Fox Sports Jack Wighton Rumours

[GA45]

Loyalty is dead isn’t it. Canberra have stuck by this kid and now after 14 years he just heads off.

Good pickup by Souths

 

[Robbothedestroyer]

Canberra is a shite hole and being coached by Stuart would be wearing thin they need a refresh. Has done well to last 14 years.

 

[Cook]

Hopefully it backfires somehow. A lot of money tied up in backs, can Someone with more knowledge than me post there likely line up next year.

 

[Robbothedestroyer]

What a surprise Stuart and the raiders are having a bitch about wighton leaving for supposedly less money. He can chose to move for reasons other than the size of his pay packet eg more likely to win a premiership, had enough of Stuart, get out of the Canberra shite hole.
Plenty of players choose to stay at their clubs for the exact same reasons when chased by basket case clubs. No doubt most players wouldn’t think about moving to the tigers even if paid a shite load more.
If the challenge gets any traction legal blood suckers will surely hit vlandys and crew with restraint of trade.

 

[Kempsey Dog]

Raiders should sign Jaemon Salmon, heard he's a pretty handy 6 haha

 

[D.O.W.]

Grew up a bulldogs fan, but that doesnt count for much these days its all about the coin and 3rd party deals. Would add some mongrel and fear into our pack, something we have lacked for probably 20 years. But he wont leave South, they are becoming the new roosters

This kid can play anywhere in the forwards and it’s all controlled aggression -The fact he was a Doggies fan is a bonus. A must target after this signing news, would not be surprised if we threw a bone his way

 

[BELMORE]

Welcome to the bulldogs Sele and Kolomatangi

 

[D.O.W.]

Welcome to the bulldogs Sele and Kolomatangi

That would be amazing and I’m sure Gus will enquire about these men

 

[Reecek89]

Welcome to the bulldogs Sele and Kolomatangi

We can only hope

 

[boggie23]

This kid can play anywhere in the forwards and it’s all controlled aggression -The fact he was a Doggies fan is a bonus. A must target after this signing news, would not be surprised if we threw a bone his way

I’d take him any day of the week and twice on Sunday’s. A forward every team needs.

 

[Eesma]

You were all a bunch of morons, wasting your time hypothesising where Wighton was going to sign. This FB post from 1970 made it VERY clear that his decision was made 5 decades ago.

 

[Como Dog]

This is the perception that has been created by the way the article was written, it might be false.

I have to remind myself that Hooper and his mates at Fox love Sticky so they will probably make Jack look shit in the process.

End of the day if he wants to live in Syd and leave Canberra then he should have the freedom to do that.

This is why players need either a points valuation or a notional contract value allocated to them and then whatever is physically paid to a player becomes irrelevant. Helps stop Union poaching as well.

 

[Como Dog]

Is the idea that the NRL sets the player's minimum market value? Or the player's maximum market value?

Personally I can't see the RLPA ever agreeing to either. No way a maximum would be acceptable, a rather blatant illegal restraint of trade limiting how much every individual player can earn. The minimum is troublesome too, for example if a player has lived all his life in say Nth Qld (or NZ), has all of his family and friends there, owns a house there, kids go to school there, why shouldn't he be allowed to accept less to stay there?


Always a Bulldog

They just have to set a notional value rather than a limit to what they earn. That becomes the amount placed against that team's salary cap. Then the players can go out and earn whatever they can get whether it be via contract, declared TPAs or the 'unaffiliated' TPAs.

 

[Jackson_1994]

Welcome to the bulldogs Sele and Kolomatangi

Koloamatangi sister is with the club maybe she could convince him hahaha

 

[TwinTurbo]

They just have to set a notional value rather than a limit to what they earn. That becomes the amount placed against that team's salary cap. Then the players can go out and earn whatever they can get whether it be via contract, declared TPAs or the 'unaffiliated' TPAs.

Who sets this “notional value”? For all 510 contracted players? The NRL? Hahahahaha.

