Is the world better than it was in 1821?

[Noeasyday]

I dare say that the process would be to get us hooked on their favours then withold those favours until we surrendered to their demands.

Sounds like marriage, surely no bloke would fall for that twice?

 

[KambahOne]

quick question, if you could somehow choose to live now or 200 years ago in 1821, which would you prefer?

you dont have to pick australia you can live somewhere else in the world, but the point is you have pretty much none of the current luxuries that people take for granted

for example in 1821 if you wanted to watch some porn you actually need to sneak up to a window and watch people have sex, thats putting yourself in all sorts of danger of being caught etc

Interesting question and it would depend. I'm assuming you're talking about being in that time knowing what you know from this time and it that's the case, you would be a god in 1821. The power you would have to alter history completely, the industries you could create or the predictions you could make. Your prodigy would rule the world.

 

[Blue_boost]

I think late 90s and early 2000's were the best time. Before everyone got so sensitive, you could make a joke and people don't get offended ... Go out all night and your antics wouldn't be on Facebook next morning.

 

[Alan79]

Interesting question and it would depend. I'm assuming you're talking about being in that time knowing what you know from this time and it that's the case, you would be a god in 1821. The power you would have to alter history completely, the industries you could create or the predictions you could make. Your prodigy would rule the world.

My contribution would probably only be good for song writing based on my current knowledge if I'm honest maybe a little bit of archaeology from the documentaries I've seen. If I had a month to study up in advance of jumping back to 1821 that might change and my present day descendents might be billionaires from my commercial success. But going back today probably wouldn't be massively beneficial to me.

 

[KambahOne]

My contribution would probably only be good for song writing based on my current knowledge if I'm honest maybe a little bit of archaeology from the documentaries I've seen. If I had a month to study up in advance of jumping back to 1821 that might change and my present day descendents might be billionaires from my commercial success. But going back today probably wouldn't be massively beneficial to me.

Being a student of history the world would be a vastly different place if I appeared in 1821. Rugba Leeg would be the world game (although lol@souffs would not exist). Champagne would be outlawed. People would have micro solar panels surgically implanted into their scalps. Genetic manipulation would make women addicted to men's jism. AI would be common place. The list goes on.

 

[CroydonDog]

You've jumped straight to one of my largest points of conjecture by recognising that porn wasn't freely available back then. To be honest, even 20 years ago porn wasn't as freely available. It actually makes me wonder where the next stages of technology will take us in regards to porn.

While there are some things that would be good about 1821, such as being able to go fishing when there were plenty of fish to be caught, the big downside would be that there could be a huge disparity in circumstances. If you were born into a really poor family it'd be very hard to ever get anywhere in life. I've seen photos of the staff of the local newspaper from where I live from 100 or so years ago. The manager was dressed very well while his employees were dressed in pretty shabby clothes and couldn't even afford shoes. I like to go barefoot around the house, but I'll be buggered if I'd want that to be something I had no choice in.

So anyway. Since Porn crept into this thread in post one. Where do people see the evolution of it going?

Hopefully this still step-sister/father/mother/son/daughter/brother phase ends soon.

 

[CroydonDog]

Small pox, polio, hairy women, no ability to actually travel anywhere in under 6 months?

No thanks.

 

[Alan79]

Hopefully this still step-sister/father/mother/son/daughter/brother phase ends soon.

It's just lazy story writing. A Mcguffin of sorts that places the partners in the house together with no need to think of a reason to be there.

 

[CroydonDog]

It's just lazy story writing. A Mcguffin of sorts that places the partners in the house together with no need to think of a reason to be there.

See, why do we bother with storylines in 2021? Why not a chick is at home, some dude or chick knocks on the door and says "lets fuck".

 

[Alan79]

See, why do we bother with storylines in 2021? Why not a chick is at home, some dude or chick knocks on the door and says "lets fuck".

I don't know. Maybe there are porn writers living with the illusion that they'll eventually make it in Hollywood. But I don't hear people talking up porn because of the storyline. You'd think that given the hook up apps nowadays they'd use that as a development crutch rather than the premise that you'll wind up with a Brady bunch type of scenario leading to porn.

 

[Rodzilla]

Small pox, polio, hairy women, no ability to actually travel anywhere in under 6 months?

No thanks.

finally some sense

even going back in time trying to invent things is not going to work out

"ok lets try making a television, its a box that shows video of things"

"that sounds interesting, how do we do this?"

"ffs i have no idea"

 

[Alan79]

finally some sense

even going back in time trying to invent things is not going to work out

"ok lets try making a television, its a box that shows video of things"

"that sounds interesting, how do we do this?"

"ffs i have no idea"

The key would be to make a small fortune first. From there you could invest in things that others will make that you know will succeed. Basically what Thomas Eddison did without having any knowledge about how things would take off.

In theory it'd be like owning a bread factory prior to the days when pre slicing it was common. The sceptics would say things like why invest in a slicing machine? Is the world about to go through a knife shortage? You'd say something like sliced bread will be the best invention since steel arrowheads.

