Jayden Okunbor to appeal NRL deregistration for schoolgirl sex scandal

[Tassie Devil]

Well anyone that says the Club or NRL were correct in suspending JO and CHN need a lesson in the law of torts. First year law will tell you that people going about their daily life should act reasonably. Lord Dening in the House of Lords talked of the duty of care owed by the reasonable man...the man on the Clapham omnibus. No more no less.
How is this relevant? The facts in this case are that the girl WAS NOT attending the training session. The players owed a duty of care to the participants but NOT to other members of the community who could of been present. The girl...a member of the community and another girl from the community approached the players seeking sexual gratification.
In this day and age of social media young women are sexual predators.
While the Club may not of wanted the players to indulge females in the community on this trip did they inform the players of this wish? Even if they did, is this wish realistic given the freedoms fought so hard to protect by our servicemen and women in the past?
JO and CHN need to be reinstated immediately, otherwise the Club may as well start arranging the marriages for the entire playing group because obviously players contracted to Clubs in the NRL have no right to decide who and when they sleep with a woman in the community otherwise.

The Governor has spoken ...

In all seriousness, who really knows? Not one of us is privy to all of the information from this case so we're all just speculating. Time will tell whether it was the correct decision or not.

Think your post will get a few bites though so well done ....

 

[Riggs80]

Personally if I was JO & CHN I would await outcome of what occurs with JAC & LM since their incidents have occurred so close to to their own and use the basis of the expected lower penalties dished out as basis of taking NRL / dogs to court.

 

[Superuber]

Honestly don't care. Think people on here get way too caught up with what's happening at other clubs and what other players are doing. I couldn't give two shits.

Shouldn't you make this comment in a general thread though? I don't really see how it's connected to JO in the slightest .... People will connect your comments to comparing 'crimes' and punishments again ... and we both know what happened last time when you said you never intended that.

Just saying like

We all know that the two incidents are different in the case of one not being criminal and the other one is so this time it is about comparing crimes and punishment and not peoples moral judgment. The players were fined $1000 each by police and are looking at firearm charges which carry large fines and prison sentences of about 2 years, I'm sure conduct such as this would constitute breaches of the CODE OF CONDUCT in many employment contracts.

The below is in my contract
If you are charged or convicted with a serious criminal offence, whether or not it is related to work, you must immediately notify your manager. You may be suspended from duty pending the outcome of disciplinary or legal proceedings .A serious criminal offence means an offence committed in New South Wales that is punishable by imprisonment for six months or more.

So any offence committed is breaching code of conduct and an offence punishable by imprisonment of 6 months or more is classified as serious.

This is what was said by Peter V'Landys

The players will be afforded due process and natural justice,” V’landys said. “However this is a serious matter.”

He refused to comment when asked if the players would be suspended.

Earlier the NRL issued a statement to say their behaviour was ‘unacceptable.’

The incident has created doubts about the ability of NRL players to adhere to the strict protocols the NRL is putting in place for a training resumption next week and a return to playing on May 28



JO and CHN potentially cost the Club $2M however this could derail the restart of the game if the authorities have doubts about players complying

 

[Phalangist]

Ado Carr is a great footballer but do we need a bloke that potentially could give us some bad press

Yes we do because we are not winning anything with mr Nice guy tolmans around!!

 

[Bazildog]

The incident has created doubts about the ability of NRL players to adhere to the strict protocols the NRL is putting in place for a training resumption next week and a return to playing on May 28

Now we have Nathan Cleary as well, but it should not be a surprise to anyone.

350 “footballers” to be trusted in isolation for 20 weeks with no outside contact or socialising...

 

[Bazildog]

Yes we do because we are not winning anything with mr Nice guy tolmans around!!

I don’t think we need a team of angels but we certainly don’t need fuckwits. Especially ones that reach straight for the racial card when things don’t go their way..

 

[LFC Bulldogs]

Okunbor is dead average. Couldn't car less if he appeals and wins, as long as he doesn't come back to us. The NRL did us a favour freeing him up from our books.
Lets start signing/developing quality players and raise the bar again to what it was before this fucking nightmare we are experiencing the past 3-4 years .

 

[The_Chimpster]

Yes we do because we are not winning anything with mr Nice guy tolmans around!!

For some reason, this came immediately to mind after reading your post

 

[Bazildog]

So all four players get off with just a fine..

Yep, that V’landys is tough and a good operator...

What a fucking joke.

 

[DogsOfWar1704]

Has there been any news on when chn and okunbors appeals will go through?

 

[dogluva]

Whether I believe the virus is real or not for starters..? Forget the 2 dickheads that many on here said we should sign that yet again have thumbed their nose at the rules and everyone else.

Seriously, if anyone is about to start a conspiracy theory on here that the virus is bogus etc blah blah.. FMD

Oh, and the excuses offered for what they did is “It was a cultural gathering,” he said. “Learning about our land and our culture, learning how to hunt, live off the land.”

Really?

Yes, motorbikes and firearms are an integral part of the indigenous culture.....as is gathering around the camp fire and sinking a few tinnies plus breaking a raft od laws and government directions ...as you said " Really?"

 

[Bazildog]

Yes, motorbikes and firearms are an integral part of the indigenous culture.....as is gathering around the camp fire and sinking a few tinnies plus breaking a raft od laws and government directions ...as you said " Really?"

Exactly, but don’t mention that too loudly or you will be labelled racist..

 

[dogluva]

Exactly, but don’t mention that too loudly or you will be labelled racist..

Its funny that some indigenous have said things along these lines already. I have some really great friends who are indigenous and they are pretty much over some of their 'brothers' continually using this as an excuse.

 

[CaptainJackson]

The only ones bringing in the racism angle are the idiots who are falsely accusing this incident of playing into racism.

Latrell hasn't brought up racism neither has ado Carr but the ones who want them to stay in their place and be quiet are already trying to triviliaze racism by making an absurd link to this event.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

The only ones bringing in the racism angle are the idiots who are falsely accusing this incident of playing into racism.

Latrell hasn't brought up racism neither has ado Carr but the ones who want them to stay in their place and be quiet are already trying to triviliaze racism by making an absurd link to this event.

Nope, Latrell is playing the race card.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Nope, Latrell is playing the race card.

Link

By all means provide it

I found it.

That's not racism. Fucking dumb **** trivializing racism that way. That's what gives the knuckle draggers ammunition you POS latrell.

 

[CrittaMagic69]

Link

By all means provide it

I found it.

That's not racism. Fucking dumb c*** trivializing racism that way. That's what gives the knuckle draggers ammunition you POS latrell.

Latrell is a dumb ****, kids ego is out of control.

 

[CaptainJackson]

Latrell is a dumb c***, kids ego is out of control.

Yep severely.

There's people who've fought tooth and nail to defeat racism and this fuckwit in a moment dismantles progress to save his own hide.

 

[Cook]

So all four players get off with just a fine..

Yep, that V’landys is tough and a good operator...

What a fucking joke.

He doesn’t bow to media pressure, which makes him tough. I tend to agree with these punishments. It just highlights more how fucked our players got. But that was I’m guessing more a Greenburg decision. On the back of intense media pressure. The media will always come after us for some reason.

 

[Superuber]

Exactly, but don’t mention that too loudly or you will be labelled racist..

I’m sure every race indulges in exactly same activities so it’s more likely Humanist not racist