So it would be ok for a club to contract a player for $1m even if the NRL values him at $500k. We could have teams with players notional value of $10m actually getting paid $20m. If, say, a player was valued at $500k and 3 clubs wanted him they would just keep outbidding each other. The player‘s manager knows that multiple clubs want him so he starts an auction, highest bidder gets him. There is no penalty for the clubs overpaying, since it’s always only $500k on their Cap.

Defeats the 2 purposes of the Salary Cap, doesn’t spread the player pool and doesn’t stop clubs overspending and going broke. It would be good for us, we have plenty of money, and the Chooks and Souffs but the not so well off clubs couldn’t afford to compete in the bidding war.

The RLPA would never go for it, players that the NRL “over values” would never get a gig. Who’s going to have $500k on their Cap for a player that they are only paying $300k. No one will want “over valued” players, there would be an endless stream of players wanting their notional values lowered so they can get a contract.


Always a Bulldog

 

[TwinTurbo]

This is why players need either a points valuation or a notional contract value allocated to them and then whatever is physically paid to a player becomes irrelevant. Helps stop Union poaching as well.

How does player points or notional value stop Union offering them more money? Most NRL clubs don’t have “unlimited” funds, sure the rich clubs like us, Chooks, Souffs etc could afford to bid against Union but most clubs simply don’t have the money. The rich clubs keep the players and the not so rich clubs lose them, just makes the gap bigger.


Always a Bulldog

 

[Como Dog]

Who sets this “notional value”? For all 510 contracted players? The NRL? Hahahahaha.

So it would be ok for a club to contract a player for $1m even if the NRL values him at $500k. We could have teams with players notional value of $10m actually getting paid $20m. If, say, a player was valued at $500k and 3 clubs wanted him they would just keep outbidding each other. The player‘s manager knows that multiple clubs want him so he starts an auction, highest bidder gets him. There is no penalty for the clubs overpaying, since it’s always only $500k on their Cap.

Defeats the 2 purposes of the Salary Cap, doesn’t spread the player pool and doesn’t stop clubs overspending and going broke. It would be good for us, we have plenty of money, and the Chooks and Souffs but the not so well off clubs couldn’t afford to compete in the bidding war.

The RLPA would never go for it, players that the NRL “over values” would never get a gig. Who’s going to have $500k on their Cap for a player that they are only paying $300k. No one will want “over valued” players, there would be an endless stream of players wanting their notional values lowered so they can get a contract.


Always a Bulldog

How does it stop the spread of talent? Teams still can't exceed a cap value that just happens to be based on the notional values rather than the actual contract/TPA values. They would also still have to sign a Top 30 or similar.

Clubs need to be responsible and accountable for their spending. If they financially mismanage then heavy sanctions can be imposed on them as a punishment and also a deterrent.

I don't know why the RLPA would have a problem with players having the opportunity to potentially earn more 'real' money. Teams would still need to have a minimum number of players in their squads so that's just natural competition for places amongst players. At the other end of the scale, even if that $500k valued player had no offers at 500k, because clubs still have real money and budgets to be managed, the player might sign for $400k but the cap reflects the $500k of the player and the $400k is still above an actual minimum contract rate.

No longer will clubs be joining the Rorters just because of their amazing culture and other teams can compete with them.

 

[nassman]

Cam Murray to rugby, Wighton to play lock and get an upgraded deal.

That's my prediction

 

[Como Dog]

Cam Murray to rugby, Wighton to play lock and get an upgraded deal.

That's my prediction

Hadn't considered that maybe they already know more than the rest of us re Murray.

 

[Papa Joe]

Cam Murray to rugby, Wighton to play lock and get an upgraded deal.

That's my prediction

Hadn't considered that maybe they already know more than the rest of us re Murray.

My prediction is that Jack will play Left Edge Second Row to fill their biggest weakness in the team & I think he will kill it.

No having to worry about kicking or organising, Just run hard lines hitting holes with throwing the occasional out ball every now & then.
He'll handle the D with no problem.