 

[wendog33]

That is a pretty scary thought. Seen a documentary about kids with porn addictions. I recall that a 12 year old was finding ways to access porn that'd really warp them on any device they could access in their home. So it's a real problem. But even when I was a pre teen kids would often find a parents dirty mags and bring them to school. But I guess nowadays thats far outweighed by the idea that hardcore fetish type of things might be readily available if parents aren't vigilant and tech savvy enough to put age restrictions on phines or PC's.

I have a friend works in childcare and says they are are seeing some very concerning behaviour.

Like 4 yo boys trying to simulate sex in the playground and simulating adult male masturbation techniques.

It's become a problem for them and, of course, with aggressive parents who won't hear a word of warning about their kids behaviour, the teachers can't discuss with the parents and have to keep a careful supervisory eye out ...not just for falling injuries and the like and now sexual interference from their playmates

At seminars they are saying that these parents are letting the kids watch the porn with them and thats how they are apparently picking up this behaviour.

How sad that children that young are being introduced and exposed.

 

[CroydonDog]

I have a friend works in childcare and says they are are seeing some very concerning behaviour.

Like 4 yo boys trying to simulate sex in the playground and simulating adult male masturbation techniques.

It's become a problem for them and, of course, with aggressive parents who won't hear a word of warning about their kids behaviour, the teachers can't discuss with the parents and have to keep a careful supervisory eye out ...not just for falling injuries and the like and now sexual interference from their playmates

At seminars they are saying that these parents are letting the kids watch the porn with them and thats how they are apparently picking up this behaviour.

How sad that children that young are being introduced and exposed.

Blimey. I was embarrassed enough yesterday when my almost 3yo rolled his eyes at his educator. I assume he must have seen me do it.

I think some parents don't think their kid will notice much of that they watch, and I used to be like that when my boy was around 18 months old and I would watch Peaky Blinders with him on my lap, but I have really started to clamp down on what he sees on TV etc as he has started impersonating a power ranger...

(on the topic of porn, i can comfortably say I've never exposed my children to it, but I do see how easy it is to access and how much it can occupy our time if you let it. I've made a real resolution this year to watch a lot less).

 

[N4TE]

I have a friend works in childcare and says they are are seeing some very concerning behaviour.

Like 4 yo boys trying to simulate sex in the playground and simulating adult male masturbation techniques.

It's become a problem for them and, of course, with aggressive parents who won't hear a word of warning about their kids behaviour, the teachers can't discuss with the parents and have to keep a careful supervisory eye out ...not just for falling injuries and the like and now sexual interference from their playmates

At seminars they are saying that these parents are letting the kids watch the porn with them and thats how they are apparently picking up this behaviour.

How sad that children that young are being introduced and exposed.

Yep my missus is a primary school teacher of special needs children and she has stories of the same stuff. Kids need to be kids this is disturbing if they are getting exposed to stuff like that..

 

[Blue_boost]

If you go back to 1821, you won't get Baywatch it's pre Baywatch.

 

[wendog33]

Blimey. I was embarrassed enough yesterday when my almost 3yo rolled his eyes at his educator. I assume he must have seen me do it.

I think some parents don't think their kid will notice much of that they watch, and I used to be like that when my boy was around 18 months old and I would watch Peaky Blinders with him on my lap, but I have really started to clamp down on what he sees on TV etc as he has started impersonating a power ranger...

(on the topic of porn, i can comfortably say I've never exposed my children to it, but I do see how easy it is to access and how much it can occupy our time if you let it. I've made a real resolution this year to watch a lot less).

Don't let them watch the news either.

These little people are full on sponges for information and visual stimulation already without the added sensorary overload of the negative in our present life.

We dont realise it but all this has a negative impact on children and it's amazing how aware they are of what is happening around them and they are worried about it.

 

[Flanagun]

They would have never had to change the name of Coon cheese to appease the PC brigade in 1821..... things were definitely better back then....

 

[SPEARTAKVIDREFS]

1821, Hmm, no penicillin. If your poor your poor. Imagine going to a dentist., if you could afford one.
Entertainment would be pretty much non existent. I mean the drumkit hadnt even been invented yet.

Still, Byron Bay would have been sweet.
Alot more species of animals on the planet, could of actually seen a Tassie tiger.

And if you hated your life well I think the average joe wouldnt live long. I remember checking out headstones from the early 1900's in Beachworth, people didnt live to a ripe old age.

In some ways I think we live in the most important time on the planet for human beings. The tail end of an analogue world seeing to a star trek future.
At the same time looking to the future is kinda of scary.

 

[CroydonDog]

Don't let them watch the news either.

These little people are full on sponges for information and visual stimulation already without the added sensorary overload of the negative in our present life.

We dont realise it but all this has a negative impact on children and it's amazing how aware they are of what is happening around them and they are worried about it.

Ha! I wish I could watch the news. I try to do that, and I get protests until I change it over to ABC Kids. Bloody Bluey.