Fox Sports Jack Wighton Rumours

[ILiveForDib]

My prediction is he stays at the raiders. And the media has gone a bit cray. Souths are fine at the back.
They need a kiraz on the wing and a big black prop and they are contenders. Not centres. Graham and Tass is fly.

A big black prop

 

[OldDogFan]

Nasheed here,
As a lawyer, the hood lawyer,
everythang you just said there is not right.

Restriction of trade means you cannot step in and artificially restrict an option to a player.
The employee can then prove that there is an
obligation imposed on him which prevents him from earning or limiting
his ability to earn a living at his chosen occupation (or club) yo.
Hence why Terry Hill swat down the draft, they made him go against he will.

If a player wants to go play for unders he can.

Same with u dawg, if you want to live in (your area) and earn 80k a year, whereas Dubbo says they want u to work with them for 110k a year, that is your choice yo.
There is a (most likely court contestable) extreme situation where you cant sign for like 100k if u is 1 million, like what happened to my boi Izzy, but every player has a right to take a slight paycut to go play with their brothers.

Restriction of trade doesnt mean you cant use friendship to recruit. That is business 101. You is trying to conflate it with some twisted form of insider trading.

Souths run a tight ship its what i always say.
Never underestimate how mivh black people want to play together, they racist as hell.

The point is, if there is a million dollar player do you really think that they would go to team X for $500,000 because they want to be with their bro's... bullsh!t. It's because there is another $500,000+ in TPA's or tax free brown paper bags involved and Team X only has to show $500,000 against their salary cap.

 

[wendog33]

Nah it all sounds legit to me.

A million or so for a player on his last contract isn't that much money to sacrifice. It happens all the time.

He's doing it for love of the game, his mates and the chance to win a premiership because souths are winning them all the time lately.

Nothing to see, move right along

He has ambitions to become Australia's Van Damme. Crowe can help with that.

 

[piggy]

This is collusion and a restriction of trade for Raiders and Dolphins (and whoever else wants to sign him).

If Raiders offer is his market value, that has to be his price set. Raiders should have the ability to set his market value if thats what they are prepared to offer him.

Souths are using personal relationships he has with players (collusion) to entice him to sign a deal worth a lot less than his market value. This is essentially a restriction of trade.

Souths should be expected to pay his market value.

Until the NRL set a market value on each player this will keep on happening...... apparaently south have offered him 900k for 2 years and ithen 1.1m per year for the next 2 years after which they will be able to afford once codey walker os off their books and other players

 

[Chrisaaar]

Until the NRL set a market value on each player this will keep on happening...... apparaently south have offered him 900k for 2 years and ithen 1.1m per year for the next 2 years after which they will be able to afford once codey walker os off their books and other players

I thought they did introduce that? and secondly, we all know that when those last 2 years are about to come up, he's going to medically retire from 'head knocks' and have his full wage paid out.

 

[ChesoBulldog]

Until the NRL set a market value on each player this will keep on happening...... apparaently south have offered him 900k for 2 years and ithen 1.1m per year for the next 2 years after which they will be able to afford once codey walker os off their books and other players

It would make sense the nrl set market value if they have a salary cap.

 

[pillow]

As much as I don’t want anything to go souffs way and better their team, the milk offering him 1.1m a season shouldn’t be considered market value. It’s the same as us having to pay overs for players to come to the dogs because we’ve been shit, the milk have to pay overs to get players to live in the berra. Wighton isn’t a million a year player, regardless of what position he plays in my opinion.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Until the NRL set a market value on each player this will keep on happening..

Is the idea that the NRL sets the player's minimum market value? Or the player's maximum market value?

Personally I can't see the RLPA ever agreeing to either. No way a maximum would be acceptable, a rather blatant illegal restraint of trade limiting how much every individual player can earn. The minimum is troublesome too, for example if a player has lived all his life in say Nth Qld (or NZ), has all of his family and friends there, owns a house there, kids go to school there, why shouldn't he be allowed to accept less to stay there?


Always a Bulldog

 

[ChesoBulldog]

As much as I don’t want anything to go souffs way and better their team, the milk offering him 1.1m a season shouldn’t be considered market value. It’s the same as us having to pay overs for players to come to the dogs because we’ve been shit, the milk have to pay overs to get players to live in the berra. Wighton isn’t a million a year player, regardless of what position he plays in my opinion.

It would work both ways. Clubs like Tigers, previously Dogs, always had to pay overs and this meant they had to lose promising players in the process which in practice made them worse off, even though on paper is seemed like it would make them better.

