Opinion It’s Time Someone Returned Serve …

[wendog33]

Watched him play a q cup game the other night @KLil found a game on Kayo and put me into it.

He’s a big bugger for a centre, moves well and good hands, and as that article says he’s a metre eater …

Straight into the 30, interesting to see what their plans are for him ..

Where?
Eventually frontrow?

 

[1967]

Where?
Eventually frontrow?

He’s been playing as a centre ..

 

[Bulldogsteve]

Watched him play a q cup game the other night @KLil found a game on Kayo and put me into it.

He’s a big bugger for a centre, moves well and good hands, and as that article says he’s a metre eater …

Straight into the 30, interesting to see what their plans are for him ..

Must be looking at edge

 

[The DoggFather]

YES … this thread IS a return serve to the Gould/Khoury/Warburton/Ciraldo post that “wasn’t whinging” but went onto be one big misinformed whinge” …

@04 Dreaming / Flanagun is carrying on about a job that in Gould/Khoury/Warburton/Ciraldo time is still in its infancy … it’s like whinging at your builder and saying he’s doing a crap job when only the slabs been poured.

Fans often argue whether Gould should receive the accolades for the Panthers success, the answer there lays in what’s often forgotten ..

People forget he originally left the Panthers in 94 and moved over to the Roosters who were a perennial bottom of the table team.

Before Gould joined, the Roosters had only played finals footy once since 83.

Gould did what he does best, he bought in good people around him and set about rebuilding that club from the bottom up.

Is it a coincidence that Gould joined in 95 and the Roosters became a consistent semi-finals team from 1996 onwards, making the Grand Final in 2000, and then the club went on to win a Premiership in 2002, their first in 27 years and have gone on to have long term success and win another 3 since ?

In May 2011 he took up the General Manager role at the Panthers, not just another struggling club, but apparently one that was also going broke … again he bought in good people around him and set about rebuilding that club from the bottom up, whether he was still there for the GF wins or not is irrelevant, the results of the years of work he put in there are B2B premierships 2021 & 2022.

To do a massive job successfully once, you might say ok … but twice !!! …… maybe it’s time to say this bloke knows what he’s F***** doing …

If you think everything along the way was going to be sunshine and roses and he wasn’t going to make any mistakes then you must live in Bikini Bottom (sponge bobs fictional world) …… because life’s full of making mistakes, especially at the top … it’s how you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and whether you learn from those mistakes that makes the difference ..

APPOINTMENT OF CLUB DICTATOR WITH ALMOST FULL CONTROL OVER KEY DECISIONS WITHIN THE FOOTBALL DEPARTMENT ..
The Roosters did the same … I don’t think they’ve ever been out of finals footy since and they’ve won 4 premierships since that decision ..

The Panthers made the same decision, I don’t think they’ve been out of finals footy since and they’ve won 2 premierships since and maybe the 1st to do 3 in a row since whenever.

APPOINTMENT OF AN INEXPERIENCED/UNPROVEN HEAD COACH.
Gould did the same with Ricky Stuart at the Roosters and the result was a premiership.
Cleary was sacked in 2015 for just avoiding the spoon, not a premiership winning coach obviously, he’s now gone on to win 2 premierships and the story’s not over.

OVERSPENDING, WHO THEY’RE PURCHASING BLAH BLAH BLAH
One of the many reasons they’ve bought Gould in, is to sort that shit out and get it right, look at the work he put in at Roosters & Panthers, it takes time to rebuild an elite top of the table 1st grade squad, luck in having the right players available at a certain time plays a big part in it .. the point is it takes time if you want to build for long term success, which if you look at Roosters and Panthers that’s Gould’s trade mark, LONG TERM SUCCESS.

You crapped on about forwards and a 7 and don’t even mention that since Gould came on board we’ve had to compete in a market where a 17th team has just been introduced, a new club who had a full salary cap available to them to outbid us for players we may have been chasing.

What 7 and forwards would you have suggested Gould get ? … rush in and make another Napa & Flanagan mistake ? …

Gould has said it many times, to get back to the top after being down the bottom for many years is going to require a lot of patience, especially when you consider there’s another 8 or so clubs all trying to do the same thing, and compete in the same market, the key is development and time.

So put your hate away and just back your team each week and allow Gould and the club the time to do what they do best ..

