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Hacky McAxe

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I locked the old thread as no one was using it and it wasn't set up very well.

This thread is for posting, discussing, debating conspiracy theories. Please keep conspiracy stuff in this thread for discussion.

Do not clog up the other threads with conspiracy stuff. If it's valid stuff, sure. Post it in the other threads. But if it's stuff that only appears on questionable YouTube videos, if is not a relevant topic of discussion for the normal threads. Please keep it in this thread.
 

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Rod's video of Peter Daszak discussing potential gain of function research. Currently a conspiracy. Could turn out to be true. Discuss.

 

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Is that really why you locked the other thread????
In part. Mainly because the thread was just taking the piss out of certain conspiracy theorists. The main point of this thread is to have actual, fun conversation.
 

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Rod's video of Peter Daszak discussing potential gain of function research. Currently a conspiracy. Could turn out to be true. Discuss.

you have to explain it to me because my expertise is hardcore pornography and Formula 1, is his statement from 1:07 in line with PCR amplification or what he is describing gain of function?
 

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btw im very disappointed with this move away from the main covid thread, you asked me for evidence and then when i get some momentum you put me into the corner so nobody will see it being discussed
 

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you have to explain it to me because my expertise is hardcore pornography and Formula 1, is his statement from 1:07 in line with PCR amplification or what he is describing gain of function?
Basically what he said is that you insert the spike protein into a cell. This is a process where you take the spike protein from a virus and insert it into a human cell to see if it attaches to the human cell.

It's a diagnostic thing. If the spike protein attaches to the human cell then that tells you that the virus could infect humans. If it doesn't attach then the virus couldn't infect humans.

Here's a simple analogy to explain it. The spike protein is effectively a key (lock and key mechanism). If you get a key and try to unlock a door, and that door unlocks, then you've discovered that the key can unlock that door.

You didn't change the key in any way. You're just finding out if that key can unlock a door.
 

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btw im very disappointed with this move away from the main covid thread, you asked me for evidence and then when i get some momentum you put me into the corner so nobody will see it being discussed
Nah. Just trying to keep the current confirmed information separate from the unconfirmed/conspiracy information without anyone getting banned from the threads.
 

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BTW, if you're curious, here's the research they're discussing. Admittedly I did completely forget about it which is odd because I had this debate with a friend a few weeks back that resulted in me going over the research. But lockdown has messed with my brain so I forget everything. Including my own name.

 

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Basically what he said is that you insert the spike protein into a cell. This is a process where you take the spike protein from a virus and insert it into a human cell to see if it attaches to the human cell.

It's a diagnostic thing. If the spike protein attaches to the human cell then that tells you that the virus could infect humans. If it doesn't attach then the virus couldn't infect humans.

Here's a simple analogy to explain it. The spike protein is effectively a key (lock and key mechanism). If you get a key and try to unlock a door, and that door unlocks, then you've discovered that the key can unlock that door.

You didn't change the key in any way. You're just finding out if that key can unlock a door.
what does create pseudo particles and insert spike proteins mean?
why is he describing each step you get closer and closer to the virus becoming pathogenic in people?

this language to me certainly suggests modification, but whatever the case his discovery that they have found it can be passed to humans and his connection to the wuhan lab clearly is a conflict of interest and he should not be organising any statement that the virus was naturally occurring without declaring it, he should not be appointed to any form of investigation by the WHO

there is zero chance that he will find that it leaked from the wuhan lab (0%), it was a set up by the WHO bill gates puppet organisation
 

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so yes you shipped me off to the area where they discuss touching yourself and Josh Reynolds

nothing against touching yourself, but this is serious business now
 

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so yes you shipped me off to the area where they discuss touching yourself and Josh Reynolds

nothing against touching yourself, but this is serious business now
A guy earlier today refused to get in a lift with me because I didn't have a mask on (He was wearing a mask).
 

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what does create pseudo particles and insert spike proteins mean?
why is he describing each step you get closer and closer to the virus becoming pathogenic in people?

this language to me certainly suggests modification, but whatever the case his discovery that they have found it can be passed to humans and his connection to the wuhan lab clearly is a conflict of interest and he should not be organising any statement that the virus was naturally occurring without declaring it, he should not be appointed to any form of investigation by the WHO

there is zero chance that he will find that it leaked from the wuhan lab (0%), it was a set up by the WHO bill gates puppet organisation
Pseudotyping of a virus is when you create what is effectively a replica of the virus but it doesn't have the viral properties. It can't infect, it can't kill, it's basically just a simulation (but a genetic version)

When you create pseudo particles you basically sequence the genes of the virus, then you create a non-infectious replica of part of the virus using genetic sequencing.

In this case they created the spike protein. Then they injected the spike protein into human cells in a petrie dish to see if the spike protein would attach to those cells.
 

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Think of it this way. You have a guy who died from a bullet wound. You think you know what bullet it is, so you 3D print that bullet. No gunpowder, no lead. Just a plastic version of the bullet. You line it up to see if it fits.

You didn't create a gun. You didn't create gunpowder. You didn't even create a real bullet. Just a pseudo representation for testing.

That's basically what they did.
 
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