The other option would be to create a luxury tax and a trade window. So in Raiders case, if Souths want Jack, they can have him now but Raiders can then get a young player or 2 back in a trade.

It's unfair for Raiders now because they lose a player they've created from nothing. It's unfair for the Souths young players who will now have their spot taken by a player who has agreed to sign for less than their worth - their careers now might be over.

 

[ChesoBulldog]

Is the idea that the NRL sets the player's minimum market value? Or the player's maximum market value?

Personally I can't see the RLPA ever agreeing to either. No way a maximum would be acceptable, a rather blatant illegal restraint of trade limiting how much every individual player can earn. The minimum is troublesome too, for example if a player has lived all his life in say Nth Qld (or NZ), has all of his family and friends there, owns a house there, kids go to school there, why shouldn't he be allowed to accept less to stay there?


Always a Bulldog

Minimum.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Minimum.

Who in the NRL is it that determines the minimum contract value of 30 x 17 = 510 players? What if the NRL get's it wrong, sorry, of course that never happens.

Seriously how much media driven warfare between clubs and fans is their going to be over player values. There is never ending bitching now over guessed contract values, I can't imagine the outcry over published minimums. Why is X player valued at $50k less than Y player?

What happens if a player is valued at, say, $500k and the one club that can fit him into their Cap only has $400k available? Sorry mate, you're out of a job, go lay bricks instead. You could always try Union or the ESL.

What happens if the NRL (whoever it is) determines a players value at say $400k (the Top 30 average) and they are willing to accept $390k because it will mean staying in the Nth Qld local area with family and friends, in a house that he owns? For $10k he's expected to move to, say, Melbourne where he knows no one, can't afford to buy a house, would have to pay more than $10k in rent, rent that he didn't have to pay in Nth Qld. Although the contract value is higher he effectively earns less.

There are far too many variables involved in determining how much a player is "worth" and it changes constantly. Today they might be worth half to a team and tomorrow they might be worth double to another team.


Always a Bulldog

 

[speedy2460]

Lots of reasons to go to Souths.
One is he wants to win a premiership. That wont happen at Canberra for a very long time.
He doesnt want to live in Canberra. Cant blame him there.
He doesnt want to be coached by Stuart.
He wants to be part of the Koori group.
He has been offered more money. Cant argue with that.

 

[ChesoBulldog]

Who in the NRL is it that determines the minimum contract value of 30 x 17 = 510 players? What if the NRL get's it wrong, sorry, of course that never happens.

Seriously how much media driven warfare between clubs and fans is their going to be over player values. There is never ending bitching now over guessed contract values, I can't imagine the outcry over published minimums. Why is X player valued at $50k less than Y player?

What happens if a player is valued at, say, $500k and the one club that can fit him into their Cap only has $400k available? Sorry mate, you're out of a job, go lay bricks instead. You could always try Union or the ESL.

What happens if the NRL (whoever it is) determines a players value at say $400k (the Top 30 average) and they are willing to accept $390k because it will mean staying in the Nth Qld local area with family and friends, in a house that he owns? For $10k he's expected to move to, say, Melbourne where he knows no one, can't afford to buy a house, would have to pay more than $10k in rent, rent that he didn't have to pay in Nth Qld. Although the contract value is higher he effectively earns less.

There are far too many variables involved in determining how much a player is "worth" and it changes constantly. Today they might be worth half to a team and tomorrow they might be worth double to another team.


Always a Bulldog

Do you roll over after you’ve stuffed an escort and tell her about your life goals?? Relax. There’s variables in everything in life.

 

[Marki]

Until the NRL set a market value on each player this will keep on happening...... apparaently south have offered him 900k for 2 years and ithen 1.1m per year for the next 2 years after which they will be able to afford once codey walker os off their books and other players

That's called backloading which I thought the NRL made illegal....

 

[CQDog]

Joining South Sydney to play fucking centre on less coin offered. Dumbass

 

[underdogsontop2246]

WOW! Croker, Rapana and Wighton gone like that...

Raider fans won't be clapping anymore

 

[Heckler]

WOW! Croker, Rapana and Wighton gone like that...

Raider fans won't be clapping anymore

Good, now theres room for Kyle.

 

[Cheng]

WOW! Croker, Rapana and Wighton gone like that...

Raider fans won't be clapping anymore

Where's Croker and Rapana going

 

[craigo]

Where's Croker and Rapana going

Both have been told they aren’t in the books for next season. I think that’ll change now

 

[Bulldog1966]

Rapana and Croker done anyway?
Why he went to Souffs idk probably because of his pal Trell smfh...better chance of winning a comp too though.