Also I didn’t touch on Goulds first 5 seasons as a coach, that his teams were involved in 3 grand finals and he won 2 of those, or that he’s the most successful Origin coach ever .. I didn’t go into depth on that because a lot on TK members don’t like to read anything that takes them over a minute or 2 …

Return serve?

That's game, set and match bro!

 

[chihuahua dog]

I reckon they are bro. And a few others. ***** with multiple accounts have too much time on their hands. What kind of lame **** could pretend to be multiple people

Hahaha some people's idea of fun is logging onto a fan forum and having conversations with themselves. I've always wondered if old mate nasheed is logged on Chrome and uses Firefox to be love machine.

 

[Sauce Head]

Great movie bro.

Yup

 

[wendog33]

He’s been playing as a centre ..

Yes but we have a few already. Transitioning to forwards eventually maybe?

 

[Chris Harding]

YES … this thread IS a return serve to the Gould/Khoury/Warburton/Ciraldo post that “wasn’t whinging” but went onto be one big misinformed whinge” …

@04 Dreaming / Flanagun is carrying on about a job that in Gould/Khoury/Warburton/Ciraldo time is still in its infancy … it’s like whinging at your builder and saying he’s doing a crap job when only the slabs been poured.

Fans often argue whether Gould should receive the accolades for the Panthers success, the answer there lays in what’s often forgotten ..

People forget he originally left the Panthers in 94 and moved over to the Roosters who were a perennial bottom of the table team.

Before Gould joined, the Roosters had only played finals footy once since 83.

Gould did what he does best, he bought in good people around him and set about rebuilding that club from the bottom up.

Is it a coincidence that Gould joined in 95 and the Roosters became a consistent semi-finals team from 1996 onwards, making the Grand Final in 2000, and then the club went on to win a Premiership in 2002, their first in 27 years and have gone on to have long term success and win another 3 since ?

In May 2011 he took up the General Manager role at the Panthers, not just another struggling club, but apparently one that was also going broke … again he bought in good people around him and set about rebuilding that club from the bottom up, whether he was still there for the GF wins or not is irrelevant, the results of the years of work he put in there are B2B premierships 2021 & 2022.

To do a massive job successfully once, you might say ok … but twice !!! …… maybe it’s time to say this bloke knows what he’s F***** doing …

If you think everything along the way was going to be sunshine and roses and he wasn’t going to make any mistakes then you must live in Bikini Bottom (sponge bobs fictional world) …… because life’s full of making mistakes, especially at the top … it’s how you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and whether you learn from those mistakes that makes the difference ..

APPOINTMENT OF CLUB DICTATOR WITH ALMOST FULL CONTROL OVER KEY DECISIONS WITHIN THE FOOTBALL DEPARTMENT ..
The Roosters did the same … I don’t think they’ve ever been out of finals footy since and they’ve won 4 premierships since that decision ..

The Panthers made the same decision, I don’t think they’ve been out of finals footy since and they’ve won 2 premierships since and maybe the 1st to do 3 in a row since whenever.

APPOINTMENT OF AN INEXPERIENCED/UNPROVEN HEAD COACH.
Gould did the same with Ricky Stuart at the Roosters and the result was a premiership.
Cleary was sacked in 2015 for just avoiding the spoon, not a premiership winning coach obviously, he’s now gone on to win 2 premierships and the story’s not over.

OVERSPENDING, WHO THEY’RE PURCHASING BLAH BLAH BLAH
One of the many reasons they’ve bought Gould in, is to sort that shit out and get it right, look at the work he put in at Roosters & Panthers, it takes time to rebuild an elite top of the table 1st grade squad, luck in having the right players available at a certain time plays a big part in it .. the point is it takes time if you want to build for long term success, which if you look at Roosters and Panthers that’s Gould’s trade mark, LONG TERM SUCCESS.

You crapped on about forwards and a 7 and don’t even mention that since Gould came on board we’ve had to compete in a market where a 17th team has just been introduced, a new club who had a full salary cap available to them to outbid us for players we may have been chasing.

What 7 and forwards would you have suggested Gould get ? … rush in and make another Napa & Flanagan mistake ? …

Gould has said it many times, to get back to the top after being down the bottom for many years is going to require a lot of patience, especially when you consider there’s another 8 or so clubs all trying to do the same thing, and compete in the same market, the key is development and time.

