appropriate one in context to what has been provided to us. My focus is to put every ounce of energy into making sure this is a great club for many, many years to come. These issues need to be confidently led in how we manage them from a transparency and integrity point of view.”

    Manly employed three other CEOs over the past five years while the alleged salary cap breaches were unfolding.

    While Kelly did not return calls, former Manly CEOs David Perry and Tim Cleary preferred not to comment.

    There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Perry or Cleary.
     
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  14. GrogDog

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    Considering how easy it would be to clean up this issue it makes one wonder why they never even try.........doesn't it?
     
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    Geez this gives me the shits! It's got barely anything to do with the Roosters. This is why I stopped buying newspapers! #FAKENEWS!
     
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    So the NRL MUST deduct points from the Sea Eagles in 2018 given what's happened over the years if they wish to retain consistency. Just like...

    Bulldogs 2002
    Warriors 2006
    Storm 2010
    Eels 2016

    BE CONSISTENT, NRL!
     
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    So apparently manly have signed dragqueens forward thompson. How the fuck can they sign a player after all of the salary cap issues they have now discovered?
    Apparently they have until jan to prove the claims wrong, and if they cant they may have to shed players. So why the fuck are the NRL allowing them to sign players and registering their contracts?? Especially when thompson still had a year to run on his contract.
    Im just completely baffled. What kind of fucking retarded rules allow this. The NRL really is run by a bunch of monkeys!!
    ba
     
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  18. Mr Invisible

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    @flamebouyant these cap offences are historical, not this year.

    But if they end up fined and a cap reduction it'll probably be for 2019.

    So he steps down from Manly Sep 2016. When did the police investigations into them begin?

    Hmmm any other time they'd be more than happy to drag someones name through the dirt and then issue a pisspoor retraction notice when caught out as liars.

    How doesn't it?
    CEO that jumped ship from Manly when it sounds like he knew shit was going to hit the fan, is now running the Roosters.
    Roosters cap is beyond questionable at the moment.
     
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    I realise this, but the article says they will likely have a reduced cap for next year if they cant prove their innocence. In any case, they should not be signing players if there is any chance they are operating with a reduced cap next year. Remember how long it took the NRL to approve foran and woods contracts??
     
  20. Bulldogs09

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    Reduced cap will be next year though the word was they had 800k free and face 400k fine. Still enough for Thompson.
     

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