So put your hate away and just back your team each week and allow Gould and the club the time to do what they do best ..

Also I didn’t touch on Goulds first 5 seasons as a coach, that his teams were involved in 3 grand finals and he won 2 of those, or that he’s the most successful Origin coach ever .. I didn’t go into depth on that because a lot on TK members don’t like to read anything that takes them over a minute or 2 …

Well said, and an enjoyable read.

 

[MasterP]

Are these posters all the same?
@Flanagun
@04 Dreaming
@Nasheed

Easy...Get rid of them!

 

[Scoooby]

Just crazy. They play good cop: bad cop lol

Just to stir up the place and cause havoc.

Strange lengths to have to go just to stir it up.. all I have to do, is say PHINS UP and change my avatar to the dolphin logo.. that caused a little stir hahaha !!!

 

[Doogie]

So if Gould should get the accolades - should he also wear the failures (like no mention of the Warriors in all of this)?

 

[wendog33]

Strange lengths to have to go just to stir it up.. all I have to do, is say PHINS UP and change my avatar to the dolphin logo.. that caused a little stir hahaha !!!

It was a shock I tell ya to have our reliable biggest fan as a Phin.

Glad you got back on board Scoobs

 

[Nate DAWG]

Hahaha some people's idea of fun is logging onto a fan forum and having conversations with themselves. I've always wondered if old mate nasheed is logged on Chrome and uses Firefox to be love machine.

Nasheed and Lovemachine are 100% the one person

 

[The DoggFather]

So if Gould should get the accolades - should he also wear the failures (like no mention of the Warriors in all of this)?

100% he should, like all bosses. Ready to take the back slaps but fuck ups are always someone else's fault.

 

[Dogs Of War]

So if Gould should get the accolades - should he also wear the failures (like no mention of the Warriors in all of this)?

He never got to start his warriors gig properly. It really ended up being a consultant gig over video.

 

[Doogie]

He never got to start his warriors gig properly. It really ended up being a consultant gig over video.

Hmmm - he accepted that job mid-CVD - what else was it ever going to be?

Or the Dragqueens? They got shafted too.

Happy to have Gus but this knob polishing is a bit much. Let him produce some results first and then maybe give him a polish.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Hmmm - he accepted that job mid-CVD - what else was it ever going to be?

Or the Dragqueens? They got shafted too.

Happy to have Gus but this knob polishing is a bit much. Let him produce some results first and then maybe give him a polish.

He won a comp at the dogs. He has done very well wherever he has been.

Dragons was a review of the coaching. Dragons are just lost in the front office. So they didn’t take his advice.

 

[Doogie]

He won a comp at the dogs. He has done very well wherever he has been.

Dragons was a review of the coaching. Dragons are just lost in the front office. So they didn’t take his advice.

So you're saying coz he won a premiership with the Dogs 30+ years ago, did well with the salary cap sombreros and the biggest junior nursery in RL he's done well wherever he has been. Sure. Penrith won something when Gus left but that was due to Gus apparently, despite not making the finals most years he was there.

As I said before- happy he's here but if you think he's some sort of football dream maker - you are kidding. Bennett and Bellamy did far better than Gus as a coach and as a football administrator his only can claim is the Roosters. I'm hopeful we see some positive results from him and the positivity across the club is good at the moment but I'm waiting till I see us playing finals footy again before I'm taking the rod.

Results driven game mate. We have none yet. End of story.

 

[The DoggFather]

So you're saying coz he won a premiership with the Dogs 30+ years ago, did well with the salary cap sombreros and the biggest junior nursery in RL he's done well wherever he has been. Sure. Penrith won something when Gus left but that was due to Gus apparently, despite not making the finals most years he was there.

As I said before- happy he's here but if you think he's some sort of football dream maker - you are kidding. Bennett and Bellamy did far better than Gus as a coach and as a football administrator his only can claim is the Roosters. I'm hopeful we see some positive results from him and the positivity across the club is good at the moment but I'm waiting till I see us playing finals footy again before I'm taking the rod.

Results driven game mate. We have none yet. End of story.

This is one thing I hate about TK, if you dont suck someone off unconditionally, you're a "hater".

 

[Doogie]

This is one thing I hate about TK, if you dont suck someone off unconditionally, you're a "hater".

But if you don't suck them conditionally?

Actually don't need to know that....